Exactly. One should not be remembered for how they treated their friends, one should be remembered for how they treated their enemies.Jonluw said:
Poll: Bin's Laden Body Being Handled In Islamic Tradition
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"In death, my enemy no more." That's pretty much what I believe.
He's dead now, just an empty shell not the man who killed thousands. Treat it the way you would any other defeated enemy; with the respect that shows you are the bigger man and not the immature dicks you present yourselves as sometimes.
But for the love of God don't send the body back. I can see the reasoning for respect but that'd be like rubbing their loss in their faces, pissing them off furthur. You've already kicked the nest, don't piss on it to.
He's dead now, just an empty shell not the man who killed thousands. Treat it the way you would any other defeated enemy; with the respect that shows you are the bigger man and not the immature dicks you present yourselves as sometimes.
But for the love of God don't send the body back. I can see the reasoning for respect but that'd be like rubbing their loss in their faces, pissing them off furthur. You've already kicked the nest, don't piss on it to.
Laughed my ass off reading this...will go find it later.Mr. Underson said:
On Topic: He's dead so any and everything done will only affect his people not the lifeless corpse that feels no pain anymore. Where as I do not believe he deserves anything we are America after all and will go about this in the most non-barbaric way possible. I'd personally say we put him in an urn and keep it as a trophy for America but thats just me.
I call a poll fail on account of biased wording. I don't see why we should with-hold his body and if we do we will just piss off the extremist more.
I don't know what your religious beliefs are, and it doesn't really matter, but what you just said was the most Christian thing I've seen all night; all that stuff about turning the other cheek seems to have been forgotten by way too many people tonight. Now, I'm not saying that we should have just let him get away with (mass) murder, but we need to remember the difference between justice and revenge, and stop celebrating the fact that another body has been added to the pile. There have been too many deaths on both sides already, and I'm afraid this is only going to escalate things once again.GrimTuesday said:
You don't care that the leader of a brutal terrorist organization is dead?ciortas1 said:
Is it cool to be completely nonchalant about these sort of things? I guess I didn't get the memo.
OT: He was an evil man who did horrible things, but his body should be handled in Islamic Tradition.
Even though I voted "America! Fuck Yeah!", unfortunately, we do need to handle his body with respect in Islam tradition, lest some other shit stained terrorist asshole use THAT as a reason to start yet another terror organization.
Honestly, we only have Obama's word that the Americans killed Osama. He could have been dead weeks ago.
I wouldn't really say it counts as a corpse, just a dead accumulation of subhuman scum.Volkov said:
YES.
My friends and I were just talking about how pathetic it is that people are actually cheering about his death.
The dead deserve to be treated with dignity and respect, friends and enemies alike.
My friends and I were just talking about how pathetic it is that people are actually cheering about his death.
The dead deserve to be treated with dignity and respect, friends and enemies alike.
He is a human being and deserves the have the respect of a human being, even if he did horrible things - he still is only and just a human being. He has the right to have a burial ceremony of hes tradition.
If Americans would go and deny hes right to Islamic burial. Then they would stir up something that even they can't handle.
Let him have hes beliefs till the end. After all, you Americans are always yelling about your freedom of religion - give the same respect to others that you demand for yourself.
America is not the leader of the world, at this rate you wont be anything unless you pickup you act, industry/economy* and fix up the problems in your society.
If Americans would go and deny hes right to Islamic burial. Then they would stir up something that even they can't handle.
Let him have hes beliefs till the end. After all, you Americans are always yelling about your freedom of religion - give the same respect to others that you demand for yourself.
America is not the leader of the world, at this rate you wont be anything unless you pickup you act, industry/economy* and fix up the problems in your society.
As an American, I'm getting tired of hearing all this "he deserved to die" crap. No wonder people think we're selfish dickholes.
Yes, he was a bad guy. Yes he was a leader of a 'terrorist' organization (I say terrorist in quotes because I try to look at things from both sides, and what we see as a terrorist they see as a righteous cause or whatnot), and yes, he deserved to be punished for his actions. But to celebrate his death? This isn't Wizard of Oz times where us munchkins can dance and sing "The witch is dead."
Personally I feel like him being killed doesn't necessary make him a martyr, as many have stated, but still puts his death in his own hands. It's like he set his suicide bomb jacket off on 9/11/01, and it didn't finish him off until 5/1/11. He knew he was dead when he plotted the attacks. I still think that had he been alive, publicly ridiculed, taken to court, given life, and sat in jail until he was killed either by some inmate, or put in solitary for the rest of his days and die naturally, regardless of whether he caused his own death or not, would have been much more of a punishment than outright killing him. What's worse, dying when you know you're dead, or living and wanting to die but not being able to, begging for death and having it fall on deaf ears
I'm sick of praising killing. There's enough of it. He caused enough, Saddam caused enough, the other bad guys caused enough, why do we have to cause even one more when we had the power and control to stop ourselves?
I'm a proud American, but I'm not feeling it so much as of 11:45pm 5/1/11
Yes, he was a bad guy. Yes he was a leader of a 'terrorist' organization (I say terrorist in quotes because I try to look at things from both sides, and what we see as a terrorist they see as a righteous cause or whatnot), and yes, he deserved to be punished for his actions. But to celebrate his death? This isn't Wizard of Oz times where us munchkins can dance and sing "The witch is dead."
Personally I feel like him being killed doesn't necessary make him a martyr, as many have stated, but still puts his death in his own hands. It's like he set his suicide bomb jacket off on 9/11/01, and it didn't finish him off until 5/1/11. He knew he was dead when he plotted the attacks. I still think that had he been alive, publicly ridiculed, taken to court, given life, and sat in jail until he was killed either by some inmate, or put in solitary for the rest of his days and die naturally, regardless of whether he caused his own death or not, would have been much more of a punishment than outright killing him. What's worse, dying when you know you're dead, or living and wanting to die but not being able to, begging for death and having it fall on deaf ears
I'm sick of praising killing. There's enough of it. He caused enough, Saddam caused enough, the other bad guys caused enough, why do we have to cause even one more when we had the power and control to stop ourselves?
I'm a proud American, but I'm not feeling it so much as of 11:45pm 5/1/11
Indeed, the idea that we have accomplished something great disgusts me right now, to think that this makes what happened in the past all better is foolish, and to think that this will make the future better is equally so. Another life has ended, and another family has lost a father, a husband, and a grandfather, and that is nothing to celebrate.Owyn_Merrilin said:
As someone who knows what Islamic tradition is, I'd say to read up on what they're going to do to his corpse.Krythe said:
