Oh no! Gossip girls is corrupting our children!

[vampirekid.13]

they just want the books moved from one section to another?


well...thats not that bad. they're not saying ban them, they're not saying burn them, they're nto saying censor them, they just want them shifted from one shelf to another...no biggie.

 

[chazmizta]

oh dears, i think that this move is yet another grizly step towards an eventual police controled world, where even basic human functions, like sex are denied by ignorant bigots *jumps off bridge* >.<

 

[G1eet]

I've read worse, and earlier to boot.

1984 in 5th grade. Take that, Catholic school curriculum!

(its a baptist school, there's a difference)
e.x we read catcher in the rye in 7th grade, the same book that caused people to think it encouraged assassinations

but you probably knew that

Not from the OP's school; my own elementary school.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

All this stuff about the children... when I was 12 i had seen videos of a gerbil being- well, bad things happened to it. I don't see how books will mess up anything. THERE IS NO INNOCENCE THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT about the children. I say that the sooner they are introduced too what a terrible place the world is, the better.

THANKYOU! FINALLY SOMEBODY WITH SOME SENSE!
I read the tomorrow series when I was like, 11, and that has sex and drugs and violence and craploads of other stuff and that didn't 'corrupt' me.
And i've seen saving private ryan, black hawk down, letters from iwo jima, flags of our fathers, all the bourne movies, shooter, and i am soon to watch the new R-rated rambo movie and it hasn't turned me into satan, in fact all those war movies have shown me the value of life and why we should preserve it. there is NO WAY anybody could watch flags of our fathers then declare war on somebody. i know this is getting off topic but all presidents/prime ministers should watch at least one war movie before declairing war, seriously..

Edit: and we were soldiers, i saw that too. and all of these movies BEFORE the age of 15

 

[LeonLethality]

I really hate people who impose their morals on others... I just... really...really... hate them...

Don't we all?

I am kinda offended that they want to rate books, I am mature enough by this age to know what I am READING without some stupid rating going on I may live in canada but knowing how much the USA influences us and if this gets passed and spreads to other places in the USA its only a matter of time

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Don't these morons ever learn. The more "dangerous" and "morally corrupting" you try to pass off something to be, the more kids and teens will want to try it out. And as soon as they find out that it doesn't seem like such a big deal, they will over-indulge themselves with it, because the first time didn't spell the end of the world for them like their idiot parents tried to pass of the object or activity to be.

If parent groups could just learn to stop making such a fuss about sex, drugs, smoking, drinking, violence, excplicit lyrics in music and "porn" in the media, then maybe, JUST MAYBE, most teens wouldn't be so goddamned fascinated about it and wouldn't have to grow up becoming the screwballs they are.

It's like with Adam and Eve and the apple. The more you're forbidden from eating it, the easier it will be for the serpent to tempt you into doing it. And we all know how many serpents there are in the world who capitalize on selling crap to kids and how rich they grow simply because the parents forbid so much instead of just instilling the trusty old: "...meh!"-reaction in their kids from the start by NOT MAKING A FUSS ABOUT IT!

If I ever produce a child, I think im going to forbid him/her ever to read books, and doing sports and exercise, but I won't care in the slightest if he/she picks up smoking, drinking or having sex.

That way, I'll end up with the most physically fit and smartest son or daughter ever, who has a healthy and moderate attitude towards drugs and sex. Because in his or her teens he/she will naturally go against my wishes and do lots of sports and read all the books he or she can get his or her hands on, but simply go: "...meh!" as soon as someone brings up drinking or fucking.

I would be a fucking genius as a parent. XD

 

[Shady Shades]

When it comes to children these days its usually the parents fault. I also point the blame at the children themselves. They're so damned coruptable! >.<

 

[wewontdie11]

If they're not trying to remove access to the books altogether, and just move them out of the young adult section, I would not view that as censoring personally, just discouraging.

I don't exactly know what these books are like, but I would only agree with that if it was a certain level of explicitness that was being used. If it literally just says "then they had sex" or mentions genitalia or something then that's total crap, but if it goes into graphic detail about techniques, positions etc, then I think I might object to my 13 year old kid reading stuff like that. 15/16 fair enough at that age you can handle things like that in a bit more detail then.

After all it is supposed to be a parent's job to teach their children about the birds and the bees so they should decide individually for their parenting style when they are going to educate their kids about the subject. Not saying handing them an erotic novel and saying "Yup that's where you came from!" is a good idea, but it should be the parent's discretion.

A whole campaign seems mighty unnecessary though, surely they could be putting more effort into more important things, like making sure their children learn things they're supposed to in school.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

After all it is supposed to be a parent's job to teach their children about the birds and the bees so they should decide individually for their parenting style when they are going to educate their kids about the subject. Not saying handing them an erotic novel and saying "Yup that's where you came from!" is a good idea, but it should be the parent's discretion.

That's quite unrealistic, don't you think?

Seriously, how many in here knew about sex and how it works well ahead before their parents had "the talk" with you?

I for one did. In fact, I don't remember my parents ever having "the talk" with me. I was a bright kid so they pretty much assumed I picked it up by myself, which they assumed quite correct.

I think you're doing something seriously wrong if you consider yourself "protecting" your child by actively putting a stop to explicit cultural expressions. If you try to protect your kid from disease, starvation, rape, harassment etc. then GOOD that's the mark of a good parent. But over-extending that "protection" to limiting your child learning about what goes on in the world and society at large, that's just plain stupid and an unrealistic wish.

And most of the time it hasn't got anything to do with the parent actually wanting to "protect" their kids from harm, but rather protecting the kids from reaching certain realizations about where they came from. When a parent's priority lies in saving him or herself from awkward or embarassing situations, then that's a telltale sign of bad parenting...

 

[fletch_talon]

Until the condom breaks, obviously. Why else would there be so many teen pregnancies?

Um because majority of teens are learning a false rate of failure for condoms along with abstinence only education so when they have sex (which they will) they do it unprotected because they don't learn the huge benifit of covering their member. I'm pretty sure minority of teens are using condoms.

Not supported by the teens I talk to. I am a 17 year old virgin, as are most of my friends, and we don't intend to have sex any time soon. Of my friends who do have sex, they all use condoms. One's pregnant from a cracked condom.

Your friends need to fork over the money for good condoms rather than the 2 dollar public toilet vending machine ones.

Besides which, if in the worst case scenario, a condom does break, you take a trip to the chemist for a morning after pill. According to the site I just googled this pill is 95% successful.

Finally the pill (the regular one) should be combined with condom use to increase protection.

I've only been sexually active with my partner for 2-3 years and so far not one condom has broke. We had a scare one day due to a doctor jumping to conclusions but it turned out to be something else... We're still not sure if it was better or worse as an alternative.

 

[wewontdie11]

After all it is supposed to be a parent's job to teach their children about the birds and the bees so they should decide individually for their parenting style when they are going to educate their kids about the subject. Not saying handing them an erotic novel and saying "Yup that's where you came from!" is a good idea, but it should be the parent's discretion.

That's quite unrealistic, don't you think?

Seriously, how many in here knew about sex and how it works well ahead before their parents had "the talk" with you?

I for one did. In fact, I don't remember my parents ever having "the talk" with me. I was a bright kid so they pretty much assumed I picked it up by myself, which they assumed quite correct.

I think you're doing something seriously wrong if you consider yourself "protecting" your child by actively putting a stop to explicit cultural expressions. If you try to protect your kid from disease, starvation, rape, harassment etc. then GOOD that's the mark of a good parent. But over-extending that "protection" to limiting your child learning about what goes on in the world and society at large, that's just plain stupid and an unrealistic wish.

And most of the time it hasn't got anything to do with the parent actually wanting to "protect" their kids from harm, but rather protecting the kids from reaching certain realizations about where they came from. When a parent's priority lies in saving him or herself from awkward or embarassing situations, then that's a telltale sign of bad parenting...

Ditto with me and my parents, but I'm going to educate my kids about it and be open about sex as much as possible because it's ridiculous the things you hear mixed in with actually true information from your peers. I wouldn't have minded if my parents decided to sit me down and tell me about it but they are quite old fashioned so I guess it's not their style.

I'd rather my kids hear it from me, rather than some kid at school telling them they can get a girl pregnant by kissing or some bollocks. Plus by being overall more open about sex with your kids you can avoid the shitstorm created in the wake of things such as this. If you already tell them these things at a suitable age you won't need to petition to have books moved in libraries.

 

[Kajt]

What's next? Burn all books?

 

[irishdelinquent]

Wow, this is just pathetic. I'm surprised they didn't just ask them to burn the books like the good ol' days

Oh, and something I thought of that made me laugh:

A wild Gossipgirl appeared

I choose you, Crazyparent!

Crazyparent used Overreact...

...but it did nothing.

Gossipgirl used Common Sense

It's Super Effective!

Crazyparent fainted!

 

[Shadowfaze]

Well they're gonna have to learn about sex one way or another one day.

yeah... eventually. but letting them know stuff too early is the reason why kids have very few morals nowadays.

 

[DoW Lowen]

Question. Who is Jack Thompson, is he the American equivalent of Michael Atkinson down here in Australia?

And secondly ratings are bullshit, if the church had there way I wouldn't be playing Gears of War or Mass Effect.

 

[reaper_94]

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Until the condom breaks, obviously. Why else would there be so many teen pregnancies?

Um because majority of teens are learning a false rate of failure for condoms along with abstinence only education so when they have sex (which they will) they do it unprotected because they don't learn the huge benifit of covering their member. I'm pretty sure minority of teens are using condoms.

That'd be me good sir. :3

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Ditto with me and my parents, but I'm going to educate my kids about it and be open about sex as much as possible because it's ridiculous the things you hear mixed in with actually true information from your peers. I wouldn't have minded if my parents decided to sit me down and tell me about it but they are quite old fashioned so I guess it's not their style.

I'd rather my kids hear it from me, rather than some kid at school telling them they can get a girl pregnant by kissing or some bollocks. Plus by being overall more open about sex with your kids you can avoid the shitstorm created in the wake of things such as this. If you already tell them these things at a suitable age you won't need to petition to have books moved in libraries.

Indeed. And with that being said, a "suitable age" is a lot more early than most people think.

I mean, seriously, why would a seven or eight year old kid be irreperably scarred for life by knowing what sex is and how it works at that age, like most people will have you believe?

 

[reaper_94]

I actually found out about sex when i was 7 because my brother told me EVERYTHING, I think i turned out okay

 

[wewontdie11]

Ditto with me and my parents, but I'm going to educate my kids about it and be open about sex as much as possible because it's ridiculous the things you hear mixed in with actually true information from your peers. I wouldn't have minded if my parents decided to sit me down and tell me about it but they are quite old fashioned so I guess it's not their style.

I'd rather my kids hear it from me, rather than some kid at school telling them they can get a girl pregnant by kissing or some bollocks. Plus by being overall more open about sex with your kids you can avoid the shitstorm created in the wake of things such as this. If you already tell them these things at a suitable age you won't need to petition to have books moved in libraries.

Indeed. And with that being said, a "suitable age" is a lot more early than most people think.

I mean, seriously, why would a seven or eight year old kid be irreperably scarred for life by knowing what sex is and how it works at that age, like most people will have you believe?

Now, see I agree with educating your kids at about the age of, say 10 or so, it's not just a "natural thing" like people say it's a fucking necessity to the species, but there's a difference between that and reading erotic stories. As I've already said I don't exactly know the level of explicitness involved in these books, but I would not want my kid reading about really screwed up or detailed stuff when they were, for example, 10. Just the same as I wouldn't like them looking at porn.

Sexual education is incredibly important but the last thing people should be doing is over exposing their children to sexual material. It can massively impact a person's psyche having so much information they don't know what to do with given to them all at once.

For example I have a friend who lost his virginity at 13 and for want of a better phrase, could be best described as a man-slut, and has never held down a girlfriend for more than a few months. I'm not exactly a psychiatrist but I'd say there was probably a connection there.

 

[NeutralDrow]

...what, pray tell, is "chain sex?" Does that just mean having more than one partner?

I'm thinking it's like a conga line...

Nah, your one is probably right. Conga lines are too awesome for Gossip Girl.

Conga line sex? ...that's simultaneously the least sexy and most hilarious thing I've ever imagined.