Modern Warfare 2 boycott huge Success

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TsunamiWombat

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1. MW2's PC multiplayer is actually pretty damn good.

2. PC users have already hacked the game and found a way to support Servers.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Modern-Warfare-2-Gets-Dedicated-Servers-Workaround-127188.shtml
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First, Infinity Ward and its IWNet said that MW2 would be a lot safer and less frequented by cheaters to ruin the game. That was obviously debunked right from the get-go, and it was more of an ego statement from the community than anything else. But now, the other thing its own developers took away from Modern Warfare 2 is given back by the gamers, for the gamers. With some workarounds, tricks and fiddling with the title, AgentGOD has managed to unlock for it the closest thing to a dedicated server a game could have. Basically, what he managed to do was find where the developer console was locked away in the software's code and make it available to everyone.

What this means is that, now, players can have full control over a server and not be bound by IW and its IWNet-imposed policy. The video that was released on the net depicts a massive session of fun on a MW2 server with unlimited ammo, altered gravity and an XP boost that appears to be registered by IWNet as perfectly legit. What may seem like cheats to some of the less experienced players, are actually server options, as they give all the gamers an equal playing field with the same abilities. The settings are master for the server, so they immediately apply to every user that joins.

This ?dedicated server? workaround was depicted in this manner because it's very explicit, but, most of all, because it's fun. Something that games are supposed to be about and something that, apparently, Infinity Ward forgot about. Now, if the community managed to solve the player cap of 18 for the PC version of the title as well, then we could truly say that the biggest game in history received the biggest community support ever recorded
 

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Aitruis said:
I always love listening to the people who got angry about the dedicated server drop, because so many of these people apparently missed reading one of the major reasons why they were dropped: overhead. They were dropped because in the current economy, they were going to be too costly to keep running. Yes, it sucks, but if the company has a choice between keeping them and bankrupting or not, and not, then more power to them.

I love talking to the boycotters and then derailing their entire arguement by asking them, "So wait, you're angry because the company refuses to bankrupt itself for your convenience?"

And watch their heads explode.
You've probably already read the rebuttals to your bullshit here, but if you actually took the time to read anything on the subject you would have noticed that the client system IW developed for the PC was actually a 'significant investment' - they spent a ton of cash producing a controlling, slow, unnecessary, unwanted system in place that has served to DRASTICALLY reduce PC sales and cripple PC multiplayer on the game. PC sales are what, 3% to 13% of the total if numbers here are to be believed. I know for a fact that I would have bought it if the damn multiplayer hadn't been neutered, and I'm sure world-wide sales would have been remarkably better balanced between the platforms as well. But IW screwed us, and it is reflected in the sales.

The next time you rag on about economics actually find out what the hell you're on about. Did you know that some games companies rent out their servers to interested parties - clans and the like - thus generating a continuous revenue stream? Whereas with the system as it is now, all the matchmaking and all that jazz has to go through IW's servers, which noone else is paying for to maintain. So suck on them economic apples.
 

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silverbullet1989 said:
Which is unfair as it was the PC GAMERS who made cod what it is :mad: this is what a lot of the anger stems from.
True, but as we all know in this harsh cruel world or corporate gaming, loyalty means nothing, sales mean everything.

danpascooch said:
COD, and casual? really? wow
You sir(?), owe me a new sarcasm detector. I was pointing out the obvious, again, via saying why it didn't and why indeed a boycott of this nature would never, ever work.

toapat said:
sms_117b said:
Haha, knew it wouldn't, I mean a lot of CoD's fan base are casual gamers who don't care about the PC's problems as they're console gamers.

As for me, I just brought it for my PS3
/kills sms_117b from internal hemorrhaging in his own mind.

Console+gamer-negetive comment inbetween=grammatical error. Consoles can not have gamers. they can only have players.
Why are they console users players not gamers? Pong for the home was technically on a console first, the NES was and is a console and I think they might call themselves gamers (2/5 times elitist gamers but gamers none the less), I'm a gamer with a custom gaming PC (albeit in need of a complete overhaul) and I happily play on my PS3, I'm a gamer regardless of platform.
 

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ItsAPaul said:
I'm never going to understand what the appeal of fps games are...
I'm never going to understand the appeal of "war sims" (Call of Duty, Medal of Honor etc.). There are a few FPS's that I've enjoyed, like Metroid Prime, but I fail to see the attraction of this.
 

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If people wanted to boycott it AND play it, why not just pirate it? By taking some (Illegal) action rather than sulking like a whiny girl, people would make more of a hit. Perhaps still not substantial enough to make activision hop out of their baths full of money to check how much money they're losing to pirates, but it would undeniably be more of a hit.

And I mean, people say "I'm boycotting it for X reason, and I don't like it."

That isn't a boycott. That's not buying the game. I'm not boycotting Assassin's creed just because I Havn't bought it. A boycott, or a protest, has to have more positive and assertive ACTION rather than just sitting around whinging on forums, or nothing will ever get done.

For those who are interested, I'm a PC/360 gamer, and have a copy of MW2 for both. They have distinctive and different feels of play to them, and i'm looking forward to an eventual fix to this rut that is the dedicated server battle. The only reason IW and Activision haven't included dedicated servers is to stop Piracy, but evidently that just hasn't worked either.
 

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To everyone questioning "why would anyone try to do a boycott" let's take a rhetorical situation.

What would you do if MW3 developers had been hacking and deleting any review sites that review the game poorly, ran a market for their game's own hacks in the background, actually MURDERED people to avoid lawsuits, sued everyone who ever posts a video for the game over copyright, has a bug that can red-ring your Xbox, etc, etc. But MW3 gets great reviews! YAY! And anyone who doesn't buy it is a FREAKING WHINER

Trust me. There HAS to be something that would piss you off enough. Maybe your tolerance level is much better than ours, but sooner or later you gotta look at your options. Make them realize they work for us, and we don't live off them. Otherwise, don't ever expect anything to change.
 

JakCurse

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This is my point; If you are boycotting a game, you must still have some desire to play the game, hence undertaking personal hardship to prove your disgust/annoyance.

But why not take that a step further, and actually negatively impact their sales? Piracy; you get a copy of the game you want to play, you can still maintain the moral high ground, as you didn't pay for it, showing it isn't worth your money. I don't see why this is still such an abhorrant idea, it's pushing protest to the next level.
 

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I don't know the total MW2 PC sales, but apparently in the UK, it sold a grand total of 57,000 as of 11/16/09. That is 3% of all the MW2 sold in the UK. So no, I don't think very many people are going back on their boycott.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/easy-victory-for-modern-warfare-2-in-uk-charts
 

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I knew it was too good to be true. Its not like I want to boycott cod but I thought infinity ward was getting weak so I decided to help it by posting on this forum.(terrible idea I know)
 

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It seemed to turn out a lot better than I expected; my best mate bought it and said the SP was brilliant, and has a fuckload of fun with the multiplayer. Just as this is true, A LOT of people were also pretty disappointed with it

I am yet to get it, $$$$$$$$$$$$
 

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sms_117b said:
Why are they console users players not gamers? Pong for the home was technically on a console first, the NES was and is a console and I think they might call themselves gamers (2/5 times elitist gamers but gamers none the less), I'm a gamer with a custom gaming PC (albeit in need of a complete overhaul) and I happily play on my PS3, I'm a gamer regardless of platform.
because SC64 was unplayable

Starcraft is the only game which you can call yourself a gamer while playing, and only if you rank in the top 100 of the ladder
 

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When the contards are playing "Modern FPS #864: This Time With A New Gun" they can look back on this and see why.
 

Katana314

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JakCurse said:
But why not take that a step further, and actually negatively impact their sales? Piracy; you get a copy of the game you want to play, you can still maintain the moral high ground, as you didn't pay for it, showing it isn't worth your money. I don't see why this is still such an abhorrant idea, it's pushing protest to the next level.
It is an abhorrant idea, and I wish for everyone to stop. Piracy is its own statistic, and it is singularly blamed as a reason not to develop for the PC, often singled out from issues like lack of X support.

If 60 million people "get" a game through legal or otherwise methods, it sends the message that the game is great. But if 80% of them are pirates, they just think "Oh. We need stronger DRM."

If 3,000 people get a game in total, then it sends a message "Oh shit. Our game sucks! What do people not like?" They will then open their web browser upon which the Google logo will have morphed into the words "YOU, AT XYZ GAMES; YOU FAILED AT WIDESCREEN SUPPORT"
 

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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=227204?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=CVG-News-RSS

This prety much sums up the whole situation; and puts it all into perspective.


I was really looking forward to COD6. The only saving grace is that they released the info early enough to save alot of PC gamers and me 60 bucks. I highly doubt even NOW that was intentional since Activision has done little in the way of showing any remorse or lack of greed over the situation.

Whats really scary is that soo many PC gamers have bought the damn game and even now lie to them selves by saying "oh, its not that bad... I can get used to it..."

The outrage has boiled down now to complacency

One more Nail in the PC gamer coffin.

... with EA I'm sure watching from the side lines waiting to see if activision can make a profit.
 

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MatParker116 said:
Alright, now ask yourself how much of that money came from PC gamers.
Ask yourself why there were hacks, mods, and rampant piracy for both the PC and the Xbox 360 within two days of launch.
Find at least three PC gamers who honestly thought this game was worth it.

Go ahead, I'll be waiting.
myself, my friend, and most probably one of my other friends who are planning to buy the game once exams are over.

so yeah. that pretty much sums it up.
 

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Noname55 said:
When the contards are playing "Modern FPS #864: This Time With A New Gun" they can look back on this and see why.
I know you're new here but platform bashing is not appreciated by most escapists. Using words like 'contard' makes you look like a troll.
 

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miracleofsound said:
Noname55 said:
When the contards are playing "Modern FPS #864: This Time With A New Gun" they can look back on this and see why.
I know you're new here but platform bashing is not appreciated by most escapists. Using words like 'contard' makes you look like a troll.
To be clear, I'm not referring to every console gamer, just those that purchased Modern Warfare 2.
 

Katana314

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Dude, I'm a PC gamer, and I honestly have zero issue with console owners buying MW2: from the looks of it the 360 and PS3 versions of the game are flawless, save for a kinda-short singleplayer.
 

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Katana314 said:
Dude, I'm a PC gamer, and I honestly have zero issue with console owners buying MW2: from the looks of it the 360 and PS3 versions of the game are flawless, save for a kinda-short singleplayer.
Buying the same thing over and over hurts gaming as a whole, it will not stay contained to consoles forever.