Poll: Camping: Whats the big deal?

[Hazy]

Camping - Fine.
Camping where we respawn, and where we can be killed instantly - Not alright.

If anyone gives you shit, they're complaining over nothing - as THEY have the upper hand in the instance.
[sub]Meaning, you know where they're stationed, and assuming you know the map, have knowledge of their blind spots, and how to dispatch them easier.[/sub]

 

[War Penguin]

There are some moments when I think it IS legitimate, and there are some moments when I think it's cheap. If you have a sniper or are guarding a base, then yes, camping is a legitimate strategy. If it's anything other than that, I consider it cheap.

 

[angryscotsman93]

I've never understood the stigma involving true camping either. Now, spawn camping? Sure, fuck those guys! But camping an objective, camping an important area that the enemy is almost certain to cross? That's just good tactics. After all, you KNOW where they're going to be, you KNOW they'll have other things occupying their thoughts, and you KNOW that you'll have plenty of time to set up where you'll never be noticed. So long as it's not overlooking a spawn point, then it's fine.

I think the problem is that people who run 'n gun in the streets get pissed off when someone ices them by using a different tactic which fits them. After all, they figure, it MUST be cheating if someone has the audacity to fight differently!

And this isn't a new thing in REGULAR war, either. For a very long time, snipers and other "campers" have been the most hated individuals in warfare, to the point where anyone who waits in a hidden spot and shoots unexpectedly at enemy troops is immediately considered an enemy sniper. Due to this stigma, very few of these 'snipers' ever reach a prison camp. At least not alive.

 

[Jonci]

I'll camp when I find a good spot with clear view of areas the enemy will travel. No real combat involves everyone running around hoping to out-shoot the next person they see. So my usual tactic, get out of sight where I can get some good kills. After 3-5 when I think they'll catch on, camp the path they'll take to sneak up on me because one of them is going to think they'll get an easy camper kill. Then I change locations.

 

[sabotstarr]

it's very reasonable,
unless it's in a team objective match, then it becomes a cheap gimmick,only because people can get the objectives and not move while others spawn and die instantly.

Only applies to spawn camping, or camping the oppositions thing, like the other teams flag in capture the flag, not only is it unfair, but kinda defeats the purpose of the game type.

 

[Brnin8]

I have always had this thought that if everyone camped online (and I do mean everyone) no one would ever see another character as they would all be in separate corners of the map...
OT: I am not a fan of camping but it does not bother me that much.

 

[TheFacelessOne]

It's the spawncamping that causes a problem.

But I agree, it's like ambushing. Over, and over, and over again...

Plus, it's amusing to watch people continuously die and they are just crying and wondering who the hell are where the hell...

Ah...good times...

 

[Assassin Xaero]

So I was wondering, what is the big problem with this?

I'll use Call of Duty as an example. When I get killed by the same person in the same spot 3 times, it is annoying. Some are complete morons because I throw a grenade and kill them and they say "how did you know I was there?". Which is why I love martyrdom. Camper inside the window, they kill me, nade kills them because they don't know how to move. If someone is doing it for 10-20 seconds, it isn't bad, but when someone kills me and they sit in the same place for 5 minutes then kill me again it is annoying. Especially when they go back there after they die, or whine about martyrdom.

One of the most annoying things ever was CoD4 on shipment, there were campers with M60's spraying on all of the spawn points.

 

[jimtheviking]

This has been said a bunch of times, but I figure I should reiterate:

Camping good.

Spawn Camping bad.

That is all.

 

[almostgold]

OK Camping: Sitting at top of a staircase with a shotgun knowing people will come up for a good sniper spot. I do this a lot.

Bad Camping: Lying prone in a room with no windows dual wielding 1887s with two sentry guns staring at the only entrance to the room (actually happened to me)

Not Camping: Sniping from a fixed position

 

[Xeros]

I have no problem with it provided you're not spawn camping.

 

[angryscotsman93]

It's cheap. Hiding and waiting for your enemy, kill then stay in the same spot?
Not cool man, not cool.

I call bullshit, it's a legitimate tactic so long as it's not at a spawnpoint. After all, you're just waiting for someone to wander into your sights. If they can kill you first, then congrats. If they can't, then oh well, they tried.

'camping' in a team game is just a tactic. For example, in MW2 Domination, my tactic is to take up a defensive position near an objective my team took and just keep the enemy from taking control. Not only do I get kills, but it helps my team. Furthermore, that's what a REAL soldier would do, given the situation. You shouldn't ostracize a player because they understand a tactical situation and use it to their advantage.

 

[Treblaine]

Well you just try playing Sniper, Engineer or Spy WITHOUT "camping".

I don't even have a particular problem with spawn camping as long as it doesn't happen all the time. Some classes it is practically their bread and butter is to wait at the spawn.

It is pretty cheap sometimes for a demoman to cover a spawn exit with pipes.

Camping was a term invented when a whole too many noobs played too many straight team-deathmatch games and got the idea that aggression = skill.

 

[Chicago Ted]

Campers annoy the hell out of me in certain games. I like Bad Company for this though. Some asshole camping in a building waiting for you to come through a door? Just blow the building apart around him, let's see how he deals with THAT.

 

[timmytom1]

I`ll say what most other people seem to be saying in that by and large it`s a valid tactic ,games where you can spawncamp however...

 

[p3t3r]

hate it stupid people in corners

 

[Nex-Falx]

There are only two types of camping I can't stand... Spawn camping, as everyone has pointed out, blows.

The one I truly hate is what I call "corner camping" where it's not even a "defensive position" camp. It's just that you have a 50/50 of picking the wrong corner to check as you move into a room, and some guy obliterates you with his UMP while he hides in the corner of the room.

That being said, I'm mostly a sniper, so I hear alot of incorrect labeling when I lead the room in kills. If you catch my drift.

 

[TundraWolf]

Let me explain my thought process through a video game analogy:

You're playing a competitive multiplayer game online (Modern Warfare 2, Team Fortress 2, whatever). You run around a corner and get shot and die without seeing where the person is. You watch the KillCam and realize that they are sitting on top of the building you just ran around. Fine, let's go and try and flush them out. You go and attempt to kill them, taking the same route and looking into the sky. You toss a grenade on the roof. Nothing. You assume they moved on. You turn away, catching a glimpse of the player as you turn. They react before you do, and you die and respawn again.

Now, at this point, the intelligent player would think to themselves, "Alright, well let's try and sneak up on them from a different way." So you go around the back way to there. Maybe you encounter (and possibly die from) a claymore. You either respawn and go back again, or you evade said claymore, sneak up on the player and knife them. Simple.

Basically, I don't understand why people complain about "camping". If you continually die from someone staying in the same spot the entire match, you're doing it wrong.

Also, snipers, by their nature, have to "camp". But you don't hear people complaining about that, now do you? As long as your gun has a scope on it, "camping" becomes a perfectly reasonably strategy. Hell, it's expected. So where's the line?

(Like everyone else, I think that "spawn-camping" is just bad play. But that just goes without saying.)