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Anton P. Nym

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Bulletinmybrain said:
And you are misinformed. McCain is not another bush clone. If you known him before he started appealing to the political center he was known as a maverick because he went against his party. Its the high cost of elections that has changed him. Just like how obama has changed his stance on issues because of the money from PAC's and such that he needed.
B-wha? McCain started as a centrist... that's why his party considered him a maverick, because it was drifting further to the right while McCain was reaching across the aisle whenever he thought bipartisanship made sense. What cost him in the election wasn't an appeal the middle, it was the concessions he made to the neoconservative and religious wings of the GOP (most notably the selection of Palin as his running mate, but there were many others) that made him look too much like a McSame.

I'd have applauded a McCain win in 2000 or 2004, but McCain in 2008 looked too much like Cheney Lite to me and to a lot of Americans.

-- Steve
 

Nargleblarg

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Well I didn't care really for this election but now that it's over it seems evident Obama doesn't know what to do and he is not going to change much like he says, no president evers changes really much.
 

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Freakout456 said:
Well I didn't care really for this election but now that it's over it seems evident Obama doesn't know what to do and he is not going to change much like he says, no president evers changes really much.
"it seems evident Obama doesn't know what to do...". Did you look at your magic orb or did you just pull this one out of your ass? He isn't even president yet and has only been president-elect for 1 day; im not sure how you managed to write down that sentence and feel good about yourself.
 

Jumplion

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All I can say is;

Obama? Please don't fuck up. Please. I don't want to clean up your left-over nuclear fallout as I'll just dump my problems on the next generation and they will dump their problems on the next generation and so on and so on.

Just....do you best? M'kay?

That being said, I loved it when I got back to school to see the McCain supporters start yelling the end of the world.
 

black lincon

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pieeater911 said:
Good, that means that Palin won't be given an office higher than the Governor of Alaska.
actually there's some speculation that she might become a senator. see there's a senator in Alaska who was just convicted of a crime, all that's left is sentencing. when he goes to jail he will resign the senate seat giving governor Palin the chance to put someone there. she is allowed to make herself a senator.
 

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Seekster said:
Yes yes Obama won congrats, you deserve a snickers if you supported him. For those of us who didnt, well there is always 2012.

Whats pissing me off right now are all these people outside of the United States congratulating America like it was a good dog and throwing us a treat. While its nice to be reminded that unlike other countries elections, ours actually attract the attention of the entire world, it just gets under my skin when people from one country talk about politics in another country like they actually have some clue about what is best for that country.
I'm not gonna say that i know better but i travel to the US often and i actually have a brain unlike the old lady at the mccain rally who called obama an arab. Or the guy whom thunderf00t caught on tape saying " I trust palin because she has the holy spirit in her "

When i congratulate you i'm not throwing you a bone as a reward. That's a master / servant relationship. I congratulate you because you people who voted made the best decision possible at this point in time.
 

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Frankly, I'm not happy he's in office, but then, I'd not be happy had McCain won either. It irks me to see everyone getting so worked up over these two. They're both woefully under qualified for the position, and both have all the wrong ideas for fixing our problems. The only explanation I can surmise is people have just grown accustomed to "putting up" with the lesser of two evils and have thus put all of their support and hope in one or the other. Part of what this country was founded on was freedom of choice. That doesn't mean we have to be presented with just a few choices for president and have to pick one or the other, it means we can choose who we feel fits the position best. Most people seem to have forgotten that. I know quite a few people that didn't even realize they could write in a different name as their pick when voting. What scares me though, is that we now have a democrat run House, Congress, and now a democrat in the oval office. I'm not republican, but damn, we need some kind of fucking balance in power here.
 

Vigormortis

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axia777 said:
We my fellow humans are living through real history. This day of November 4th 2008 will be remember for centuries in the history books as a day that American society changed for the better in so many ways in is almost beyond comprehension. We are living in a truly amazing time. This will be studies by children in books in class rooms around the world. The first non-White man has been elected President. We have changed, we have changed forever!
Yet, change doesn't necessarily mean it's for the better. Yes, we've made history, in a small way, but as for his presidency, you're assuming quite a lot. You act as though he's already fixed all of our problems. Frankly, most of his promises and goals are completely unrealistic and virtually unattainable. It's true that this election will be in the history books for years and years to come, but it remains to be seen if his term in office will be written into history because he brought us into some kind of new "golden age" of prosperity, or he just drove us further into the hole we've dug for ourselves.
 

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Firstly, I genuinely believe 'some guy' would have won, if he'd been white and charismatic and in Obama's place, sure I think Obama got some black people out to vote who wouldn't normally have, but I think it was more a vote against the Republicans, more than a vote FOR Obama. Don't want to knock Obama, but like I said, a magic 8 ball probably could have been voted in if the only other option is someone who's going to step in and listen to Bush's advisors.

What kinda bugs me is that (and I'm not making myself out to be an expert, its just a viewpoint) it seems that America, like England, is in the middle of some economic trouble, and I'd say he's going to need to raise taxes, to get some money flowing. (of course there's that $2 billion a week being shovelled into a bog hole where Iraq used to be, too.)

Unfortunately you ask the average voter if they're willing to pay 5% more tax for five years in exchange for a utopian society in five years time, and all you'll get is ' whut? tax? I'm a voting for the other guy! '

Call me a whiny leftie, but I think if you're pulling in more than say, $200,000 a year, you can pay a bit of extra tax to help make sure that the guys who clean your streets, deliver your mail, and do all the 'lower' jobs have it a little easier.
 

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Vigormortis said:
What scares me though, is that we now have a democrat run House, Congress, and now a democrat in the oval office. I'm not republican, but damn, we need some kind of fucking balance in power here.
You seem to have picked up your definition of "balance" from Fox News. Balance does not mean giving equal weight to opposing view points just because they exist, so that people on opposite ends of a scale always come out even.

That being said, I was very pleased that the Democratic party failed to get 60 seats in the Senate (I'm making that claim based largely on the current spread in Georgia, but I'm also fairly confident about the Republicans pulling out a win in Alaska). A single party with a filibuster-proof majority is a recipe for pig-headed idiocy.

Per write-in candidates? Our current system only supports the two-party candidate setup. Write-ins, 3rd party candidates, they're all a waste of votes (except in those rare cases where the 3rd party manages to get enough votes for federal funding the next go round, but really, that's just a waste of money). The people you know may be ignorant of the option, but if it's not a relevant option, why should they be wasting precious storage space for useless tidbits?

Additionally, given that "the grass is always greener...", and most of what I've read so far for our prospects of economic recovery, the next 2 years are not going to be pretty. I wouldn't worry about your "balance" being out of whack for very long. *Singing* Party like its 1994!
 

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Drift-Bus said:
Vigormortis said:
axia777 said:
We my fellow humans are living through real history. This day of November 4th 2008 will be remember for centuries in the history books as a day that American society changed for the better in so many ways in is almost beyond comprehension. We are living in a truly amazing time. This will be studies by children in books in class rooms around the world. The first non-White man has been elected President. We have changed, we have changed forever!
Yet, change doesn't necessarily mean it's for the better. Yes, we've made history, in a small way, but as for his presidency, you're assuming quite a lot. You act as though he's already fixed all of our problems. Frankly, most of his promises and goals are completely unrealistic and virtually unattainable. It's true that this election will be in the history books for years and years to come, but it remains to be seen if his term in office will be written into history because he brought us into some kind of new "golden age" of prosperity, or he just drove us further into the hole we've dug for ourselves.

It'd be funny if, in 50 years time, this presidency is quoted as being the reason why legislature passed in 2013 banned any African American as running for President.




GET IT, CAUSE HE SUCKED SO BADLY AT IT THEY THOUGHT "NO WAY CAN A BLACK GUY EVER AGIAN FUCK US UP THIS BAD!" GET IT!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
If there's an award for the most racist, misinformed, ignorant, and tasteless comment made on this website, you sir are the winner.
 

neoman10

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TheBluesader said:
I'm a registered Republican who really liked McCain early on. But then as I watched his campaign implode and his running mate make speeches a senior high class president would be proud of, I got the impression that maybe he just wasn't the man we needed for the job right now. So I voted for Obama. Hope he can actually fix the things that need fixing.

To all my fellow Republicans: time to wake up, folks. Our party no longer represents its core values. Now it's all blind patriotism and legislating morality. We either need to fix it, or jump off the sinking ship.

OH, and if you don't know what the core values are supposed to be, or you think that blind patriotism and legislating morality ARE the core values, you're part of the problem and should wise up or leave the party. Insane military spending and subsidies to unnecessary corn farmers are only "core values" because Bush and Reagan went to church with really sneaky rich guys. It's disgusting, really.

i wish my parents would listen to you, sadly being 15 i cant vote
 

neoman10

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Chemotherapy said:
Drift-Bus said:
Vigormortis said:
axia777 said:
We my fellow humans are living through real history. This day of November 4th 2008 will be remember for centuries in the history books as a day that American society changed for the better in so many ways in is almost beyond comprehension. We are living in a truly amazing time. This will be studies by children in books in class rooms around the world. The first non-White man has been elected President. We have changed, we have changed forever!
Yet, change doesn't necessarily mean it's for the better. Yes, we've made history, in a small way, but as for his presidency, you're assuming quite a lot. You act as though he's already fixed all of our problems. Frankly, most of his promises and goals are completely unrealistic and virtually unattainable. It's true that this election will be in the history books for years and years to come, but it remains to be seen if his term in office will be written into history because he brought us into some kind of new "golden age" of prosperity, or he just drove us further into the hole we've dug for ourselves.

It'd be funny if, in 50 years time, this presidency is quoted as being the reason why legislature passed in 2013 banned any African American as running for President.




GET IT, CAUSE HE SUCKED SO BADLY AT IT THEY THOUGHT "NO WAY CAN A BLACK GUY EVER AGIAN FUCK US UP THIS BAD!" GET IT!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
If there's an award for the most racist, misinformed, ignorant, and tasteless comment made on this website, you sir are the winner.
agreed...with the guy above not the most racist, misinformed, ignorant, and tasteless person above