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ffxfriek post=18.75110.859801 said:
PedroSteckecilo post=18.75110.859775 said:
I'm a moderate at heart, so no McCain love from me, he's too radical. And Sarah Palin can *comment omitted since I don't want to offend any women that aren't Sarah Palin*

again radical on which/all of his ideas please explain
Pedro Steckecilo, while in favor of more conservative economics is...

Pro Gay
Pro Abortion
Pro Socialized Health Care
Pro Business Regulation
Anti-Religious
Anti-Gun
Anti-War
Anti-War on Terror.

Edit: Pedro also hates Sarah Palin, a lot.
 

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ffxfriek post=18.75110.859829 said:
Lets ask Joe the Plumber how Obama would help....er destroy his soon business if Obama is elected.....
I guessed you missed the repeated assurances that Obama's plan WOULD NOT hurt small buisnesses. That it is specifically designed to HELP small buisness. That in fact Joe the Plumber won't be affected at all?
 

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Limos post=18.75110.859845 said:
ffxfriek post=18.75110.859829 said:
Lets ask Joe the Plumber how Obama would help....er destroy his soon business if Obama is elected.....
I guessed you missed the repeated assurances that Obama's plan WOULD NOT hurt small buisnesses. That it is specifically designed to HELP small buisness. That in fact Joe the Plumber won't be affected at all?
he wants to buy the business obviously you missed that part.....
 

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PedroSteckecilo post=18.75110.859841 said:
ffxfriek post=18.75110.859801 said:
PedroSteckecilo post=18.75110.859775 said:
I'm a moderate at heart, so no McCain love from me, he's too radical. And Sarah Palin can *comment omitted since I don't want to offend any women that aren't Sarah Palin*

again radical on which/all of his ideas please explain
Pedro Steckecilo, while in favor of more conservative economics is...

Pro Gay
Pro Abortion
Pro Socialized Health Care
Pro Business Regulation
Anti-Religious
Anti-Gun
Anti-War
Anti-War on Terror.

Edit: Pedro also hates Sarah Palin, a lot.

thanks for clarifying
 

PedroSteckecilo

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ffxfriek post=18.75110.859829 said:
Lets ask Joe the Plumber how Obama would help....er destroy his soon business if Obama is elected.....
Lets not forget that Joe Plumber is unlicensed and doesn't pay all his taxes anyway.
 

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First of all there are plenty of good politicians in Chicago, Dick Durbin, Pat Quinn, several council members, and don't forget that Harold Washington came from the Chicago machine.
Secondly, how is Palin qualified? I don't want to hear an attack on Obama in response to this. As some one who supports McCain Palin please explain this to me. I'm not trying to put her down I'm honestly confused. Before McCain chose her I had difficult decision to make on the 4th, now not so much.
Now Barack has less experience but he does have more credibility. I believe the global community would trust Obama more. (nytimes did a story awhile back couldn't find link, but just ask someone from overseas) McCain appears to be 4 more years of Bush. Even if they disagree on many issues they are still of the same party.
And lastly, I don't understand why people think Obama will end the war. Sending troops from Iraq to Afghanistan wont be cheaper, safer or better.
 

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photog212 post=18.75110.859892 said:
First of all there are plenty of good politicians in Chicago, Dick Durbin, Pat Quinn, several council members, and don't forget that Harold Washington came from the Chicago machine.
Secondly, how is Palin qualified? I don't want to hear an attack on Obama in response to this. As some one who supports McCain Palin please explain this to me. I'm not trying to put her down I'm honestly confused. Before McCain chose her I had difficult decision to make on the 4th, now not so much.
Now Barack has less experience but he does have more credibility. I believe the global community would trust Obama more. (nytimes did a story awhile back couldn't find link, but just ask someone from overseas) McCain appears to be 4 more years of Bush. Even if they disagree on many issues they are still of the same party.
And lastly, I don't understand why people think Obama will end the war. Sending troops from Iraq to Afghanistan wont be cheaper, safer or better.
dont forget at the first debate hes going to attack pakistan too....thats pure stupidity for saying that out loud on national/world wide tv...and you also need congress approval...which he wouldnt have...he also said the surge isnt working...yet hed put more troops in afghanistan to squish al quieda there too???

EDIT: and McCain was never a full fledged democrat or republican so hes more of an independent if you search his votes in congress....so im not sure why hes the republican but whatever....
 

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ffxfriek post=18.75110.859903 said:
photog212 post=18.75110.859892 said:
First of all there are plenty of good politicians in Chicago, Dick Durbin, Pat Quinn, several council members, and don't forget that Harold Washington came from the Chicago machine.
Secondly, how is Palin qualified? I don't want to hear an attack on Obama in response to this. As some one who supports McCain Palin please explain this to me. I'm not trying to put her down I'm honestly confused. Before McCain chose her I had difficult decision to make on the 4th, now not so much.
Now Barack has less experience but he does have more credibility. I believe the global community would trust Obama more. (nytimes did a story awhile back couldn't find link, but just ask someone from overseas) McCain appears to be 4 more years of Bush. Even if they disagree on many issues they are still of the same party.
And lastly, I don't understand why people think Obama will end the war. Sending troops from Iraq to Afghanistan wont be cheaper, safer or better.
dont forget at the first debate hes going to attack pakistan too....thats pure stupidity for saying that out loud on national/world wide tv...and you also need congress approval...which he wouldnt have...he also said the surge isnt working...yet hed put more troops in afghanistan to squish al quieda there too???

EDIT: and McCain was never a full fledged democrat or republican so hes more of an independent if you search his votes in congress....so im not sure why hes the republican but whatever....
Except with his choice of the Ultra-Republican Sarah Palin he's now doomed himself to the radical camp. He clearly wanted to mobilize the Republican Base, so now, he's as good as republican.
 

photog212

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not what I was referencing but pretty close
http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/article.aspx?RsrcID=35428
 

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photog212 post=18.75110.859936 said:
not what I was referencing but pretty close
http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/article.aspx?RsrcID=35428
you do realize why don't you? He will negotiate face to face with people who wont want to talk......
 

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Palin also said comments about invading Pakistan.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jxdRiHs0huSO2qb_uiwdR45pH2fAD93GNQT80
And blaming the media, I'm sorry but if she can't handle Katie Couric how can I trust her to handle Putin and Ahmadinajhad.
 

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photog212 post=18.75110.859966 said:
Palin also said comments about invading Pakistan.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jxdRiHs0huSO2qb_uiwdR45pH2fAD93GNQT80
And blaming the media, I'm sorry but if she can't handle Katie Couric how can I trust her to handle Putin and Ahmadinajhad.
did ya read the article? it says attack terrorist hideouts...not an all out war with pakistan.......
 

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OverlordSteve post=18.75110.859993 said:
TheNecroswanson post=18.75110.857637 said:
Obama is young,
The man is 47 since when is that young?
hes young in the sense of being in the actual senate house working for only 145+ days? please correct me if im wrong
 

photog212

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We should be negotiating. What ever happened to speaking softly and carrying a big stick? These countries, groups, militias, etc are not children that you can just send to bed without dinner. The US has lost a lot of respect because we refuse to respect other countries, even those we disagree with. Dr Bernard Lown was a huge advocate of this during the cold war. http://www.bernardlown.org/rx-home.html
And before that it was negotiations with the feared Russian communists that ended with victory against Nazi Germany. (I went a bit off topic)
 

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OverlordSteve post=18.75110.859993 said:
TheNecroswanson post=18.75110.857637 said:
Obama is young,
The man is 47, since when is that young?
Compared to most presidents, that's pretty young. Only Bill Clinton and JFK were younger when they first ran. And Teddy Roosevelt was like 42(?) when he took office I believe.

Oh, and I don't even think McCain is voting for McCain anymore.
 

photog212

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And the Vietnam war was against communist Guerrilla hideouts and not an all out war against Vietnam, whats your point
 

ffxfriek

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photog212 post=18.75110.860040 said:
And the Vietnam war was against communist Guerrilla hideouts and not an all out war against Vietnam, whats your point
that is just what it says....in the article you gave me which was a super point for the republicans...we do need to get rid of terrorist hideouts...but when we can afford it better....
 

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I didn't mean to imply that Al Qaeda in Pakistan was a horrible idea. If we have the support of Pakistan, which will require negotiations. You brought up Obama's comment on Pakistan I posted the article about Palin's comment on Pakistan. Maybe I'm not giving you enough credit, but I've just argued with so many people who will say so and so said this while their candidate says the same thing. That was my point. Is that both sides have said the same thing. And that attacking terrorist strongholds is war. I think its time we stop putting pretty bows on ugly things.