Obesity, Does it bother you?

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mrhappyface

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atalanta said:
mrhappyface said:
If i didn't care about him, i wouldn't have tried. I didn't hate him, i thought him as a good friend, but yes, i didn't like how repulsive his body was. That's why i tried to change him. I was stuck with him because it was my duty and obligation as a gym partner to motivate and change him and also the fact that i was the only "solo" good athlete. Was i a bad friend? Or was it my friend's fault?
:|

About whether or not you were being a bad friend, man, how should I know? I'm assuming you did stuff other than be in the same class together, and it's not like I've ever seen you interact; for all I know he's going to ask you to be the best man at his wedding.

...Okay, look. Did he ever ask for help, or were you always the one who was pushing? Did he participate to the best of his abilities, or did he do the bare minimum of work? Did he seem glad to see you on days you had PE, or did he look like he was going to his execution?

Trying to force someone to change when they don't want to or don't care is a shitty thing to do, IMO -- I get that you had good intentions, and being concerned for a friend is all well and good, but at a certain point you need to step back and respect their decisions.

(hurf durf ETA: if he appreciated that you were making an effort, on the other hand, ignore that last bit there. It all boils down to whether or not he wanted what you were trying to get him to do.)
He never really liked PE in the first place, he'd rather be in the library or in the band room, and always seemed bored.
Me: So ready to go on another fun day of Physical Education!?
Him: I guess so , mongoose. *sighs*
And when he's at the lbirary...
Me: So what you reading there?
Him: The Crystal Shard! Man Salvatore's the shit!
 

Bat Vader

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I am fat. I am fine with it. I am on a diet and trying to lose weight but I don't let it get me down or anything. Also, why would people hate fat people? I don't understand it. I mean if someone who was fat was a bully or something I can see hating that person but not everyone who is fat.
 

Slayer_2

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Wow! When i was in high school i was normal weight but i was 4% body fat. My gym teacher said that i was supposed to look like an Aushwitz victim, but i wasn't luckily. It was kind of weird though to my friends, who said that having a 6 pack and your ribs sticking out simultaneously didn't look good.
I've heard that everybody has a 6-pack underneath their flesh, so I suppose if you somehow managed to look like a starvation victim without actually starving yourself, I guess you could look pretty ripped in certain places. I can sometimes have quite the 4-pack if I:

A) haven't stuffed myself recently, which causes my stomach to bulge

B) flex my abdomen muscles.

Who needs to work out when you can just walk around flexing all day? :p
 

The Hairminator

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I'm a tad fat, but I have realized I don't want to stay this way and is now turning it around. And it's working. In this pace I will be normal weight in 6 months.

And also, I should add, this thread has been very interesting to read.
 

asinann

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In some (most) cases it starts with the parents not saying "no" when little Timmy says "I want a cheeseburger!" and continues until they are 10 years old and 200lbs. After that it spirals into a case where they eat because they are depressed and are depressed because they eat so much.

There are some very rare cases where it is a hormonal imbalance, but I would say that those are less than 1 of 1000 cases of obesity. According to my BMI I'm morbidly obese, but if you to look at me you wouldn't know it. The BMI is only useful as a measurement of health when you combine it with all the other tests that doctors run to see if you are unhealthy. Unfortunately people have gone on to believe that the BMI is an end all be all of health. Last time I worked out on a regular basis, I lost about 20lbs the first 2 weeks, then it started coming back almost as fast as the fat burned off and was replaced by muscle again. Starting weight 220 (was 215 in high school) finishing weight 235, but at least I can curl my body weight, bench 350 and use skinny people as javelins again.

Quite honestly, too far in either direction is pretty disgusting.
 

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EspirituExterminatus said:
MagicMouse said:
Spandex is dam sexy if you've got the body for it! And its not useless labor if it makes you live longer/happier.
No. It isn't. Its sexy on chicks because I am a pervert with low standards. Never, ever, evereverevereverEVER on guys.
It only passes on women because guys are pervs who think that anything skin tight is sexy no matter how ugly and gaudy it really is.
And eh, thats a load of crap. My own poppa was a chain smoking, constantly drunk (scot so that explains it) fat bastard. Died in his mid 80s. A mate of mines father was a army guy, died of a heart attack mid 40s during a work out. And if your happiness depends on your weight then you are not truly happy anyway.
Besides, it is useless labour. You want to lift shit and work your arms, cut and carry firewood for the elderly. You wanna jog, walk someones dog.
Gyms and gym equipment is the absolute height of stupidity as people who could be doing something useful with the same amount of effort just perform useless labour for no reason.
I never understood this train of thought, I mean, what exactly would the people that spend time working out do in its place? Watch TV? And, what exactly could they be doing in its place that's useful? Feed the poor, cut firewood for orphans in Winter, other stereotypical saint-like acts? This sounds more like a rant that I intended, but I just don't understand what's so stupid about working out if they enjoy it or want to look/be healthier. (and yes, some people actually do enjoy it) That, and it barely takes any time out of one's day, my workouts generally last 1-2 hours, meaning that it doesn't interfere in any "useful" or recreational activities I do. So, enlighten me, what makes it so stupid?
 

Arisato-kun

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People can be fat if they want. It just means that I can outrun them come the eventual zombie apocalypse.
 

achilleas.k

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I saw this last week and it's somewhat related to some of the points brought up here. It's not directly related to obesity or even weight loss, but I think certain points are worth mentioning and a generally good watch for those who have the time, especially those commenting on exercising, sports, gym and heavy diets. (sidenote: TED talks are probably the best thing on YouTube)

As for my opinion on obesity, I'm going to quote an English dude and say "it's not a disease..." (cookie awarded for finding reference).
I have no problem with obese, overweight or unhealthy people. I do have a problem with people in those situations that complain about it however.
In general, I have a problem with anyone who complains about being in a situation when he is too lazy to do anything about it and has yet to try all possible situation-changing actions.

If said person doesn't seem bothered about being in said situation (even if he doesn't like it deep down) and has accepted it, then there's really nothing I can do for him. I often find myself weighing the cost of having an unwanted situation Vs. the effort it takes to change it and find that the effort costs more. It's all personal choices that all of us make every day about matters ranging from life-changing to trivial. If you (OP) find that being physically fit is worth the effort, good for you. Some people don't agree and believe their time and effort would provide a greater benefit if targeted elsewhere. For instance, I find the gym to be utterly, mind-numbingly boring. The benefit of being physically fit is greatly outweighed by the cost it will have on my mental health. Also the time spent there could easily be spent on some much more productive (be it work, or playing games - at least I wouldn't be bored).
 

Sandwich Man

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Personally, I'm sick of people trying to 'save' me, or feel sorry for me because I'm overweight.

There seems to be this bizarre idea that I'm lazy because I don't exercise. Well I'm fucking not, I'm pouring every ounce of effort that I'm capable of (quite a lot, by the way) into my future career, and said career doesn't require me to be very active. Dragging me away from things I need to be doing to do things I don't isn't really 'helping' me, is it?

Nor do I give a shit if people think that I look disgusting, either. I barely go outside anyway, too busy with that achieving my life long dream thing, you know?
 

Soxafloppin

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Well, I think its ugly.. and obese people should do something about it, But its there problem.
 

InsertWittyName

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I don't need to do sports, im a metal head an play guitar that means I only eat 1 meal a day and play guitar 3 hrs + a day and look dead when im doing anything else.
 

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jonnosferatu said:
Many of the strongest guys I know are obese.

>.>
They're technically obese, in terms of numbers and the BMI bullshit, but do try to remember, muscle weighs more than fat.
But if they are obese as in keg sticking out of stomach, then thats hard for me to imagine.
 

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Being an American girl who has become overweight, lemme just make a few points:

-I was not always fat...I used to be quite skinny; I took it for granted, not realizing how pretty I was. I think it took me about 4 years to fully get over the healthy level for my age, or at least to realize that I had a problem.
-Yes, lack of exercise and poor eating choices as well as side effects from depression medication are three reasons as for my excess poundage.
-One doesn't just become "obese" overnight...for me, it was a slow painful process of self-hatred and addictive cycles.
-To clarify the previous bullet point (I just don't want to make coherent paragraphs cuz it's late) My roommate in college showed me how comforting food can be; it can be used to celebrate, dull pain, etc. Some young people discover alcohol, some discover drugs, some discover sex...I discovered food. Yes, food can be like a drug and like any addiction, it is very very hard to quit.
-I agree with my brother when he says that everyone is addicted to something, whether it be food, drink, drugs, video gaming, shopping, etc. You just have to try to substitute bad addictions for good ones (i.e. read more instead of being glued to a computer screen all day or get addicted to walking as opposed to food)
-It's a cycle, like Fat Bastard says in the second Austin Powers movie "I eat because I'm unhappy, and I'm unhappy because I eat" stupid character, funny movie, but true statement.
-It's easy to point at obese people and laugh, but you gotta remember that most of those people don't want to be like that; it's like laughing at someone who smokes and saying how they'll get lung cancer..they might know the consequences, but they'll keep doing it until they make the effort to quit.
-That effort is hard...I am trying to eat better, I've joined different weight loss groups and I'm going to Curves.
-No, I don't ***** about my weight all the time...it's a problem I'd rather NOT bring up in conversation.
-I HATE being the "typical fat American" god, that's so derogatory- there's enough to be ashamed of my country, I don't need this.
-One last edit (man, I need to go to bed) eating healthy is hard when you're lower middle class. According to the weekly ads for Dierbergs, a package of Pizza Rolls are $1.00 each, as opposed to the freshly made quiche from the deli which is $8.99. Organic/health food is expensive, and yes American portion sizes are well over the healthy limit.
-My excess pounds have made me miserable. I feel ugly, weak, ashamed, and hopeless. It doesn't feel like I'll ever be able to lose it. Once you get past a certain point, it takes a lot more drastic life style changes in order to lose it. Since my grandmother's death, I haven't been able to go to Curves lately, but I'm getting back into the swing of things and got reweighed and measured. I damn near cried. I hate, HATE shopping for clothes. My libido is shot because I don't feel sexy (when I get out of the shower, I avoid looking in the mirror at all costs).

Bottom line: Being overweight sucks and seeing posts similar to "no fat chicks" or "fat people are just lazy" (there are lazy skinny people too, you know) doesn't make me feel any better. I'm not trying to chastise any one particular post, just kind of letting people know what it's like.
 

achilleas.k

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One more thing I forgot to add to my previous post:
I find that pity, in certain circumstances, is just as cruel as plain old hate!
 

blankedboy

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People call me out on being anorexic because I'm skinny. Anorexic is a mind problem, not a physical one.

Goddamn stupid people.
 

ADDLibrarian

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achilleas.k said:
One more thing I forgot to add to my previous post:
I find that pity, in certain circumstances, is just as cruel as plain old hate!
Yeah, I quote Dr. Quinn from Sealab 2021 just for shits and giggles:

I'm not asking for your pity, and I don't want your apologies. All I want is your understanding and acceptance. I'm asking for your friendshi -
[Sealab explodes]
 

achilleas.k

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Bebopcola2021 said:
achilleas.k said:
One more thing I forgot to add to my previous post:
I find that pity, in certain circumstances, is just as cruel as plain old hate!
Yeah, I quote Dr. Quinn from Sealab 2021 just for shits and giggles:

I'm not asking for your pity, and I don't want your apologies. All I want is your understanding and acceptance. I'm asking for your friendshi -
[Sealab explodes]
Never heard of it, but it reminded me of that scene in Deep Blue Sea when Sam Jackson was giving his motivational speech. Hilarious :)
 

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Bebopcola2021 said:
I pretty much have to agree with this person on most points, as they speak a great deal of truth into the matter.

Obesity stems from a number of things, and all of them need to be dealt with before the person can commit to changing their lifestyle.
 

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SikOseph said:
Particularly when they squeeze into tiny skirts or trousers and their fat comes out of the top of them laterally for an inch or two. Or when they think they're being sexy in clubs. *shudders*
This. I don't find them disgusting so long as they're wearing clothes that fit. (Besides, it would be highly hypocritical if I couldn't stand the sight of fat people)