Mom microwaves child; Another kills child over broken TV

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Chris646

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Dammit humanity, if my faith in you were determined by a dice roll of a d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, and d20, all of them would have rolled a 1, except the d20, which rolled a 2.
OT: Yeah, these people are horrible. Very, very horrible.
 

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Kopikatsu said:
Blind Sight said:
richardplex said:
Gizmodo said:
Kang Ya, a 29-year-old from Sacramento, has been taken into custody for what police are saying were fatal burns administered to her 6-week-old daughter, via microwave. Happy nightmaring.
Happy nightmaring indeed, this is exactly why I don't watch the news and try to lock myself out of any news from any media. Crap like these stories, and this: http://bit.ly/lsMOE8 make me wish there was a way that people had to register and pass some form of test to have children, sort of like how you need a pass to have a child in china. don't flame me on this, I'm not commenting on whether China's one-child system or its consequences are yay or naye, merely commenting on how the registration to have a child clearly in some manner is possible to do, and should be done o'er here, because quite frankly some people do not have the right to have children
The problem is, who determines the qualifications for being a parent? How possibly corrupt would anyone in that position become?
Not very corrupt at all. The position would be very simple.

The person in question sees the potential parent's criminal record and the results of three psych evaluations taken a few years apart. No names, no ethnicity, nothing.

If the person is fucked up, they get denied. If they aren't fucked up, they don't.
You're oversimplifying a very complex institution that would take a large amount of infrastructure and bureaucracy to be maintained. Firstly, I severely doubt that any government institution would do such checks without filing of names and SINs, it would be impossible to maintain such a system without it. Secondly, the system you mention is still a system where corruption would thrive. You don't think a bureaucrat (or anyone involved with the process, for that matter) would take a bribe to falsify psych evaluations or criminal record checks, especially in a system that is anonymous? Completely unrealistic. Anyone with connections inside this fictional institution would be able to influence it to get a free pass, similar to how high ranking Chinese officials can get away with having multiple children.

Also, opinions on how an individual is 'fucked up' is not an objective notion. By the logic of this institution, my grandfather would have probably been refused due to his criminal record, yet that did not make him a bad parent. You might consider psychological issues and a criminal record as a sign of a bad parent, but others might consider other factors. What about income rates? Or genetic markers for hereditary diseases? These are all elements that would be considered if such a process would be created. Hell, some might even consider smoking to be the sign of a bad parent, due to the exposure to second hand smoke and the possibility that the child will learn from the parent. There is no objective way to determine a bad parent before they've had bloody kids, only guesswork and estimation.

On top of all that, you have the problem of dealing with people who reject this institution and have children regardless. Consider this: an unregistered parent, who has done nothing harmful to their child, is discovered. What should the response be? No response at all is impossible, as it makes the institution powerless. How about removing the child, despite no actual harm occurring? Fines? Maybe even jail time for the parent? Suddenly this 'very simple' institution has spun out of control.

Having a bureaucracy determine what is a good parent is absolute nonsense. It's quite easy to say that in theory it would be simple, but in reality it would be over-bloated and very complex. And that's not even getting into the moral issues of having the government determine whether you can have children...
 

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I just want to run around screaming GAAAH! WHAT THE FUCK! WHAT. THE. FUCK. WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU DO THIS WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!? And then proceed to cause them unbearable pain. Because they deserve it.
 

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just UGH! >< what is with crazy parent these days i thought my parents were bad but this is stupid my prayers will be for the children
 

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I don't even know what to say, except for the obligatory "What is wrong with these sad excuses for people?!"
 

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Just so this isn't low-content:
It's not that this stuff happens more often, it's just that it's better advertised.
 

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Eri said:
Gizmodo said:
Kang Ya, a 29-year-old from Sacramento, has been taken into custody for what police are saying were fatal burns administered to her 6-week-old daughter, via microwave. Happy nightmaring.
http://gizmodo.com/5814366/woman-arrested-for-microwaving-her-baby-to-death
Kotaku said:
A 21-year old Bronx woman has been charged with murder and manslaughter after the death of her five year-old son, killed after he "broke the television while playing Nintendo Wii".

Kim Crawford stands accused of murdering Jamar Johnson after telling police she struck him on the chest and back "harder than I've ever hit him" when told he had broken the family TV set while playing a Wii game.

The incident took place on June 13, yet it took five days of agonizing pain - during which Crawford refused to take her son to the hospital out of fear for what she had done - before the boy succumbed to massive internal injuries and passed away.

New York Police say that the accused has prior arrests for assault and drug use, while officers had been called to the family home nine times since 2006 to attend reports of "domestic incidents" between Crawford and the boy's father.
http://kotaku.com/5814301/mother-accused-of-beating-son-to-death-after-wii-game-breaks-tv

Why must bitches be crazy? I mean, if your kid makes you angry enough to literally want to kill it, you could just, give it up, or I don't know, take some meds? Something.
Appalling, and absolutely unforgivable. I would drag both of them out to the woods and put a bullet in their brain.
 

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...And I just watched Precious last night. Damn you Bronx, for living up to your worst steriotypes.
 

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to quote my mom, "Get out of my sight." Really if your that pissed tell them to leave until you have a chance to cool down. It is not all that hard.

This is disgusting.
 

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And it wasn't even Microwave Monday...
Damn you for making me giggle, now I feel terrible.

Anyway, this is fucking nuts. I think the worst part is that in the first story the mom denies what she has done and in the second the mom didn't want to take consequences for her actions.
You have responsibilites as a parent, as a human being, I wish people would take some fucking responsibility.

Her child died needlessly. It pisses me right off and it disgusts me.
 

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Akin to the monkeys at typewriters analogy, given enough people [say, 6.2 billion for example] some of them will do some really crazy stuff. Others will buckle down and conform. I try to find a happy medium.
 

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So weary of reading this stuff already, I don't know how I'm going to manage to next 60 years (/optimism). I need to see a cat do something adorable, read a life affirming story about selfless act of compassion, watch some MLP:FiM, watch a David Attenborough documentary, and finally get myself a hug. I just need to be reminded there are a vast array of incredible and awesome and beautiful things in life, because this shit is just so senseless and represents how the concept of evil becomes manifest so disturbingly.

To be honest, I think my brain intentionally creates chemical barriers to these memories over time, only retaining the essence of what they are. I stopped being really shocked a long time ago, but I can rarely recall a single act of reprehensible evil or ignorance fueled cruelty (etc etc...).

Anyway, that aforementioned adorable cat awaits my lolololols.
 

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Eri said:
Gizmodo said:
Kang Ya, a 29-year-old from Sacramento, has been taken into custody for what police are saying were fatal burns administered to her 6-week-old daughter, via microwave. Happy nightmaring.
http://kotaku.com/5814301/mother-accused-of-beating-son-to-death-after-wii-game-breaks-tv

Why must bitches be crazy? I mean, if your kid makes you angry enough to literally want to kill it, you could just, give it up, or I don't know, take some meds? Something.
I think I will Quote Tom Waits on this situation and say this.

"What keeps mankind alive!? Bestial Acts and Repressing your Humanity"

Deep down Humanity is one fucked up piece of work that I try and avoid observing too closely otherwise I'd find myself justifying my insanity as well.
Secondly these are both horrible tragedies that should never happen to children, yet did.
Somehow I always find this song appropriate in these kinds of disgusting situation.

Take us home, Tom Waits

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Jonabob87

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Microwaving a child is pure evil, regardless of the situation. Microwaving any living thing is evil, but your own child?

This is the type of person euthanasia should be used for. People who are too unstable and broken to exist along with the rest of us.