Poll: 9/11 and you.

[crimsonshrouds]

conspiracies are stupid and boring I hold up the sign saying "9/11 WAS AN OUTSIDE JOB"

 

[Dr Snakeman]

There's no doubt in my mind that the attacks were orchestrated by the government. I don't know why that point of view is seen as some kind of conspiracy theory. It's not like that kind of thing is uncommon in this country.

I don't swear often, not even on the internet. BUT THAT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!! I usually respect people's opinions, even if they are stupid. But you are wrong. You honestly think that the U.S. government MURDERED 2,000+ citizens just for the hell of it? My god... I'll stop now, before I get put on probation or something, but jeez... I'd thought that the Escapist was free of loons like you. Guess I was wrong.

 

[Burningsok]

I thought it looked quite cool over the TV. Until I got to know people are trapped there.

And there's certainly something sketchy. Even the fact the planes got as far as they did. Normally you'd bomb the shit out of them before they reach major cities, so why wasn't the planes at least disabled/damaged, so that the people have a little chance to land... at least somewhere... but not the firggen NY, LOL!

I think what happened was the terrorist sprang into action when they were getting close to NYC instead of having to keep everyone hostage for the entire plane flight. This would of given our military less time to act.

 

[Jake the Snake]

I've seen shows and read books about it. There were surely signs that it might happen, the government just didn't when or where it might happen. Airport security was a JOKE before 9/11, so do I really think the US is holding back any crucial information? No, not really.

If anything I blame the ineptness of the Bush administration. It makes things easier for me. Fuck the bible thumping republicans.

 

[JasonBurnout16]

I imagine the US with-held some information, after all the subject is still a sensitive issue to date. But most of what they told is probably the truth, I think lying to people about something as serious as this is wrong. However I am 98% sure they told the truth.

 

[CaptainKoala]

I thought it looked quite cool over the TV. Until I got to know people are trapped there.

And there's certainly something sketchy. Even the fact the planes got as far as they did. Normally you'd bomb the shit out of them before they reach major cities, so why wasn't the planes at least disabled/damaged, so that the people have a little chance to land... at least somewhere... but not the firggen NY, LOL!

It had over 100 innocent citizens onboard. Why would the government shoot it down. If the military was aware of their intention to crash into the WTC they might have done it. But it was a different story.

 

[101flyboy]

It's sad, for me personally since I was born in New York city, and one of my grandmothers best friends died. I tend not to think of all the political/governmental etc. stuff when it comes to 9/11, because the lives that were lost are what the focus should be on.

 

[Dr Snakeman]

I think is was radical Islamists. All the 'proof' offered by the people who think it was someone else is either easily explained or complete BS.

Thank you. At least someone here is sane. I tell you, 9/11 is becoming this generation's moon landing... only the conspiracy theories are even more offensive because PEOPLE DIED, for god's sake!

Everyone from Cracked to National Geographic agrees, anyone who thinks that the government did it is a moron and an ass. Well, the latter doesn't actually say that, but you get what I mean.

 

[Space Spoons]

There's no doubt in my mind that the attacks were orchestrated by the government. I don't know why that point of view is seen as some kind of conspiracy theory. It's not like that kind of thing is uncommon in this country.

I don't swear often, not even on the internet. BUT THAT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!! I usually respect people's opinions, even if they are stupid. But you are wrong. You honestly think that the U.S. government MURDERED 2,000+ citizens just for the hell of it? My god... I'll stop now, before I get put on probation or something, but jeez... I'd thought that the Escapist was free of loons like you. Guess I was wrong.

Not for the hell of it, no. To justify the war in the middle east? To facilitate the destruction of certain key documents in the Pentagon? To ensure a swift and tidy Republican victory in 2004? Absolutely.

If you really think they wouldn't sacrifice US citizens in exchange for power, you're severely underestimating the power of greed.

 

[Gudrests]

Am I the only one who wonders why there was no wing marks or plane parts on the crash site on the pentagon?

Spoiler: *Cough*

[small]Missle[/small]

Spoiler: Oh but there was

I apologize for the size of the second one...

well didntcha hear...every misslie is disguised as a plane -_-

im really getting tired of hearing...."well it didnt happen to me so i dont care" or "it dosent effect me in any way so i couldnt care less" Really people....really? I understand if something bad happens to someone else and you just...well dont care, I understand reading a news paper and seeing oh 8,000,000 people die from cancer....ok that sucks for them and there family but thats it...the cancer didnt fly a plane into there house and blow it up. The cancer didnt just get arrest because he was trying to blow up a Christmas tree lightning just so he can join this group of people who are doing this. And guess what....it does effect you in many MANY ways

 

[drbarno]

I don't particularly care much, as I was young when it happened and didn't really know much about it. The only thing I notice is that since then Governments use stuff like this to try and restrict freedom by justifying that it will "catch the terrorists"

 

[Casual Shinji]

Am I the only one who wonders why there was no wing marks or plane parts on the crash site on the pentagon?

Spoiler: *Cough*

[small]Missle[/small]

When planes crash through buildings, they tend to shatter.

You didn't see any giant airplane wings lying in the streets of New York either, right?

When you have an object flying THAT fast, and jet fuel burning THAT hot, and the fact that the whole WTC collapsed on top of the wings, do you think there would be much left?

That's the point I was trying to make: When an airplane flies through a large intricate structure of concrete and steel, it's going to get ripped apart like a leaf. Hence no giant airplane pieces, which 9/11 conspiracy theorists are always whining about.

But the only reason there are 9/11 conspiracies in the first place is because it occured in America. If this had happend anywhere else, everyone would've just accepted it for what it really is; a terrorist attack. But no, America is involved so it's automatically a conspiracy conducted by the evil mastermind George W. Bush.

 

[gl1koz3]

I thought it looked quite cool over the TV. Until I got to know people are trapped there.

And there's certainly something sketchy. Even the fact the planes got as far as they did. Normally you'd bomb the shit out of them before they reach major cities, so why wasn't the planes at least disabled/damaged, so that the people have a little chance to land... at least somewhere... but not the firggen NY, LOL!

I think what happened was the terrorist sprang into action when they were getting close to NYC instead of having to keep everyone hostage for the entire plane flight. This would of given our military less time to act.

Yeah I started remembering something about this now. But it seems that the other plane could have been intercepted in time, though.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I blame the Jews because they pretty much made Abrahamic religion popular. The attacks were done in the name of Islam, which is an Abrahamic religion.

I blame England and France because their actions after WWI are the main reason the Middle East is so unstable.

I blame America because it just made itself such a good target by being wealthy and complacent.

I blame the prophet Mohammad because his words could be interpreted in such a way that they justified the attacks.

I could certainly go on. I'm in one of my determinist moods, so everything is responsible for everything and nothing. I tend to get depressed and ramble...

And I blame the lack of pirates in the modern world for Global Warming.

(If you think that that was totally random, nonsensical comeback: then either Google it, or....well, just keep thinking that.)

 

[CaptainKoala]

There's no doubt in my mind that the attacks were orchestrated by the government. I don't know why that point of view is seen as some kind of conspiracy theory. It's not like that kind of thing is uncommon in this country.

I don't swear often, not even on the internet. BUT THAT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!! I usually respect people's opinions, even if they are stupid. But you are wrong. You honestly think that the U.S. government MURDERED 2,000+ citizens just for the hell of it? My god... I'll stop now, before I get put on probation or something, but jeez... I'd thought that the Escapist was free of loons like you. Guess I was wrong.

Not to be a dick but this actually helps your point. It was actually 3000+, and 6000 injured.
I couldn't agree with you more. The government had no motive. And don't say 'it was for oil' because thats BS. The government could come up with a much better reason to get oil than kill 3000 innocent people

 

[CaptainKoala]

To quote maddox:

"1. The man in the picture above is Dylan Avery. To be more precise, the fact that Dylan, his friends, and family are alive, is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit. He, along with a couple of his friends, created a 9/11 conspiracy video claiming that the US government and the military caused 9/11. Take a closer look at the last part of that last sentence: he's claiming that the US government, for whatever ends, killed nearly 3,000 innocent Americans, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of more lives in the conflicts that ensued because of it.

2. Since Dylan's arguing that the government has no problem killing 3,000 innocent people, this raises the question: if his documentary is true, and we've established that the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill Avery and his friends as well? What's a few more lives to them to ensure the success of this conspiracy?

Whatever reason it may be that the government supposedly orchestrated this conspiracy, it must have been worth it to them to cause so much suffering and loss of life. So if there's any truth to this, then you can bet your ass that the government wouldn't let a couple of pecker-neck chumps with a couple of Macs and too much time on their hands jeopardise their entire operation by letting this stupid video float around on the Internet. I can picture you morons emailing me now: "BUT MADOX, MAYBE DYLAN POSTED IT ON THE INTERNET BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT HAD A CHANCE TO REMOVE IT LOL." Yeah, too bad this rebuttal is inconsistent with the premise of Dylan's shit-festival of a movie: that the WTC was brought down "in a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now we're expected to believe that the same government that was able to commit the largest terrorist operation in history--with military precision no less--is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down a little website set up by some college losers within days, if not minutes of its creation? The US government has the capability to monitor every electronic communication made anywhere in the world, yet we're expected to believe that they wouldn't be able to nix this kid long before his video ever became popular?"

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

 

[Dana22]

I'd say they received warning but didn't take it seriously.

Well thats a well known fact, no mystery here.

Really?! Didn't know. Doesn't surprise me, though. Intelligence blunders are frustratingly common. This one just happened to be costly.

The CIA tracked every movement of Bin Laden and his accomplices for a few years before 9/11. Basically since Al-Qaeda was formed.

I recommend you watching the National Geographic movie, Inside 9/11.

 

[thahat]

I couldn't give a shit. It didn't happen to me and it had no impact on me, so why should I care?

Because it's like the assassination of Franz Ferdinand if Franz Ferdinand had been two large buildings and Gavrilo Princip was two hijacked planes. Because it singlehandedly shaped the entire fucking century to come. You should care.

It may have shaped the century. It doesn't mean I should care about it? No-one I know died in the attacks. I was 7 or 8 years old when the attacks happened, so if things changed I haven't noticed. Aside from the paranoia over Al-Queda and Al-Jazeera as the new monsters in the closet, I haven't been bothered in the slightest.

So no. I don't care.

Al-Jazeera is in fact a news agency the site of which I often visit, I think you're confusing it with something else.
Get this: the whole debate about Islam and muslims getting hated just because they are muslims? It's because of 9/11. And this happens globally. Everyone is afraid of terrorists because of one terrorist attack that made it the hot new thing: 9/11. No one you know may have died in the attacks, but it did shape the world you now live in.

actualy its NOT because of 9/11, but because of what muslims, might do.
e.g. stone people, enslave their woman, cut of their vagina lips other jucky things. and gerally be not entirally modern people. 9/11, was, internationally speaking, not THAT a big deal in itsself, since terrorist attacks happen more often all over the place. it was just the first time something as big as the towers was actualy hit and brought down.

 

[Dr Snakeman]

There's no doubt in my mind that the attacks were orchestrated by the government. I don't know why that point of view is seen as some kind of conspiracy theory. It's not like that kind of thing is uncommon in this country.

I don't swear often, not even on the internet. BUT THAT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!! I usually respect people's opinions, even if they are stupid. But you are wrong. You honestly think that the U.S. government MURDERED 3,000+ citizens just for the hell of it? My god... I'll stop now, before I get put on probation or something, but jeez... I'd thought that the Escapist was free of loons like you. Guess I was wrong.

Not to be a dick but this actually helps your point. It was actually 3000+, and 6000 injured.
I couldn't agree with you more. The government had no motive. And don't say 'it was for oil' because thats BS. The government could come up with a much better reason to get oil than kill 3000 innocent people

Ah, crap. Now I feel stupid. I just could have sworn that I saw the numbers at something like 2,500 or so killed.

Well, I went ahead and fixed it. And thanks.

Edit: Also, nice move with the Maddox quote. I was thinking about that, but I couldn't remember where I read it.

 

[Danny Ocean]

But the only reason there are 9/11 conspiracies in the first place is because it occured in America. If this had happend anywhere else, everyone would've just accepted it for what it really is; a terrorist attack. But no, America is involved so it's automatically a conspiracy conducted by the evil mastermind George W. Bush.

Well of course! America is so amazing and perfect how could anyone from elsewhere have possibly hurt it?

It's obvious- the only people who can hurt Americans in America are Americans. No-one else could hope to stand a chance!