Poll: Abortion : Should men get a say?

[BeeRye]

If you are a man in a sexual relationship, you have to admit that contraception may fail, and your partner may not have an abortion. Defective contraception is no excuse, lack of contraception is no excuse. At the end of the day, no matter how cautious you are, pregnancy is possible, and if you can't stomach that perhaps you should rethink the nature of your relationship. This goes if you are 15 or 50.

 

[jboking]

I figure there should be a rule. If the man wants the abortion before the first trimester, then he should be relieved of any child support. If he decides that he wants it at any point after that, child support. If he wants the child and the woman doesn't, the man can choose to keep the child by himself as the sole parent so long as the woman is ok with it and he takes care of her for the 9 months she is down. Of course, in the end, if the mother said she's getting an abortion, then that is how it is going to be. The man can scorn her for the rest of his life if he wishes, but he isn't the one actually giving birth to the child. That's how I see it anyway.

 

[Vuljatar]

Yes, of course. The potential child would be as much his as it is hers.

 

[Sendo1920]

I don't think men should have a say in the actual abortion, although if they wish to not be acknowledged as the father on the birth certificate I believe that it is his right.

 

[stabnex]

I think the man has the right to discuss the choice with the woman only if the woman feels he has a say in the matter. IE: committed relationships, marriages, and mainly hinging on if it's his offspring or not. If it isn't his blood, then I don't think he should have any say in the matter other than unconditional support. Ultimately, yes, I agree with most others in this thread that it's not up to him because he's not the one who has to endure the real pain of the situation.

But if they both decide not to abort then they'd both make a damned serious commitment to stick together and not leave one with the burden.

 

[Kriptonite]

I think the man should have a say, it's a two person thing. Without the man there would be reason to have this discussion. But I think it should be 40% man's and 60% woman's opinion. But that's just crazy old me.

 

[Flying-Emu]

If that woman accepts my seed, she better be prepared to bear my child should her contraception fail. I don't care if it's her body, that's my child in her uterus, and if she isn't willing to accept her responsibilities, she can deal with the 9-month punishment and I'll take care of the kid afterwards.

No unborn child of mine is going to be killed before he has a chance at life.

 

[Silly_Billy]

If the woman wants to get an abortion in sound mind let her but if she is having a nervous breakdown you should stop her if the husband wants the kid.

 

[Sparkytheyetti]

It dosent matter, because the only way its going to mean anything if theirs a constitutional amendment for it.

Use contraceptives CORRECTLY and you'll be fine. Otherwise if you want to risk it, be prepared for the reactions of your actions. Or else, just don't fucking do it.

 

[Slayer_2]

If the man doesn't want the child, he shouldn't have to be at all involved with the kid if the woman refuses to have an abortion. I don't care what "moral obligations" the woman may have, if she really wants the kid, she should be willing to take care of it by herself.

 

[cheeseraven]

I think its funny that no one mentioned the show Boston Legal. They did a few episodes on this exact thing. The main point that they wanted to show was that men are treated like we have no emotional connection to the kids that we could bring into the world and therefore should not get a say in the matter at all.

I think that the man should have a say in whether or not he becomes a father. But there is also the fact that it is the woman's body. I do think that it should be decided on a case by case basis. Also, I really like the idea of maybe hiding the identity of the father, that way when the kid is old enough that they want to know who their father is then maybe the dad is ready to take on that responsibility.

MEN HAVE FEELINGS TOO AND THEY SHOULD BE RESPECTED!

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

because birthing is..er.."laborious" men should have minmil say in an abortion. Bascily it comes down to being part of a relationship that means to have offspring if things go bust one needs a get out jail card. Men just have to learn to keep it in their pants till they are ready to commit.... or be forced to commit monetarilyone way or the other....

If we were a bit more mature individual/society wise we could make it a equal say but there are jsut to many immature brats of 2X-3X having kids.

 

[Emilin_Rose]

... I was honestly all ready to rant about how a man shouldn't be able to tell a woman she can't abort a fetus when its her body that would be carrying it. I have honestly never thought about the situation in reverse. And to answer that, Yes. Men should be able to say "i don't want the god forsaken think either kill it or leave me out of it."

I have to say your solution if the woman won't get rid of it could actually work.

 

[ShadowKatt]

I am all for fathers rights and fathers right to abortion. Not neccessarily forcing her to get an abortion, but seceding his rights to the child.

Abortion in any form is an ugly situation, and a little responsability can go a long way, but pregnacy and abortion shouldn't be another bullet in the chamber held to the mans head. It takes two to make a baby, and if you're going to put abortion on the table as an option, then both get to make the call. Think of it this way, he doesn't want the child, she does, she can hold that over him for that childs entire life. He's not going to say, he's going to get a divorce, he's going to hate the child, hate her, and hate the system that emotionally and finacially bitchslaps him for the rest of his life.

 

[Scarecrow38]

Well the male has a right to tell her his thoughts, but she has the final decision.

 

[Emilin_Rose]

If that woman accepts my seed, she better be prepared to bear my child should her contraception fail. I don't care if it's her body, that's my child in her uterus, and if she isn't willing to accept her responsibilities, she can deal with the 9-month punishment and I'll take care of the kid afterwards.

No unborn child of mine is going to be killed before he has a chance at life.

I read an interesting article about some asian country making it possible to put an unborn fetus into the father's stomach area and hooking it up with an artificial umbelical cord.

Now if you're willing to carry the child, by all means, go ahead and say no abortions, but if you aren't willing to destroy your OWN body, then the woman has every right to take a kitchen knife to her stomach to get rid of your offspring.

YOU SIR are everything that is wrong with society and everything that is wrong with america. I'm assuming your american, but if not that is an amazing talent you have there, being the level of dick that comes from america without actually being there. I hope you choke. On someone's dick.

This of course being someone who's aunt was RAPED and the guy who did it said he didn't want her getting an abortion because it was "unchristian" and saying he wanted the child. Of course the judge hit him with the book and she got the abortion anyway.

 

[dontworryaboutit]

Personally, I feel that the only people who don't deserve a say in the abortion issue are the elderly men and women from the churches that I seem to find supporting pro-life agendas so readily, without regard for the fact that the ultimate decision will have no effect whatsoever on their own lives as their days of reproductive glory have long since passed.

 

[leviathanmisha]

Guy shouldn't be able to force the woman to kill off the baby, but they should have the right to practically abort it. I.e. Give up any claims to being a parent (Also making them not liable for child maintenance).

Likewise I do think women should be able to say they don't want the child, but the father is willing to raise it alone then a similar thing should be doable. The woman in this case gives up all claims and isn't liable for maintenance. Ofcourse if the womens REALLY spiteful in that kind of scenario they should still have the right to abort.

Yeah, I had friend you got his gf pregnant, and she went and had a abortion without him knowing. It killed him on the inside, knowing that she didn't want his child. I felt horrible for him, he would've been a great father...he is really good with children...I really think that if a guy wants the child, but the woman doesn't...the guy should be allowed to raise the child. But women are stingy and wouldn't give a shit what the guy wants...and yes, I am women...