Poll: Battlefield 3: PC or 360?

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Paragon Fury said:
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Why joypad?

Because, in my opinion, walking, running, climbing, stance changing, driving and piloting all are much easier, natural and control better with the layout of a controller and joysticks. Sure, you might be able to aim a bit better with a mouse, but a joypad with the sensitivity cranked and a set of FPSFreek sticks more than makes up for that.
Fixed for you. Unless you can prove it's better, it's all subjective.
Until you can prove that the WASD and mouse is somehow more intuitive and natural to flying a plane/helicopter or driving a tank or jeep (Stick vs. buttons), or not having to move any fingers to hit prone/stay crouched I win the movement argument.

And I would use my joypad for more PC games; but pretty much EVERY SINGLE PC GAME OUT THERE has fucking TERRIBLE joypad controls.
I said nothing about WASD being better than gamepad. I'm simply saying that your choice of "superior" control method is based on your opinion. In MY opinion, having to take your thumb off the right joystick constantly for other actions makes aiming clunky.
 

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natster43 said:
PC. I should be getting a new computer soonish so I can play the superior version. But can someone tell me. I have heard that it is going to be 60 FPS on the PC and 30 on the consoles. Can anyone tell me if that is a load of bull or not?
Well on PC the framerate that you play at entirely depends on how good the hardware you're running is.

On the xbox 360, since the hardware is the same across the board, then yes, all of them would be getting the same frame rate, and yes, since the xbox 360 is weaker, 30 frames per second is probably the best that it'll get with this game.

Whether you get better than 30 fps on the PC depends on whether or not your PC is good enough to hand it though, so just because you get it on PC doesn't guarantee you a better frame rate than on the xbox.
 

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Ranthus said:
Paragon Fury said:
Xbox 360

+ I play my 360 A LOT more than my PC
Start playing your PC more than your 360 :p
Why? My 360 library IS HUUUUGE, and many more games I want come out on 360 than PC.
+ 360 version looks fairly comparable to PC version so far in terms of graphics and gameplay
Well, that's not really an advantage over the PC.
+ I prefer the joypad for shooters
Kind of in response to your response to the people who think that a controller is worse, but running is just as simple, going to prone is faster (push a button rather than hold one down for a second(actually, I have no idea how prone will work on consoles)), and I don't quite understand how a controller has a better layout than a keyboard when you can't look around, aim, and shoot while jumping, reloading, or arming a bomb very well on a controller.
As for driving and piloting, I like being able to take a look around me while doing those things. (alt button)

In reality, it all comes down to personal preference and which one you started with, so this means no one can convince you on this point.
+ I'll at least be able to talk to people while I play single player and am in a Squad.
Third party VoIP programs and in-game chat?
No, as in there will just be no one worth talking to.
+ I've played the last 2 BF games (Bad Company 1+2) on the 360
So?
+ Minor Bonus: A stack of new achievements to pad my Gamerscore with
That's always good.

Ok then, onto the next part.

PC

+ With my brand new gaming PC I might actually get better performance out of the game than on 360 for once
+ I've played all the other BF games on PC
Not much to say about that.
+ 64 player battles, larger maps
+ DLC and patches likely to faster, cheaper
These really weigh in more heavily than anything else to me.
+ Despite all claims, DICE clearly seems to be paying more attention to PC than console

- Likely to be few good 64 servers
Just stick to those few good ones.
If they can be found.
- 64 players unlikely to much better than in previous BFs, where maps still often felt empty and the pace slow
Have you played 2142 Assault Lines with 64 people? That gets crazy.
Yeah...on Leipzig and the other Northern Strike map. Thats about it.
- Terrible PC community
That just depends on the community you play with. Mine, for example...actually wait, that sounds kind of arrogant. I'll just say they're nicer than most people.
- Play in complete silence in both single and multiplayer
In-game voice chat, third party VoIP programs(Skype, Ventrilo) again.

I'm getting the PC version.

And to your below post, yes, it's all opinion. That statement was pure, solid opinion. Just the fact that people disagree with that and actually have a truth to their arguments means it was an opinion.

And not moving any fingers to go prone/stay crouched?
Your argument is a little self-defeating, in the fact that half of the actions you can take on a console require moving your right thumb off of the thumbstick that lets you aim or taking your finger off the trigger to push a shoulder button.

The only thing you need stop aiming for is Jumping, Reloading, Changing Weapons or activating something (IE: Get in vehicle, arm bomb etc). All of those things stop you from shooting or don't require aiming during, so you're safe. At the very worst, you can just claw the the right hand side of your controller, meaning you never have to move anything to do one of those actions.
 

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Coming from someone who has no choice but to get it on PS3, I say go for the PC. You have the luxury of owning a gaming PC capable of running one of the biggest games coming out this year, why not use it?
 

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I thought about the PC, probably would have had to upgraded my computer to play it, but then, Origin happened, and i gave the whole playing it on the PC up...
 

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Paragon Fury said:
ENORMOUS QUOTES
1st bold
That was half joking.

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I haven't exactly seen very many random people worth talking to on Xbox LIVE, either...people who aren't random, however, are definitely worth talking to. And you can still talk to them on Skype or Vent or something.

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Oh, they'll be able to be found. Sort by number of players. Unless what you mean by "good" is not "full." Usually the good servers tend to be full, though, because everyone wants to be on them because they are good.

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Not debating that.
Although, now that I think about it, if 64 players felt kind of empty, what'll 24 players fell like?

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All a matter of preference, really. But the point is you don't have to move any essential fingers at all for very long on a PC. Just your moving right key finger and your moving left key finger. And just the fact that, even if it's not important, you do have to take your thumb off the stick for doing important actions puts a serious hole in your argument. The problem is on both sides.

Well, anyway, you should read the edit I made. If you're really trying this hard to defend the 360, just get it on the 360.
 

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Even if I had a rig capable of playing it, I would still get for the 360 on account of that's what my friends are getting it on.
 

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Well, I know I'll be getting it on the 360, but that's because my laptop would probably suck for playing BF3 and all my buddies will be playing on the 360. If you really like your 360 and such, I'd get it for the 360, even if there'd be smaller battles and less graphics quality. The 12 vs 12 battles can get pretty nuts sometimes.
 

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I'll buy it on a disk for PC. Origin prices are just not right, but I can't see the point of buying it for console if you have a PC that can run it. (I can't see the point of buying any game for console, but that is just me.)
 

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I honestly don't see the problem with 64 player online. I have played on CoD4 and some HL2 mods with 50-55 player servers and they are usually lag free and fun. I am getting it for PC because I just feel it will be better. Don't have to pay for live, I didn't pay a dime for any BC2 DLC on PC and hoping it will be the same for BF3. Plus graphics will be better and maps will be bigger. Also mods eventually!
 

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Paragon Fury said:
Xbox 360

+ 360 version looks fairly comparable to PC version so far in terms of graphics and gameplay

PC version will definitely look and play smoother if your PC is up to snuff. No doubting that, the console versions will be running at 30 fps, which is fine, but 60 is a much nicer place to be at.

+ I prefer the joypad for shooters

Given the game is also on consoles, I'm sure you could get a wired 360 controller, plug it in via USB and be able to play with that on the PC. Barring that, there is software that can help do the controls anyway.

PC

+ With my brand new gaming PC I might actually get better performance out of the game than on 360 for once

As I've said above, definitely.

- Terrible PC community

This goes both ways, I personally think 360's community is worse. At least with my experience in Bad Company 2 about 30% of the people I encountered had a mic, and very few of those who did were helpful at all.
Just my thought on a few of your points. I'd say go for the PC, if only for getting the game how it's meant to be. On consoles you're limited to 24 players and chopped up maps. DLC likely will be fairly pricey, but patches shouldn't be too much of an issue, just a bit slow to go through as it takes some time to go through Microsoft before it gets officially patched.
 

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How can you call the PC community worse than the Xbox one, HOW?! Yes, both have a lot of douchebags in them, but Xbox surpasses every other community combined in that respect.

Also, I'd love to try playing you in any shooter with me using a mouse versus you with an Xbox controller. It'd be like a BMW M5 racing a smart car. Especially in Red Orchestra, Operation Flashpoint, or BF2.

Regardless of those two points, the BF series (excluding Bad Company) have been designed for PC, and hopefully this version won't be any different. Although I'm already losing hope that it will be anything like BF2, I sense another BFBC clone.
 

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I have no problem admitting that it's made for PC and will be far better on PC.

That said, I think it will be incredibly fun on the 360, even if the multiplayer is a bit stunted (graphically-speaking and with a far smaller number of players per game).

I also will be buying it for 360 since I have no real desktop to speak of nor do I have $700+ to drop on a decent rig.
 

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I see your problem...
this can be quite tough...
especially considering your one of THEM who prefers a controller...weirdo..

Putting that aside
I would have to say...PC
Why?
You just got a new rig, man
You got to test her out

EDIT:
Oh wait this is the "only Orgin" game?
...Fuck that shit...don't get it...
EA can suck it...
Yeah what ever get it for...dare I say...XBox
 

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Skoosh said:
The PC people here are being so unbelievably pompous, wow.

Being more articulate doesn't make for a better community, which I think this thread is proving quite well. Sure, xbox kids cursing at you sucks, but can be ignored easily. Snobbish PC gamers? Bit harder to brush off.

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How? People type on the PC. More type kills for me! Brush off those arrogant PC gamers by killing them when they are occupied. woot woot

Anywho I think there are more experienced people on the PC. There are some newbies and when they suck and bring the team down (like sniping when attacking in rush) they get pummeled with mean words.

I would pick PC because your skills are kind of limited on joy-pads (like turning around...if you want do to a quick 180 on a joy-pad, you can't really do precision kills, and if you go for precision kills, you can't do a quick 180)
 
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Paragon Fury said:
Waaghpowa said:
Paragon Fury said:
Why joypad?

Because, in my opinion, walking, running, climbing, stance changing, driving and piloting all are much easier, natural and control better with the layout of a controller and joysticks. Sure, you might be able to aim a bit better with a mouse, but a joypad with the sensitivity cranked and a set of FPSFreek sticks more than makes up for that.
Fixed for you. Unless you can prove it's better, it's all subjective.
Until you can prove that the WASD and mouse is somehow more intuitive and natural to flying a plane/helicopter or driving a tank or jeep (Stick vs. buttons), or not having to move any fingers to hit prone/stay crouched I win the movement argument.

And I would use my joypad for more PC games; but pretty much EVERY SINGLE PC GAME OUT THERE has fucking TERRIBLE joypad controls.
Ok I was with you on the movement thing as even though I am a PC gamer mostly(in recent years) I understand Analog>WASD/ESDF but Mouse>Analog but on the PC I do not have to change finger position to hit crouch or prone they are on Shift and V for me.

This next bit is the real problem no not every single PC game out there has bad controls. The reason it is harder on PC is that PC does not give you aim assist or auto aim that you get on consoles.
 

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Everything is better on pc if you can run it. I for once think that not having to listen to retards via microphone is why the pc is better.
Pc has some of the most terrible communities out there. If you don`t believe me play dota or hon.
 
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Skoosh said:
The PC people here are being so unbelievably pompous, wow.

Why is everyone admitting that mouse vs controller is subjective, then trying to say why one is better? If the OP says he prefers his xbox controller, factor that in, don't try to convince him that your subject choice is objectively better. I personally prefer a couple joysticks for shooters.

OP, why did you even make this thread? You obviously want to play on the 360 since you keep defending it, so just buy it for the 360.

Being more articulate doesn't make for a better community, which I think this thread is proving quite well. Sure, xbox kids cursing at you sucks, but can be ignored easily. Snobbish PC gamers? Bit harder to brush off. The community is only better if you plan on investing a lot of time and energy into it. If you just play occasionally, the PC community tends to be a lot harsher. Oh, and for the record, I do play quite a few PC games (Civilization 5, Star Craft 2, Heroes of Newerth, et cetera).

My advice is if you are going to be playing this often for a while, get it for PC. If you're just going to play occasionally for a couple months, get it for 360.
I don't really follow you decide to be less pompous than PC gamers by calling all PC gamers in this thread pompous. That does not compute. This is not subjective anyway. Analog is obviously superior to WASD/ESDF if you think about it. There is greater control over speed and direction as PC has 1 speed and can only do forward, back, left, right and diagonals but Mouse is better than Analog for aiming. This is technology there is clear better when it comes to tech. Now when it comes to which you prefer I don't care who prefers what but having a controller is not a + for consoles since it is not exclusive to consoles.