Most Obvious Plot Holes (spoilers ahoy!)

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rhyno435

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FargoDog said:
The whole thing with Ethan blacking out and waking up near the murder site of the kids, while holding an origami figure. This is never, ever, explained and stops even being mentioned in the last third of the game.
Didn't he wake up (both times that you saw him) on Carnaby Road (or whatever it's called), the site where Scott's brother drowned (the construction site)?

You are right though, it never explains it, and he never has one again after his son is taken. What's to stop him from having one during one of his trials? My only theory is that they were brought on from his depression and lack of a will to live. Once his son was taken, he had a reason to live, and thus, he stopped having the blackouts. This still doesn't explain the origami or location though.

Also, he says he never did origami in his life, early in the game, but in 2 of the bad endings, there are origami figures all over his room. When would he have time to learn to make them, especially in prison?
 

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Timesplitters: Future Perfect. In a game that otherwise handled time travel brilliantly, I'm still annoyed at the end, where
it changes how time travel works. Before the final jump, time travel was always a stable loop- if you're going to do something in the past, it's already happened in the present. That's the entire basis of Crow's plan, and that's how it works whenever Cortez meets himself in all the levels. Yet after the last level, when you prevent the Timesplitters from ever being created, that somehow changes the future dramatically and stops the war from happening. That's what's called an unstable loop, where events in the past change the present. If the ending was consistent with the rest of the game, Cortez should have done something that actually caused the Timesplitter Wars to happen in the future, because due to the nature of time, they're unpreventable. Would have made a great setup for a sequel, too.

It just bugs me that they kept it as a stable loop all the way up to that point, then changed it with no explanation.
 

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he's psychotic, he constantly makes up different stories for his scars, you're never meant to know how he gets them, it's suppose to be the idea that there is no common sense to anything he does it's all chaos
 

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kickyourass said:
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kickyourass said:
Equilibrium,
He's the very, very best yet he can't go ONE DAY without his proseum? Also, why didn't anyone ever question his obvious emotional reactions (His partner was shot for reading a book, and the Preston character is on the verge of an emotional breakdown for half the movie). Or how did the not find his fingerprints on the guns he used to kill several soldiers without wearing gloves while he used them? Not to mention the obvious 1984 themes, but that's a different discussion al together.

I've really no clue as to why people stand that movie.
"the obvious 1984 themes"?

Where do you think the inspiration for Equilibirum came from?
It's just that it was so blatant, I mean the Matrix used some themes from the Terminator movies but they didn't use almost the entire premise.

Even leaving that aside, the plot holes were so enormous that I'm shocked that people are actually holding it up to the standard of stuff like Alien.
Yeah, I never thought too much on the plot, to me that film is just fun action scene after fun action scene. I didn't know anyone actually took it seriously. That'd be bananas...
 

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The Seldom Seen Kid said:
EDIT: I found a gaming-related one:
If Isaac's wife, from Dead Space, is a product of his imagination: HOW COULD SHE HAVE OPENED A DOOR FOR HIM VIA A COMPUTER NETWORK?!
Everyone already answered the earlier one, so I'll answer this. Basically, Isaac wasn't dreaming of Nicole because he was insane, he dreamt of her because the Marker made him so he'd do what it wants. To that end, it either reanimated a corpse or, far more likely, used a Necromorph and convinced Isaac through its mindfuckery that it was Nicole. The Necromorphs that Isaac fought to "protect" Nicole were just to stop him from getting suspicious.
 

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Any movie or videogame with invisibility. You wouldn't be able to see if you were completely invisible due to the fact that invisibility is light passing through you, and seeing is light being collected inside your eyes (or something like that).
 

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Terminator 3
if the technology for xkynet was COMPLETLY destroid in T2 how can it exist T3?
 
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Johnnyallstar said:
I want to point out the entire plot of CoD:MW2.

Oh, example? Well, the catalyst for the invasion of America is the terrorist attack in a Russian airport where there was one American corpse..... Okay.

To think that Russian security was so lax there that they didn't check the cameras to see who else was involved, or that American intelligencia wouldn't be out there doing a massive CYA job to prevent such an invasion from happening by their fault is lowbrow thinking at its utmost.

The entire plot for Modern Warfare 2 was one big facepalm after another.
And let's not forget that there was also a Russian body. Every time, one of the Russians dies, and every time Makorov yells, "Leave him!" So there was one American body and one Russian body. Cool plot twist at the time (when he shoots you. That surprised me) but it really makes no sense if you think about it for two seconds.

And while we're on FPS's, let's talk briefly about Bad Company 2.

Ok. There is a level in the campaign that takes place in the middle of a fucking desert. Apparently, some boat is in the middle of it. I think when they find that out, one character questions it, but never gets an answer. As if that wasn't bad enough, there happen to be multiple boats in the middle of the desert. AND A MOTHER FUCKING LIGHTHOUSE. And no one even bothers questioning either of those.
 
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Gibbo1489 said:
Modern warfare 2 SPOILERS!

In response to all of the MW2 posts (although the whole story doesn't make a lot of sense) I would say that the major hole is that the attack on the airport even takes place. At the beginning of that mission your boss (the guy who betrays you in the end) tells you how hard it has been to get you secretly into Makarov's group thing and also how much of a total tosser Makarov is (i.e. already known to responsible for acts of genocide e.t.c.) so why don't you just shoot Makarov in the back of the head. I mean assuming you know that the attack is going to happen, and it must be pretty obvious when your rolling up to an airport with enough guns and ammunition to make Stalin blush, then any normal human being and especially a trained soldier would kill Makarov and his mates when the opportunity arose. I mean they don't need any evidence of Makarov doing something bad to order an assassination of him, they already know he's an enemy and this is a prime moment to kill him and save 100s of lives. Didn't make a lot of sense to me.
Because Shepard was in on it. He wanted the attack to take place. The only reason he sent Alan in under cover was so that Makorov would have an American body to leave behind. And Alan is apparently a dumbass who blindly follows orders. (I already discussed why the American body isn't exactly hard evidence)

EDIT: Ugh, double post. Sorry.
 
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paynexkiller said:
*facepalm* over the direction this thread has taken.
I second this. It started as fairly innocent, but now it has become similar to a bunch of nuclear physicists wasting their time arguing over who gets the last micro wave burrito. (or something else equally small and pointless).

Yes, I just referred to the Escapist Community as Nuclear physicists. I regretted it immediately, but it's too late to change it now. My delete key does not work. Also, I am too lazy. And also, this is probably a triple post, so I think I deserve a badge. Or a cockslap. Or a fuzzy new donkey(not that is not a euphemism). Wow, I should go to bed. I am sure am tired. BYE GUYS. *skips away*
 

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Revenge of the Sith. At the end, Anakin has his legs and one of his arms chopped off, he is burned from lava, and was left untreated for at least half an hour. He lives from "medical science" while Padame dies from being choked and from child birth. I just don't get that.
 

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Not technically a plot hole, so much as a "wait . . . what?" moment in Mass Effect 2

Why would the Reapers build a human-form Reaper. Seriously. There's just no logical reason why they would do that. I could imagine that the missing colonists would be needed to provide raw genetic material. I could get that the Reapers are not purely machine, but an amalgam of mechanical and organic material. I could even accept that they would use humans because, as Mordin says, they have the mose genetic diversity of the other main races. But I simply cannot understand why they would make the Reaper as a 20 meter tall homanoid.

There are many advantages to a humanoid frame when you're 5-6 feet tall and live on a temperate planet, but not when your cousins are quite happy as gigantic space-faring squid. It makes no sense.
 

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kickyourass said:
Equilibrium,
He's the very, very best yet he can't go ONE DAY without his proseum? Also, why didn't anyone ever question his obvious emotional reactions (His partner was shot for reading a book, and the Preston character is on the verge of an emotional breakdown for half the movie). Or how did the not find his fingerprints on the guns he used to kill several soldiers without wearing gloves while he used them? Not to mention the obvious 1984 themes, but that's a different discussion al together.

I've really no clue as to why people stand that movie.
I completely agree with you.
 

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Cab00se206 said:
Not technically a plot hole, so much as a "wait . . . what?" moment in Mass Effect 2

Why would the Reapers build a human-form Reaper. Seriously. There's just no logical reason why they would do that. I could imagine that the missing colonists would be needed to provide raw genetic material. I could get that the Reapers are not purely machine, but an amalgam of mechanical and organic material. I could even accept that they would use humans because, as Mordin says, they have the mose genetic diversity of the other main races. But I simply cannot understand why they would make the Reaper as a 20 meter tall homanoid.

There are many advantages to a humanoid frame when you're 5-6 feet tall and live on a temperate planet, but not when your cousins are quite happy as gigantic space-faring squid. It makes no sense.
SPOILERS!
It may well be that they were planning on replacing the Reaper which was destroyed at the end of Mass Effect 1, to improve the ranks. Also, whos to say the Human-Reaper wasn't in an embryonic stage, and couldn't grow to be several kilometres high, like the Cuttlefish shaped reapers. This is the way reapers evolve, by adding new organics to their race, and since the Protheans were found to be not genetically diverse enough they outfitted them with tech to help to collect the next race which was found to be genetically suitable, since the race the Reapers have the current form of is long extinct.
 

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squidbuddy99 said:
There's this one plot hole in Assasins Creed II that really bugs me:
So, after Ezio stops Rodrigo Borgia from getting the Piece of Eden, we fast-foreward a few years in the Animus. Our faithful (if a bit douchy) British friend then suddenly realises that Borgio was a pope. So the expert historian just now realised that the main evil guy and head conspirator was once a POPE? I knew he was a pope from my 10th grade history class!
Not everyone gets taught about religious leaders. I for once, cant dont even know what the last pope was named... Was it Benedict?... Or is that, that new guy who looks somewhat like The Emporer from Starwars?
 

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Litchhunter said:
Urgh76 said:
Kingdom Hearts.

That's it

It's just really fucked up
I'm fairly sure that that game isn't suppost to be taken seriously. I gave up trying to make sense of things Orgainization 13 got pulled into things. At that point I just went "Ok, screw this, just tell me what I'm suppost to hit next."
like why does sora need roxas to live he seemed to functioning quite well with out him, or what the hell is up with Dymnx. Why is in COM his attack is called dark firaga(makes alot more sense) but in kh2 it called dark aura(where dark aura is riku's equivalent of omnislash) why did riku get weaker after COM and lose his birth by sleep armor.
 

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Cab00se206 said:
Not technically a plot hole, so much as a "wait . . . what?" moment in Mass Effect 2

Why would the Reapers build a human-form Reaper. Seriously. There's just no logical reason why they would do that. I could imagine that the missing colonists would be needed to provide raw genetic material. I could get that the Reapers are not purely machine, but an amalgam of mechanical and organic material. I could even accept that they would use humans because, as Mordin says, they have the mose genetic diversity of the other main races. But I simply cannot understand why they would make the Reaper as a 20 meter tall homanoid.

There are many advantages to a humanoid frame when you're 5-6 feet tall and live on a temperate planet, but not when your cousins are quite happy as gigantic space-faring squid. It makes no sense.
They got bored of the squid design? Also, most of the humans upon the citadel and otherwise that had even seen a Reaper before have only seen the squid-shaped model. If a human-looking Reaper was sighted, it'd probably be hard to tell it was actually a Reaper, letting their guards down.

Then again, that's just random speculation. Not entirely sure, myself.
 

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Not G. Ivingname said:
Sonic 06... where do I begin?

1. Silver is against a red, flaming sky in the intro to Sonic's stories, yet he is against a blue one during the same scene in his game.

2. Elise never saw Silver, she was sleeping when he put the flaming demon in her, why did she have that little flashback thing with Silver the first time she saw Sonic if SHE DIDN'T SEE HIM.

3. Did Eggman make two of all his boss robots?

4. At one point in both Sonic's and Shadows stories, they are attacked by the future flame monster thingy. However, they both fight it seperately, without the other being present.

5. Why is Shadow (who is suppose to be FASTER then Sonic) suddenly slow as crap and forced to rely on crappy motorcycles?

6. How did Eggman plan to control the giant monster thingy again?

7. How did Blaze see Silver's premonision or what ever it was? when he saw Sonic?

8. What is everybody from Tails to Omega doing in the city again? Ok, I can understand Tails, Sonic contacted him to help with an Eggman attack, but why has Knuckles so willingly left his Master Emerald gaurd duty?

9. At the end of the game, Elise blows out a candle thing that prevents the entire game's story to cease existing (thank god). Doesn't this create about twelve time Paradoxes?
i never played it but i see your point.

technically sonic is supposed to be faster than shadow but shadow is more powerful than sonic but i have another one for you. if sonic has the ability to use chaos control like shadow how come he doesn't use it regularly. If shadow is so fast why does he have hover skates makes think doesn't it. and if sonic runs so ridiculously fast shouldn't he be able to run on water with out trying to hard since the little fucker is usually running about 150-300 mph
 

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mad825 said:
MattRooney06 said:
mad825 said:
Legion said:
The original Fallout 3 ending:
Forcing the player to die or sacrifice lives even though there were two companions in the game that rendered this completely unnecessary thanks to their immunity to radiation.
That's not even a plot hole, that's really just a moral choice if you wanted to you can send FAWKS (if you have him) to go and activate the purifier...and you don't die
Actually when you ask him too he says somthing like

"this is your fate not mine"

when you ask CHaron (a character who is healed by radiation, and is bound by contract to do whatever you say) he says somthing like

"there are a lot of things i will do for you, this isnt one of them"

either you have to go in, or lyons does
yea...

I remebered that's in the Broken Steel add-on (also because another user reminded me),~I've had the add-on for so long that I have forgotten the original ending
In fact all the teammates give a bs reason to why

The robot says somthing like system error

Clover (YOUR SLAVE!!!!!) says i cant belive your asking me to do that

Butch is funny he says somthing like fuck you we're not that good friends

and dogmeat....dont even get me started on him (her?)