One-hit melees bother me in shooters
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I love threads like these. I see all the complaints and immediately want to go and spam the hell at whatever is being bitched about this time around.
I've always thought that it's weird how a hail of bullets won't necessarily kill someone, but a single stab will, when in real life it's generally the opposite. So much for 'realism'.
I'm probably the only one who cares... but I would propose "grapple-style" combat when someone tries to melee an aware target, similar to what Call of Duty 3 had, but not as scripted like in that game.[/quote]
The problem with that is, how would a grapple work in a fps. In gears of war 2 when you get into a chainsaw battle, you cannot get killed by any spectators watching your battle. This usually ends with the winner of the battle getting a kill and then getting insta-killed by someone waiting behind him. The reason that this would not work in a first person shooter is because you die quite a bit faster. In a game like call of duty it takes 2-4 bullets if you are not lagging or not using a sniper rifle. The reason the knife is there is for you to kill someone who is to close fast so you can get on with the game. If there was a grappling system it would give more of an even chance for the other person to win, and get out alive, but it wrecks the purpose of what the knife is to begin with. If it was put it, I really doubt many people would use it.
The problem with that is, how would a grapple work in a fps. In gears of war 2 when you get into a chainsaw battle, you cannot get killed by any spectators watching your battle. This usually ends with the winner of the battle getting a kill and then getting insta-killed by someone waiting behind him. The reason that this would not work in a first person shooter is because you die quite a bit faster. In a game like call of duty it takes 2-4 bullets if you are not lagging or not using a sniper rifle. The reason the knife is there is for you to kill someone who is to close fast so you can get on with the game. If there was a grappling system it would give more of an even chance for the other person to win, and get out alive, but it wrecks the purpose of what the knife is to begin with. If it was put it, I really doubt many people would use it.
The problem is that if the knife is not a one hit kill then it would be more useless than the plasmids in Bioshock. The knife has always been a weapon that while useful in its own way, is one of desperation (except with commando in MW2 which is why that perk no longer exists) to be used in a hectic firefight where you just used up all you rounds and someone is still shooting you, or at extremely close range. If the knife was made a two hit kill and I was in a situation where I had an empty light machine gun at point blank range facing an enemy with a fully loaded shotgun, I would have a better chance of survival attempting to reload my weapon and praying to god his reflexes are so slow as to not notice me for ten full seconds. Incidentally, you'd probably like BC2 since the knife really is useless in that game. It's still a one hit kill, but it takes an incredibly long time to pull out, and doesn't land it's mark half the time even if it does come in contact with the enemy's character model.MiracleOfSound said:
I would agree. It's really annoying when I shoot at someone who then teleports five feet and knifes me in the face. Battlefield: Bad Company 2 did it better, I think. It takes a while to pull your knife out and slash, so in a face-to-face battle, you probably will lose.
It doesn't bother me as
a.all my Online FPS games (you know the kind) is not insta-kill and
b.it's quite fair to be honest in Bad Company 1.
You see if bullets were realistic you'd drop your controller and go play some Halo. Guess knifing is a way of 'realism' maybe?
a.all my Online FPS games (you know the kind) is not insta-kill and
b.it's quite fair to be honest in Bad Company 1.
You see if bullets were realistic you'd drop your controller and go play some Halo. Guess knifing is a way of 'realism' maybe?
Hah! I get it! Since John Locke uses knives a lot in the show, and we're talking about knives! [/buzzkill]emeraldrafael said:
OT: Well, I always had the idea of knives putting enemies in a 'dazed' state, which they recover from in a bit longer than it would take otherwise. That way, knives wouldn't be a one hit, and you'd get a chance to shoot or knife your opponent back, but it'd still be a powerful reward for getting close.
Eh... its oka. I heard about it and after all the hype, i just dont think i could enjoy it.SteakHeart said: