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Cheery Lunatic

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I just love how everyone here immediately saw the word "Texas" and started singing praises.
It's so nice of y'all. Reminds me on how open-minded and unbiased this site can be. :D
 

jonnosferatu

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As I read the article:

1) If there was reasonable doubt that he had committed the crime, his punishment was reasonable due to the presence of reasonable doubt. If it could be proved that he did commit the crime, then the court should not have made the plea bargain, as rape is (to my mind, at least) a very serious crime and not one that should regarded as a potential waste of court time. I suspect that the judicial system disagrees in this regard, particularly in the South.

2) A rape charge does not constitute sufficient grounds for removal from the team. That said, the fact that he was convicted in some sense does indicate to me that there was sufficient grounds for removal. It is, however, still the school's choice.

3) I do not think that removing her from the cheerleading squad in response to her refusal to shout his name is reasonable. It is, however, still the decision of the administrators.

4) Urging her to keep a low profile and in all other ways avoid attracting attention to the fact that she felt she had grounds to press rape charges and that the court agreed with her enough to convict him along those lines, however, is completely ridiculous and totally unacceptable.

5) The ruling is...well, reasonable. Ish. I agree that the fact that it wasn't disrupting any classroom activities makes the school's argument considerably less valid.

I consider this primarily a fault with the judicial system for not being arsed to convict him in the first place, honestly. Secondary failure is the school's, third is the judicial system again.
 

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MoeTheMonk said:
I love how everyone responds to this horrible story, acting as if Texas always does this sort of thing, as if it couldn't possibly happen anywhere else besides that horrible, mindless, disgusting, southern, racist, religious trash-pit that is Texas. Next time something horrible happens in another country/state, I expect you all to be jumping up saying everyone in that place is subhuman and disgusting as well.

I expected better than these kind of hateful, stereotypical comments from the "fair, and open-minded" community of the Escapist.
Well many escapists need to stereotype to make them feel superior.
 

Sacman

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ah Texas...
I think I'll leave this here...<.<
OT: my faith in humanity has been destroyed for a long time...
 
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Acidwell said:
These threads just get me depressed
Yes, but your avatar makes me happy again.

Anyways-
Just-
I really do not have sufficient vocabulary to describe my hatred of whoever made that decision.
 

Scde2

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There has to be another side to this story.

But this is so fucked up it could be true...
 

Warachia

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quick question: WHY THE FUCK IS HE STILL ON THE TEAM? Don't they even slightly comprehend what this will do to the media?
 

Blemontea

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Shit...humanity was doing so good to restore my faith in it... now were way back in the negative zones.
 

2012 Wont Happen

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As a Texan, I'm very disappointed that this happened here. While most people here are just as outraged as anyone- I guess a lot of people here have a fetishistic obsession with sports.

As for the case itself, this doesn't lower my faith in humanity as a whole. It just makes me think that every person involved except for the victim would be dead in a just world.
 

Marik2

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I really dont understand when something like this happens and then everyone on this site says it represents humanity as a whole.
 

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I don't understand why people get so worked up about things like this when kittens and puppies are tortured and killed all the time, yet people think stories with little basis in fact are more worth reporting. I mean, they're just people; they're not even cute.

Seriously though, the source seems extremely questionable, and the idiotic sarcasm used throughout made it painful to read (that and the rape allegations of course!). Furthermore there were grammatical errors so I couldn't take it seriously, even ignoring the other stuff. It might have bothered me if it was a legitimate news article and seemed halfway plausible, but it just seems like a load of sensationalised crap.
 

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TeeBs said:
Yea it is, of course is it sad I wasn't surprised when it happened in Texas
AjimboB said:
Texas, proving once again that it's where the American sense of culture and justice goes to die.
2fish said:
Well it is texas....

I am just waiting for the lawsuit to hit another court then we will see big news story and small school will be smashed by angry people and lawsuits. Stupid choice there school person, stupid choice.

Also why was a person accused of rape and convicted of assult on the team in the first place?
thefrizzlefry said:
Dear, Texas:
FUCK YOU. You are rednecks and we are actively praying to every god that we can think of with the intent of making you secede, thus sparing us any further embarrassment.
Love, the rest of the country.
Come on everybody, lay off Texas. Like all of you don't have senseless dumb-fucks (like the people involved in this incident) in the places where you live. Stop generalizing all texans as senseless rednecks who are all just as mentally skewed as these poisonous assholes.

That would be like condemning Australia because they've got spiders the size of golden retrievers. Texas usually has a better sense of justice (and common sense) when it comes to these things.

And may the record show that Tx. is quite industrialized, and doesnt house the vast sea of rednecks you seem to think it does. Most people I know (myself included) hate rednecks/sports-above-all-else fuckheads.
 

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But apparently it's VIDEO GAMES that make people go on gun rampages. I would totally not blame this girl for popping a few of the heads of those school officials, not to mention the thugs on the basketball team.

What I want to know is why was EVERYONE not boycotting that game for them even allowing that kid to play? I think 'H.S.' is well off out of it. Any organisation that will expell you for something like that clearly isn't worth being a member of. These people that, in their mad pursuit of Following The Rules forget their humanity make me sick. Especially when they're being so blatantly hypocritical about it.
 

2012 Wont Happen

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thefrizzlefry said:
Dear, Texas:
FUCK YOU. You are rednecks and we are actively praying to every god that we can think of with the intent of making you secede, thus sparing us any further embarrassment.
Love, the rest of the country.
As soon as I'm old enough and have the funds to move, I'll be seceding from Texas. And the U.S. too for that matter. There is no place in this country with justice.

North Europe sounds nice.
 

RandV80

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As a Canadian I always find this jock culture Americans have an interesting topic to file under the limited US/Canadian cultural differences category. You see it on TV & movies, in news article like this one, and even inderectly through nerds like Movie Bob when their disdain for jocks occasionally leak out. I'm wondering if there's anywhere else in the world that has this 'jock' culture?

Asia for example while athletics are a nice to have in schools they put the emphasis on academics. Here in Canada, while we're similar in many ways with our game of hockey the route to the pro's is not associated with high school... Hockey teams are associated with towns & districts, not schools, and we use an age 16-20 junior system, not high school -> college. Europe of course is all about the Football, but unlike US sports it seems to be universaly loved & played. I'm not sure exactly how their system works but there aren't any indications of a jock culture, is there?
 

Ritter315

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Ok, just because it was in Tejas, doesnt mean that it was ok or expected. Texas is not as bad as people think it is, and it certainly doesnt see this story as a good thing as a whole of a society. I think it fits under an bigger problem with American society, the extremely high status we hold jocks in schools, and when I say jocks I mean American football (Or as I like to call it, rugby for pansies) and basketball. Baseball has become much less respected in the years and more like a passtime rather than a sport, and football (Soccer) is thought of as a sissy game for little kids. (My schools soccer team is one of the best around, and our below average football team is the most worshipped thing on campus)

Cheerleaders are also a huge stigma for American schoolkids. Cheerleaders are often portrayed as slutty, useless, eyecandy, which not all cheerleaders are like.
So knowing this when a jock rapes a cheerleader it seems to fit in the fabric of our society, jocks being testorerone fueled muscle-heads who crave sex from said slutty cheerleaders (Neither of which sterotypes are completely untrue mind you) so with that in mind it might not be completely unreasonable for this girls story to be brushed off but there lies the problem.
We as a society NEVER seen to understand perticular situations about established groups and that needs to change.
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
thefrizzlefry said:
Dear, Texas:
FUCK YOU. You are rednecks and we are actively praying to every god that we can think of with the intent of making you secede, thus sparing us any further embarrassment.
Love, the rest of the country.
As soon as I'm old enough and have the funds to move, I'll be seceding from Texas. And the U.S. too for that matter. There is no place in this country with justice.

North Europe sounds nice.
Yeah, they just have labor strikes and incredibly expensive gasoline. And its quite cold. I don't know, I think Texas would be a pretty swell (yes, I just said that!) place to live, especially compared to NYS

ExaltedK9 said:
TeeBs said:
Yea it is, of course is it sad I wasn't surprised when it happened in Texas
AjimboB said:
Texas, proving once again that it's where the American sense of culture and justice goes to die.
2fish said:
Well it is texas....

I am just waiting for the lawsuit to hit another court then we will see big news story and small school will be smashed by angry people and lawsuits. Stupid choice there school person, stupid choice.

Also why was a person accused of rape and convicted of assult on the team in the first place?
thefrizzlefry said:
Dear, Texas:
FUCK YOU. You are rednecks and we are actively praying to every god that we can think of with the intent of making you secede, thus sparing us any further embarrassment.
Love, the rest of the country.
Come on everybody, lay off Texas. Like all of you don't have senseless dumb-fucks (like the people involved in this incident) in the places where you live. Stop generalizing all texans as senseless rednecks who are all just as mentally skewed as these poisonous assholes.

That would be like condemning Australia because they've got spiders the size of golden retrievers. Texas usually has a better sense of justice (and common sense) when it comes to these things.

And may the record show that Tx. is quite industrialized, and doesnt house the vast sea of rednecks you seem to think it does. Most people I know (myself included) hate rednecks/sports-above-all-else fuckheads.
See my vast wall of text for my agreement with this wise person.