Poll: Camping: Whats the big deal?
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The easy part about dealing with campers is that you know exactly where they're goling to be. Occasionally, campers will find a spot at the end of a hallway where you can't reach them at close range (a lot of counter-strike maps come to mind), but that's really just a flaw in the map design.
I'll agree with many others on this thread; camping is fine, unless you spawn camp. At that point, you're taking advantage of an unfair situation over which your opponents have no control. Normal camping I don't find to be particularly evil, I've just never been much good at it. More often than not I tend to pick a position that nobody goes to, then, after waiting for about a minute, I decide to leave, and I get killed immediately. When I do succeed, it's usually by accident; I kill a guy, crouch and reload, and somebody happens to wander by, and the situation repeats itself however many times.
And admittedly, I do suck at killing good campers, especially when it becomes a team-coordinated effort by my opponents.
And admittedly, I do suck at killing good campers, especially when it becomes a team-coordinated effort by my opponents.
Oh dang, forgot this was a gaming forum, and thought this thread was about pitching a tent and getting rained on.
Erm...I don't see the big deal, unless they're glitching.
Erm...I don't see the big deal, unless they're glitching.
i HATE spawn campers, they make me RAGE, but else wise if youre sniping its hard to keep moving around and usualy quite foolish, and most people will call you a camper just for not having the good sense to run around using the sniper rifle as an SMG >:{
I see it as a tactic, a good one as strategic defence is something any military force needs to keep in mind. Besides if we are going to play soldier we might as well behave like them. One simple reason: Trial and error have taught the military what works. Taking cover, slow tactical advances or 'camping' are all things that work.
To the point normal soldiers despise snipers, the master of the camp.
Now... if there is an objective then camping can be a bad thing if it is happening so much the team can not complete said objective. If you need to retrieve something, capture a point or kill someone then hiding in a fox hole isn't going to be enough to achieve the objective in question. In those cases camping becomes a liability, not at strength.
Spawn camping is different though. It is exploiting a bug that designers really need to find ways to prevent. It is cheating, simple, but shouldn't be linked to a strategic defence.
To the point normal soldiers despise snipers, the master of the camp.
Now... if there is an objective then camping can be a bad thing if it is happening so much the team can not complete said objective. If you need to retrieve something, capture a point or kill someone then hiding in a fox hole isn't going to be enough to achieve the objective in question. In those cases camping becomes a liability, not at strength.
Spawn camping is different though. It is exploiting a bug that designers really need to find ways to prevent. It is cheating, simple, but shouldn't be linked to a strategic defence.
Camping is legitimate. The people who camp generally don't get as many kills as the aggressive players with skill. At the same time though they don't get nearly as many deaths either.
As far a MW2 is concerned, because of the kill cam camping is a losing strategy. Every time i ambush kill anyone i move to a different location because one fo the first things i do when i get killed by a camper is head back for some sweet revenge.
As far a MW2 is concerned, because of the kill cam camping is a losing strategy. Every time i ambush kill anyone i move to a different location because one fo the first things i do when i get killed by a camper is head back for some sweet revenge.
The idea of getting aggravated over camping is laudable. So someone is staying in one location? In any competent game there are half a dozen ways to remove them. Its not a problem. Also, I particularly enjoy it when (in MW2) I am defending a bomb zone from being defused, manage to kill a couple. Only to be screamed at about how much of a *insert any swear word* camper I am.
meh. Camping is fine (bearing in mind i play Tf2 a lot.) If it is actually helping your team achieve their main goal. An example of this is snipers on 2fort. If they keep the enemy snipers busy, or even those attempting to cap the intel, then fine, im cool with that. however, i think that camping in the sewers in completely rediculous, unless its an engi/demo. tha mount of times I have seen soldiers hang around the enemies sewers attempting to get cheap kills is unbelievable.
Oh, and people dont try to spawn camp against me. I play pyro.
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Oh, and people dont try to spawn camp against me. I play pyro.
rosac
Here are the problems with campers-Miki91 said:
On free-for-all games, well, what if everybody camped? There would be no game. The justification "it's a valid tactic" fails because it's only a valid tactic if a minority of players is doing it. Otherwise, it's just a waste of everybody's time.
That's why *good* games are designed to make camping ineffective.
On some team games- Even if your personal K/D ratio is higher, if you're not getting a _lot_ of kills, then you're probably bringing down your team's K/D ratio by not helping them more directly. That's why I don't try sniping a lot in Halo- I'm not good enough to justify leaving my team otherwise outnumbered 3-4.
I agree. The idea of getting aggravated over camping is worthy of praise.Deofuta said:
While I'm not a fan of camping in general. I often forget who or what killed me while re-spawning, so I forget where they are, and they just kill me over and over. But that's more my problem with memory and not camping.
Spawn-Campers are fun. If you can get around them, getting the kill is satisfying and sometimes hilarious.
Spawn-Campers are fun. If you can get around them, getting the kill is satisfying and sometimes hilarious.