Playstation 3: A Console Review
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I had a 360 (a little after launch) and bought a PS3 (right after launch) and kept them for about a year and a half. I enjoyed the 360 until I bought the Ps3. A few months before hand, my 360 RRoDed and I had to get it replaced (at a temp cost of 130, until it got refunded). Then, shortly after the Ps3 launched, my current 360 RRo...annoyanced? It kept giving me the 3 rings, but would restart if I unplugged the power brick. After a while, it was "Schrodinger's Console" and I was basically afraid to buy any game for it (rented a few.) At the end, when it was all said and done, I sold my 360 for 60 bucks. The only game I truely feel like im missing out on playing is Dead Rising and Earth Defense Force, two games that were launch, or shortly after launch.
The online capability of the 360 is basically a non-issue for me. Even if I WANTED to pay a stupid amount of money for online, at 3 of the places I've lived, I could not get the internet on the system at all! On the Ps3? Just a "plug and play" and I was on.
Now, however, my Ps3 has been locking up on the two newest games I've purchesed (Fallout3 and Saints Row2) and I dont know if its my system or the games. If its the system, that means the 360 had a crappier launch, but the ps3 failed earlier. On the flip side, 360s have been more stable lately, thanks to new motherboards.
What is hurting the ps3, and puts it admittedly in the second slot in the console war is cross-platform games. At face value, I dont have even one iota of a problem with 360 owners getting games. Heck, give 'em MGS4! But, when games are being released on both systems, they are DESIGNED on one. So, nearly every cross platform game looks and plays better on the 360. The RE5 demo looks flat and less detailed on the ps3 compared to the 360. And just go to GameFAQs and look at the "Console Comparison vol.4" they have going now. Each and everytime the 360 is just "more crisp" and "better shading." When games are designed on the ps3, for the ps3, they kick the crap out of 360's games. MGS4 is extremely pretty and fun! Even people who arent video gamers have sat and watched me play it.
Anyways, Im about to graduate from my university and when I get out on my own, I'll buy another 360. Im going to predict that every cross-console game Ill wind up getting the 360 versions but I'll bet almost anything that I'll be more blown away by the ps3 exclusives than the 360's.
I had a 360 (a little after launch) and bought a PS3 (right after launch) and kept them for about a year and a half. I enjoyed the 360 until I bought the Ps3. A few months before hand, my 360 RRoDed and I had to get it replaced (at a temp cost of 130, until it got refunded). Then, shortly after the Ps3 launched, my current 360 RRo...annoyanced? It kept giving me the 3 rings, but would restart if I unplugged the power brick. After a while, it was "Schrodinger's Console" and I was basically afraid to buy any game for it (rented a few.) At the end, when it was all said and done, I sold my 360 for 60 bucks. The only game I truely feel like im missing out on playing is Dead Rising and Earth Defense Force, two games that were launch, or shortly after launch.
The online capability of the 360 is basically a non-issue for me. Even if I WANTED to pay a stupid amount of money for online, at 3 of the places I've lived, I could not get the internet on the system at all! On the Ps3? Just a "plug and play" and I was on.
Now, however, my Ps3 has been locking up on the two newest games I've purchesed (Fallout3 and Saints Row2) and I dont know if its my system or the games. If its the system, that means the 360 had a crappier launch, but the ps3 failed earlier. On the flip side, 360s have been more stable lately, thanks to new motherboards.
What is hurting the ps3, and puts it admittedly in the second slot in the console war is cross-platform games. At face value, I dont have even one iota of a problem with 360 owners getting games. Heck, give 'em MGS4! But, when games are being released on both systems, they are DESIGNED on one. So, nearly every cross platform game looks and plays better on the 360. The RE5 demo looks flat and less detailed on the ps3 compared to the 360. And just go to GameFAQs and look at the "Console Comparison vol.4" they have going now. Each and everytime the 360 is just "more crisp" and "better shading." When games are designed on the ps3, for the ps3, they kick the crap out of 360's games. MGS4 is extremely pretty and fun! Even people who arent video gamers have sat and watched me play it.
Anyways, Im about to graduate from my university and when I get out on my own, I'll buy another 360. Im going to predict that every cross-console game Ill wind up getting the 360 versions but I'll bet almost anything that I'll be more blown away by the ps3 exclusives than the 360's.
Okay- I must state- I am a PS3 owner (whore?). So you may take what I say with a grain of salt.
I find NO difference between the way a 360 play and the PS3. Each has it's little baby (Halo, GoW)and each has its little faults that make you want to launch it through the nearest window.
BUT. A PS3 isn't so much a consul as it is a computer. Download music, surf online, play online (Big bonus- PS3 online play is FREE) watch movies, etc- it pretty much does whatever you want it to; plus its harddrive is upgradable. Not to mention the fact that, in what I can only guess is an attempt to make the PS feel like a part of the family, it allows you to name it.*
In addition PS3 has better processing power for games. So the ones that come out with that platform (growing more and more) are shining becons of visual gold. YES- some of the games that came out for 360 first are not as pretty, but the same can be said vise versa, so thats a mute point.
What to watch out for in these cercumstances is how long the game takes to be released to PS. While most of us (be honest) are sugar munching ADD activist who don't like waiting 30 sec. for a cross-release, when Sony takes its time, its magic...
Coming to mind is Bioshock. This game took a while, but the PS3 version of it is pretty enough for company to eat off of.
But, lets be honest... Let's say "Enough" to the 'my system can kick your systems arse' nay saying and mention the REAL love interest for the PS.
BLU-RAY
Because while gaming system may be identical- people are right-there is a price difference.... About $150.00 Canadian, actually. But, it's all worth it in my book. After all, sure I shelled out $400.00 to buy a PS3... But that meant I didn't have to spend another $500.00 to pay for a Blu-Ray reader, that may (or not) be as good of quality as the one included in the PS3 bundle.... And THAT makes the PS3 righteously able to run up and kick the 360 in the nuts any day of the week.
*Note: We called ours "Steve"... Because it never gets old to watch expressions when we say "Come on over, where going to spend the evening fooling around with Steve.
I find NO difference between the way a 360 play and the PS3. Each has it's little baby (Halo, GoW)and each has its little faults that make you want to launch it through the nearest window.
BUT. A PS3 isn't so much a consul as it is a computer. Download music, surf online, play online (Big bonus- PS3 online play is FREE) watch movies, etc- it pretty much does whatever you want it to; plus its harddrive is upgradable. Not to mention the fact that, in what I can only guess is an attempt to make the PS feel like a part of the family, it allows you to name it.*
In addition PS3 has better processing power for games. So the ones that come out with that platform (growing more and more) are shining becons of visual gold. YES- some of the games that came out for 360 first are not as pretty, but the same can be said vise versa, so thats a mute point.
What to watch out for in these cercumstances is how long the game takes to be released to PS. While most of us (be honest) are sugar munching ADD activist who don't like waiting 30 sec. for a cross-release, when Sony takes its time, its magic...
Coming to mind is Bioshock. This game took a while, but the PS3 version of it is pretty enough for company to eat off of.
But, lets be honest... Let's say "Enough" to the 'my system can kick your systems arse' nay saying and mention the REAL love interest for the PS.
BLU-RAY
Because while gaming system may be identical- people are right-there is a price difference.... About $150.00 Canadian, actually. But, it's all worth it in my book. After all, sure I shelled out $400.00 to buy a PS3... But that meant I didn't have to spend another $500.00 to pay for a Blu-Ray reader, that may (or not) be as good of quality as the one included in the PS3 bundle.... And THAT makes the PS3 righteously able to run up and kick the 360 in the nuts any day of the week.
*Note: We called ours "Steve"... Because it never gets old to watch expressions when we say "Come on over, where going to spend the evening fooling around with Steve.
well written review, good job, and i agree with most of your points and the PS3 is not a bad system, but as far as the whole more space to store content, its kind of the year 2009, and i doubt that any system out now would need to have a game on more then one disk, the PS3 hard-drive is good, but the 360, and wii ones aren't awful either
D_987: Gone Gonzo "That last statement completely ruined any credibility your incoherent argument may have held."
Okay- so the 'tongue in cheek' approach to posting isn't always a good idea... All right, fact noted.
That being said- I did state that I was biased right at the beginning.
Okay- so the 'tongue in cheek' approach to posting isn't always a good idea... All right, fact noted.
That being said- I did state that I was biased right at the beginning.
Very true- and which system is best usually revolves around what you prefer... But its what you can ADD to your consul that requires the hardrive space- and PS seems to be willing to hand that out in spades. (last freaky report I got was that you could buy an expansion pack that add 200GB to your hardrive... Oh, and you can covert your system to Linex(sp?))LiL said:
Believe what you want to but don't be surprised if FFXIII comes out on the 360 with 4 disks...i'm just sayinLiL said:
Neither of them are exclusives, though.n3w2nj said:
I like the console (although lack of backwards compatibility and the hard-to-distinguish Blu-Ray don't cut it for me), and I would get it, but there aren't anywhere near enough good exclusives to warrant me paying so much for it.
I mean, I want to get LBP, and I am interested in Metal Gear Solid 4, but Resistance 2 merely confused me.
'Why am I killing this giant robot again?'
Again so many tl;dr responses, so excuse me if I cover already trod ground here:
Let me start by saying that I agree that it is the higher-end, nicest piece of software out there. It has so much potential to be THE next generation machine to beat.
Now with that said, since I own all three consoles, and many older ones, and have been participating in hardware wars since the late 70's/early 80's, I can fairly say that if Sony doesn't get their ass in gear and start taking their PS3 line seriously, it's the new Betamax of gaming consoles.
I don't say that lightly, because I really, really, really want to love my PS3 as much as I loved my PS2. So I'll go over my niggles with it.
= Blu-ray is nice. Really, really nice. However, physical media is slowly slipping to the growing number of digital streaming services out there. For example, Netflix quadrupled it's streaming user base, but DVD/Blu-ray renting/buying is taking a huge hit. Blu-ray distribution was only up by 2%, and blu-ray sales only increased by 1.8%. That's awfully slow for the speed in which technology advances. Like the Betamax, it is the superior product over both DVD and streaming video. It's the same slow growth and price that hurt the Betamax that's happening right there with the Blu-ray.
= HD from Blu-ray is nice. But mostly everyone I know doesn't have an HD TV, so the thought of Blu-ray is distant in their minds. Until someone gets more HD TV hardware out there for a vastly cheaper cost, it's going to stay in that distant spot.
= Sony never, ever, ever meets their dates. All my awaited patches, releases and improvements are always put off a week to six months. I mean, I waited for Home, and it took 8 months longer than they promised. And then when I got into Home, it's basically a beta. Same with their patches for everything. Sony either needs to give us a good date, or not allow their PR machine to give us false hope. That more than anything pisses me off.
= Sony's Customer Service also sucks balls. Me and my 18 friends with PS3s play together as much as possible. We've all had some account/machine problems. Everytime we've called Sony or written Sony, they go through this series of events: 1) Tell us that it's our fault, 2) tell us that they don't have an answer, they'll get back to us (and they never do) then 3) finally admit they will take a look at our problem. I shouldn't have to go through 11 weeks of waiting before Sony tells me to send in my PS3 for a faulty Blu-ray component covered by my warranty. That pisses not just me, but all of my friends who have PS3s off. When my XBox 360 got the RRoD, my 360 was back in two weeks. And the customer service people were helpful.
= More games. I know that's partially the developers' fault, but when I read Kaz telling everyone in a interview that they intentionally made the dev kit and the PS3 architecture difficult to work with, I want to smack whoever thought that was a good idea. Honestly, more games is good, since typically 1 out of every 5 games for every system is a gem. If Sony's only releasing 10 games, that means only 2 of them were worth my time. MGS4 and LBP were the only games I thought were worth more than a rating of 8 last year.
Honestly, if Sony doesn't get their butts into gear and start making things easier for everyone all around, the PS3 is going to end up like their Betamax product. Sure, it's a better product, but when it's more pricey than the competition, and the media takes additional steps to get to production, then it's going to eventually fail to a system of lesser - but acceptable - quality.
That's just my opinion. Otherwise, you did cover some good points there.
Let me start by saying that I agree that it is the higher-end, nicest piece of software out there. It has so much potential to be THE next generation machine to beat.
Now with that said, since I own all three consoles, and many older ones, and have been participating in hardware wars since the late 70's/early 80's, I can fairly say that if Sony doesn't get their ass in gear and start taking their PS3 line seriously, it's the new Betamax of gaming consoles.
I don't say that lightly, because I really, really, really want to love my PS3 as much as I loved my PS2. So I'll go over my niggles with it.
= Blu-ray is nice. Really, really nice. However, physical media is slowly slipping to the growing number of digital streaming services out there. For example, Netflix quadrupled it's streaming user base, but DVD/Blu-ray renting/buying is taking a huge hit. Blu-ray distribution was only up by 2%, and blu-ray sales only increased by 1.8%. That's awfully slow for the speed in which technology advances. Like the Betamax, it is the superior product over both DVD and streaming video. It's the same slow growth and price that hurt the Betamax that's happening right there with the Blu-ray.
= HD from Blu-ray is nice. But mostly everyone I know doesn't have an HD TV, so the thought of Blu-ray is distant in their minds. Until someone gets more HD TV hardware out there for a vastly cheaper cost, it's going to stay in that distant spot.
= Sony never, ever, ever meets their dates. All my awaited patches, releases and improvements are always put off a week to six months. I mean, I waited for Home, and it took 8 months longer than they promised. And then when I got into Home, it's basically a beta. Same with their patches for everything. Sony either needs to give us a good date, or not allow their PR machine to give us false hope. That more than anything pisses me off.
= Sony's Customer Service also sucks balls. Me and my 18 friends with PS3s play together as much as possible. We've all had some account/machine problems. Everytime we've called Sony or written Sony, they go through this series of events: 1) Tell us that it's our fault, 2) tell us that they don't have an answer, they'll get back to us (and they never do) then 3) finally admit they will take a look at our problem. I shouldn't have to go through 11 weeks of waiting before Sony tells me to send in my PS3 for a faulty Blu-ray component covered by my warranty. That pisses not just me, but all of my friends who have PS3s off. When my XBox 360 got the RRoD, my 360 was back in two weeks. And the customer service people were helpful.
= More games. I know that's partially the developers' fault, but when I read Kaz telling everyone in a interview that they intentionally made the dev kit and the PS3 architecture difficult to work with, I want to smack whoever thought that was a good idea. Honestly, more games is good, since typically 1 out of every 5 games for every system is a gem. If Sony's only releasing 10 games, that means only 2 of them were worth my time. MGS4 and LBP were the only games I thought were worth more than a rating of 8 last year.
Honestly, if Sony doesn't get their butts into gear and start making things easier for everyone all around, the PS3 is going to end up like their Betamax product. Sure, it's a better product, but when it's more pricey than the competition, and the media takes additional steps to get to production, then it's going to eventually fail to a system of lesser - but acceptable - quality.
That's just my opinion. Otherwise, you did cover some good points there.
Errrr....wrong...Lord Krunk said:
Killzone 2 IS an exclusive. Final Fantasy USED to be an exclusive, but is now coming to the 360...
I'm surprised this review thread is still alive...
I hope I can top this review with my Xbox 360 review (coming soon!)
I hope I can top this review with my Xbox 360 review (coming soon!)
Excuse me, but I at least got 50% right.MrBrightside919 said:
Or 50% wrong, depending on your point of view.
EDIT: Sorry if I came off as rude. I had no idea that Killzone was an exclusive; it sounds like something exclusive to the 360.
You'd be surprised...Lord Krunk said:
Killzone was released on the PS2 and was marketed as a Halo killer, but essentially failed on every level. Killzone 2 is the sequel to that game (kinda), which is an exclusive like the original was...
This person clearly has no idea what he's talking about in terms of Hardware, and the whole thing smells like a giant Sony pamphlet, but I guess its fairly informative.
I think we've all learned something today...Lord Krunk said:
If I wanted the opinion of a fanboy, i'd go to the Gametrailers forums...Aries_Split said:
...Open my profile.MrBrightside919 said:
Look down.
Do you see the PSN ID?
Now shut up and realize that a Cell Broadband Engine is a terrible device for gaming. It's really great at floating point calculations, but not very good for the processing that comes with applications like games.
Also, in a sheer neck to neck comparison, there is VERY little difference between a GeForce 7800GTX, An ATI Xenos(In use by the 360), and the Nvidia RSX. All of which is trumped by a cheap 100 dollar 8800GT.
"Blu Ray is Sony's answer to high definition for both games and movies. Games that utilize Blu Ray have a much larger space to store content, which means that games can be much larger than they would be on other consoles. The PS3 versions of multi platform games wouldn't ever need to go to extra disks because the storage space is so much bigger than a DVD. That just makes me wonder how many disks Final Fantasy XIII will be on the 360."
Umm...No. First of all, MGS4 only took up so much space because Hideo refused to compress audio and visual files for a very insignificant gain in quality. Secondly, the first Viva Pinata takes up 10 gigs of space on a PC. That's a complete install. That is a very large amount. That easily fits on a dual layered DVD. Blu-Ray is overhyped and unpractical.
So before you accuse me of being a fanboy(I have no idea how you came to that conclusion either, considering I never mentioned any other company) learn what the hell your talking about.