You can't 'end' a thread like this. There's no ultimate bad-guy-wins film. That's just silly.phalanfy said:
Movies where the 'bad guy' wins (spoilers be warned)
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This post doesn't matter. I got mixed up between a book and a film.
Was convinced someone had turned I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream into a film. Turns out I'm wrong.
Was convinced someone had turned I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream into a film. Turns out I'm wrong.
Hold on. Even though he kidnaps the main character and his daughter, I think you've still meant to root for him as the 'doing what's necessary' guy...although it's a bad movie and this may not come across...xxDarlenexx said:
He's still the main antagonist (even though that's not synonymous with "bad guy" in all cases). He's getting in Hugh Jackman's way.carnkhan4 said:
And you can root for the bad guy and still have him be a bad guy. It's fun!
They don't REALLY know if Kaiser Soze exists or just a myth that Verbal Kint used to his advantage. Remember...Kaiser Soze's name wasn't mentioned until the agent asked him who he was. Every other name used during Verbal's story was made up, why not use an old Hungarian super villian to mess with the cops too?Pseudonym2 said:
I admit that there are tiny clues that prove he does exist, but the point is that we really aren't 100% sure.
Dude, that is one messed up film (I saw the original German one not the remake) and I don't think I want to go through that experience again any time soon!Hellion25 said:
Swordfish also a good response, I had totally forgot about that.
Only other one that has come to mind that hasn't been mentioned was Blair Witch Project.
That has to be the greatest summary of Brazil I think I've ever read! Thanks for that; you just made my night.....hypercube said:
The Ninth Gate.
The Descent. Coincidentally also has the 'Brazil' ending but way more downbeat.
Angel Heart.
Keyser Soze does win in the Usual Suspects. Verbal tells the Kujan that once he (Verbal) has been removed, Soze is going to disappear: "You think you can catch Keyser Soze? You think a guy like that comes this close to getting caught and sticks his neck out? If he comes up for anything it'll be to get rid of me. After that, my guess is you'll never hear from him again."
And then he does exactly what he says. he even leaves his enemy Kujan standing there helpless; wins don't get bigger than that.
The Descent. Coincidentally also has the 'Brazil' ending but way more downbeat.
Angel Heart.
Keyser Soze does win in the Usual Suspects. Verbal tells the Kujan that once he (Verbal) has been removed, Soze is going to disappear: "You think you can catch Keyser Soze? You think a guy like that comes this close to getting caught and sticks his neck out? If he comes up for anything it'll be to get rid of me. After that, my guess is you'll never hear from him again."
And then he does exactly what he says. he even leaves his enemy Kujan standing there helpless; wins don't get bigger than that.
Harakiri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harakiri_(1962_film)
A truly incredible film if you understand Japanese culture/history. The bad guy "wins" in a way, but it was more because the tale was set during an important time of transition in Japanese history and as such is more of a tragic story about futility.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harakiri_(1962_film)
A truly incredible film if you understand Japanese culture/history. The bad guy "wins" in a way, but it was more because the tale was set during an important time of transition in Japanese history and as such is more of a tragic story about futility.
