Clashero said:
Well, Rock music and Classical music generally don't have much in common, save for a few common chord progressions and time signatures, but there are plenty of genres that mix classical music and rock: Progressive rock, Post-rock, Symphonic Rock, Symphonic Metal, Wagnerian rock, etc.
I wasn't alluding to what the genres had in common, I was talking about their breadth - i.e., rap is a broad label referring to several subgenres; screamo *is* a subgenre. Therefore, while elements of rap might be combined with screamo, it doesn't make sense to claim that all of rap is being combined with screamo.
Rock and Classical, on the other hand, are both very broad headings, so it makes more sense to say that the two are being combined - although the statement itself says very little.
Clashero said:
Also: I care because untalented people are being called "musicians" by the ignorant masses, and because there are tons of bands who have had no training, write songs that take 5 minutes to write, have a singer who can only scream (also, emo singers usually have a very limited range and even more limited tessitura), a drummer who can only play in 4/4, a guitarist who can only play 5ths and a bassist who can only play whatever the guitarist is playing but an octave lower and with only one string. Not to mention all the guitars are always tuned to D or Drop D, with complete disregard for whatever key the singer is using.
That might be because they *are* musicians, you whining gnat of a half-baked elitist. Their works may not be as technical, complex, or whatever other quality an artist would need to fit your personal definition of music, but they're still musicians. That's not to say that what they produce is necessarily good, but there's no universal musical talent gradient - if one makes something that someone somewhere considers to be music, then one is a musician.
Also, since when is training required to be a musician? You are aware that many of the artists who pioneered blues, which all rock has its roots in, as well as rock itself, had little to no classical or technical training? Their "training" consisted of playing the damn instrument.