Modern Warfare 2 - why it makes people angry. Read if you've ever played the game.
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Ugh Gears, I love you, but the shit you put me through drives me up the goddamn wall.Conqueror Kenny said:
If you're playing a game that's especially mismatched connection wise, ALL of the hosts weapons are more powerful. I had the pleasure of hosting a match and downing a guy who was at full health with a grand total of FOUR shots from a hammerburst. He was about to burst a blood vessel after that match.
This is convenient since I'm doing a school project on "Being polite online" and I'm playing MW2 because of this (borrowed the game from a friend).
Ironically, I'm still yelling in frustration despite my project title. The game punishes you for going in things fast and head first by being the first to get killed, but punishes you for slowing down and/or staying still since someone is going to sneak up behind you and kill you or a kill streak reward will.
While Bad Company 2 may also frustrate me, it is WAY less frustrating than MW2. BC2 promotes much more teamwork and effectively balances (most) of the weapons. Snipers (except for one) are not one hit kills, you need to work together to rig the com-station to explode, and because you can spawn on a squad member it allows you to be more coordinated in your attacks. The delayed spawning system is also great so you can clear your head and BC2 lets you run through the map a bit without worry of dieing and then when you finally get to the match you feel like you've actually done more than just die, spawn, die, spawn, etc...
MW2 does not do any of that, it just plops you anywhere on the map and you can die in two seconds, only to respawn a second later and get killed 5 seconds after. Every second you're just going "I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die...."
But meh, most of the reasons why I don't play multiplayer games as often as I feel like I should is because they eventually just bore me. It's always the same objective, over and over, the same map, over and over, the same weapons, over and over, the same perks, over and over, the same....well you get the idea. If I ever make a multiplayer game I'm going to at least make randomized maps to an extent. Not fully randomized, but certain aspects of it will be different from play to play.
Blah de blah, case in point, MW2 is just a really frustrating multiplayer game with a pitiful excuse for a singleplayer campaign.
Ironically, I'm still yelling in frustration despite my project title. The game punishes you for going in things fast and head first by being the first to get killed, but punishes you for slowing down and/or staying still since someone is going to sneak up behind you and kill you or a kill streak reward will.
While Bad Company 2 may also frustrate me, it is WAY less frustrating than MW2. BC2 promotes much more teamwork and effectively balances (most) of the weapons. Snipers (except for one) are not one hit kills, you need to work together to rig the com-station to explode, and because you can spawn on a squad member it allows you to be more coordinated in your attacks. The delayed spawning system is also great so you can clear your head and BC2 lets you run through the map a bit without worry of dieing and then when you finally get to the match you feel like you've actually done more than just die, spawn, die, spawn, etc...
MW2 does not do any of that, it just plops you anywhere on the map and you can die in two seconds, only to respawn a second later and get killed 5 seconds after. Every second you're just going "I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die...."
But meh, most of the reasons why I don't play multiplayer games as often as I feel like I should is because they eventually just bore me. It's always the same objective, over and over, the same map, over and over, the same weapons, over and over, the same perks, over and over, the same....well you get the idea. If I ever make a multiplayer game I'm going to at least make randomized maps to an extent. Not fully randomized, but certain aspects of it will be different from play to play.
Blah de blah, case in point, MW2 is just a really frustrating multiplayer game with a pitiful excuse for a singleplayer campaign.
It's interesting you point this out. For a while there I got pretty good in MW2, I was able to come first in games, always had the most Domination points captured and usually had the highest KJumplion said:
spead in Team Deathmatch.But no matter how well I was doing it was not fun. Because in MW2 your good work can be fucked up at any moment by a bad spawn, stupid team-mate, random explosion, Chopper Gunner, Pred Missile... so it's this constant nervous energy going that I somehow mistook for fun.
The 'I'm gonna die I'm gonna die' thing you said is interesting too. When I do well and come first in a MW2 game I don't feel elated, I just feel a kind of anxious nervous relief. Compare that to Bad Company 2 or COD4 where most of the time if you destroy the other team you know you did it with skill, and if you died miserably you know it's because you fucked up (not including Martyrdom of course...)
It's really annoying because you're always expecting to die in MW2, wheras in BC2 even if you're getting a huge killstreak you're thinking "man I'm awesome!"MiracleOfSound said:It's interesting you point this out. For a while there I got pretty good in MW2, I was able to come first in games, always had the most Domination points captured and usually had the highest KJumplion said:
But no matter how well I was doing it was not fun. Because in MW2 your good work can be fucked up at any moment by a bad spawn, stupid team-mate, random explosion, Chopper Gunner, Pred Missile... so it's this constant nervous energy going that I somehow mistook for fun.
The 'I'm gonna die I'm gonna die' thing you said is interesting too. When I do well and come first in a MW2 game I don't feel elated, I just feel a kind of anxious nervous relief. Compare that to Bad Company 2 or COD4 where most of the time if you destroy the other team you know you did it with skill, and if you died miserably you know it's because you fucked up (not including Martyrdom of course...)
With BC2, whenever I was sniping (which was a lot, I was kick ass at sniping. Gravity FTW!) even if I missed half of my enemies or only hit them once, I was never really frustrated even after I died. I knew that every bullet missed is an improvement overall towards not a bullet missed. With MW2, you can aim right at someone, but for all you know they could be right up against you.
If people like MW2, that's fine, I really don't care. I enjoyed BC2 way more than I did MW2, though I ended up stopping because, like all multiplayer games, I eventually got bored of doing the same thing again and again. But there's a fine line between fast paced and hectic and down-right too chaotic.
Indeed. And your gameplan in BC2 isn't fucked up by your dumb team-mates as easily as they can do it in MW2. (they still try though, damn them...)Jumplion said:
Yep. There's a difference between action packed and a complete clusterfuck. I kinda got bored of them both too. Went back to single player for a while.... so much calmer experience.Jumplion said:
Is it still broken?John Stalvern said:
I played Gears 2 online 2 or 3 times and I just thought it was fucking awful to be honest.... so clunky and slow and awkward feeling.
Honestly, I'd take MW2 over Gears of War any day.
I've watched some videos of MW2 and its interesting...
I've watched several different players using the knife to teleport across the map, I mean like go through walls, its visceral and looks fucking awesome but if I was on the receiving end I'd foam at the mouth.
Also why don't the guns have recoil?, there's no recoil and two bullets kill.
I've watched several different players using the knife to teleport across the map, I mean like go through walls, its visceral and looks fucking awesome but if I was on the receiving end I'd foam at the mouth.
Also why don't the guns have recoil?, there's no recoil and two bullets kill.
Too fucking true. Those are the reasons I've stopped playing MW2. I may occasionally play a few matches, but the moment I start getting frustrated with these issues, I eject the disc.
I agree with everything else you have written but this. I contest this with 3 words. Gears of War. No game has a bigger issue with host advantage and lag than Gears of War 2, no game EVER. After 20 odd days of playtime I know this. While it finds you teammates who you connect well to, 95% of the time you get paired with people on the other side of the world to play AGAINST, if you don't get host you will you will either lose or destroy your KD winning. Modern Warfare 2 actually has a half decent matchmaking system these days if I search Team Deathmatch at anytime I will find an Aussie game, and during primetime can generally find a good aussie game on any playlist. It's not great, but it's wicked, awesome, cool compared to Gears 2.MiracleOfSound said:3. Host advantage/lag is a bigger issue than in other games.
He joins a new game, this time on Favela. Good map for rushing, he thinks to himself as he gets out his UMP.
As he comes round a corner he sees a guy facing the opposite direction and opens fire. Almost a full clip of ammo shoots straight into the enemy, who soaks it all up, calmly turns around, aims about 5 feet to his left and blasts him dead with his Akimbo 1887s.
On the killcam our hero watches himself NOT FIRE ONE SHOT.
'FUCK!' he yells. 'That was fucking bullshit! What the fuck!'
'Man, I'm so Pro at this game with my skill-kill Akimbo shotties! I should be a MLG player!'
I've had a few people say this now, and yeah, I remember playing Gears 2 a few times and hating it, thinking it was slow, awkward and broken.LooK iTz Jinjo said:
Is it still not fixed?
4. Too many perks and weapons means things are not balanced
Next he sees a guy sprinting towards him from halfway down the hill...
'Aha!' he thinks. 'Big mistake' and opens fire - but other guy teleports 8 metres in the blink of an eye and knifes our poor hero in the face.
'FUCKING COMMANDO PRICKS! FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING ****!' he yells, and kicks the wall.
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I know this feeling aalll to well; and it ALWAYS gets me mad. But what I feel its starting to get to me is the new mods and changes, in the sense that the Spaz-12 owns now more than ever (if you played you know): all aerial support (all of them) like magic developed flare tactics against stingers. And now a days I switch from hardcore to core and began playing ground War, but the problem is that in the new maps all the people that got them pin you in one side of the map and over power my team... And that happens always no matter what.
So I ask you no matter what list(game mode) you play; does your team get over powered? ( 65-200)
Next he sees a guy sprinting towards him from halfway down the hill...
'Aha!' he thinks. 'Big mistake' and opens fire - but other guy teleports 8 metres in the blink of an eye and knifes our poor hero in the face.
'FUCKING COMMANDO PRICKS! FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING ****!' he yells, and kicks the wall.
I know this feeling aalll to well; and it ALWAYS gets me mad. But what I feel its starting to get to me is the new mods and changes, in the sense that the Spaz-12 owns now more than ever (if you played you know): all aerial support (all of them) like magic developed flare tactics against stingers. And now a days I switch from hardcore to core and began playing ground War, but the problem is that in the new maps all the people that got them pin you in one side of the map and over power my team... And that happens always no matter what.
So I ask you no matter what list(game mode) you play; does your team get over powered? ( 65-200)