Poll: cloning of people

[AvsJoe]

Cloning is a tough issue, especially with the various legal and moral issues (do clones have rights? Should we treat them equally?) but we should at least try to develop the technology. Cloning can be used to solve many problems (including every medical problem) and that alone would be worth the effort. At least in my opinion, anyway.

 

[siege_1302]

i don't care if i get probation for this i have only one thing to say to you, FUCK YOU! Clones could turn on us at any time their actions unpredictable, and if you have a clone army what happens if they turn on us? That is a really genius idea

Well, Mr Genius, I don't recall where I said we'd have a clone army, but if we did, I'm sure if we treated them with compassion they could be grateful enough to overcome their innate, hollywood evil clone nature and NOT kill everyone.

Or we could just keep them in a vat and harvest the organs. Not like they have to walk about much, just floating in a vat a la Luke Skywalker in the second Star Wars. And we dip in and take their organs.

 

[Jedisolo75]

I'm all about cloning organs, but actual people? It seems like it isn't worth the hassle when making babies naturally is so much more fun.

 

[DazBurger]

Why not? I mean, besides the religious opposition of "Playing God" do we really have a reason not to clone people?

We are allready too many, so why make more?

Meh, im not into cloning people. But cant see why we cant make organs, replacement-limbs, etc...

 

[LornMind]

Cloning is an interesting concept. I think though, if you were to clone someone, this person that is being cloned would already be sufficiently matured to realize the process. That means that this person would be somewhere in the ballpark of 30-40, meaning that when their clone is at last born, it won't know it's a clone for the first few years of it's life. By the time it can synthesize the magnitude of the situation and realize that they have an origin that is exactly like them (genetically) then they will be old enough by then to understand it and their origin will be approaching 40-50. The actual overlap between the clone and cloned coexisting would therefore drop to about 20-30 years.

But really, I think cloning body parts and organs is a more lucrative idea.

 

[Nukey]

maybe for military purposes, but in peace time it would just be creepy.

 

[siege_1302]

A human could do much better than an omnipotent being, right?

People that kill eachother, everyday.

Even though I have no idea how eating babies and harvesting organs counts as playing god. XD

Nice avatar you have there, too. Chaos FTW.

Thanks for the compliment, Chaos is indeed FTW.

Well, seeing as it'd be humans actually doing the cloning it's moot. Plus, I think god is responsible for more widespread destruction (allegedly, but keep it to PM if you want to debate this) than any one human so morally we hold the high ground. If you give a tinker's toss about morals.

To my mind, injecting morals into the debate makes it much more complicated for not much reason. I just don't see how it's a moral issue.

You can say the clones are theoretically people, in which case most 'moral' people would need to defend them and their existance. Or, you could say they're not really people because they were grown in a vat as opposed to a womb and then open up a debate of EPIC PROPORTIONS as to what it means to be a person.

 

[Commander Melander]

no because for every clone you have its gonna be even worse when a zombie out break happens true story

 

[skywalkerlion]

A human could do much better than an omnipotent being, right?

People that kill eachother, everyday.

Even though I have no idea how eating babies and harvesting organs counts as playing god. XD

Nice avatar you have there, too. Chaos FTW.

Thanks for the compliment, Chaos is indeed FTW.

Well, seeing as it'd be humans actually doing the cloning it's moot. Plus, I think god is responsible for more widespread destruction (allegedly, but keep it to PM if you want to debate this) than any one human so morally we hold the high ground. If you give a tinker's toss about morals.

To my mind, injecting morals into the debate makes it much more complicated for not much reason. I just don't see how it's a moral issue.

You can say the clones are theoretically people, in which case most 'moral' people would need to defend them and their existance. Or, you could say they're not really people because they were grown in a vat as opposed to a womb and then open up a debate of EPIC PROPORTIONS as to what it means to be a person.

I can see where you come from, cause I agree with you on this. I just think that most humans simply can't handle the power and responsibility that comes upon humanity, when we can clone armies. That thought just scares me. It's kinda why I don't want AI to accelerate to super crazy ways, to the point where we have sentient robots on our hands, which I'd rather live without.

 

[G1eet]

Why not? I mean, besides the religious opposition of "Playing God" do we really have a reason not to clone people?

Say they're initially created for lab testing, a la The Island. What do we do when the problem of ethics comes up?

Besides, I already have enough of me's around the world.

We already have a plan to... I've said too much.

 

[duchaked]

Personally, I would love to clone myself and have a million Kims.

Then I could finally have my own army!! Muahahaha!
[http://photobucket.com/images/clone%20trooper%20army]

yes, that is the only reason/way I'd agree to cloning lol...

but no seriously, if you read the clone wars star wars novels (great stuff btw) they really dig deep into the ethics of cloning and treating them as humans or not...oh wow I'm such a star wars geek

 

[wizzerd229]

looking at this thread makes me relize how much entertainment has confused the average gamer/nerd about cloning. sigh

 

[park92]

what's the point? unless its like cloning organs we really dont need more people

 

[Tdc2182]

Use them to test on since we all know clones don't a have souls.

 

[dnnydllr]

Why not? I mean, besides the religious opposition of "Playing God" do we really have a reason not to clone people?

One argument I hear often used is that they will be used for organ harvesting. Think about it; anyone who could afford it would have clones made of themselves who would be perfect blood, organ, marrow, you name it donors for them. They would keep this clones in captivity until they needed an organ, at which time the clones would be forced to go through with the transplant.

 

[dnnydllr]

Use them to test on since we all know clones don't a have souls.

Or do they O__O
How do we know that when one makes a clone of themselves their soul isn't ripped in half and they live out the rest of their lives as a cruel and unusual individual?

 

[Tdc2182]

Use them to test on since we all know clones don't a have souls.

Or do they O__O
How do we know that when one makes a clone of themselves their soul isn't ripped in half and they live out the rest of their lives as a cruel and unusual individual?

hmm... your not bad dnnydllr, not bad at all. I have to think, I'll be in my lair.

 

[Gaderael]

I'm all for cloning

I'm all for cloning

I'm all for cloning

I'm all for cloning

I'm all for cloning

I'm all for cloning

I'm all for cloning. Think about it. You're in a car wreck, and you need a new organ. No problem, just clone one. Zero percent chance organ rejection, no need to be on immuno-suppressants for the rest of your life. You just have the transplant and off you go. Eventually they could develop a way to transfer all memory and learned skills from your elderly brain into a fresh new body cloned to the age of your choice. Immortality anyone?

 

[Enzeru92]

I say yes to cloning simply to create my clone army for World Domination
in all seriousness i think its not much of a bad idea if it wasn't used for idiots