Daystar Clarion said:
All of my friends were smacked as a child. We're talking about slaps around the thighs and arse, not punches to the face. We're all happy go lucky and cheerful people. The problem with studies is that anyone can formulate another and get the exact opposite outcome. I don't consider myself psychologically scarred or anyything like that. I agree, belts and other utensils is taking a but too far, but sometimes the only way to get a child to stop doing something is to inflict pain, no matter how slight it is. My parents always apologised to me and I sometimes wonder how things would have turned out differently if I was never smacked. But at the end of the day, despite all my flaws, I like myself and I thank my parents for making me the way I am today.
Did you reply to the wrong post? I never made any comment towards punches to the face or using other objects to punish.
I never said it was impossible to not be happy and cheerful if you were smacked as I child and that you would be forever scarred by the experience, I just said out of the people I know, those that were not smacked were better mentally than the ones that were.
I know that studies can be easily manipulated, so I make sure not to trust them if:
The sample size is too small or chosen in a way to induce a naturally biased group;
The ones doing the study are biased towards the outcome of the study;
The conclusion is the only reasonable one you can make from the data.
If you have any studies that do not fall to these three faults and says that corporal punishment is effective, show them to me.
Similarly, if you have any evidence to back up the claim that pain is sometimes the only way, show it to me.
I have little problem with you looking up to your parents for smacking you. I have a problem, however, that I believe you will also smack your children. Although you believe you will be helping them, you will still be inflicting intentional pain onto a child in a situation where it was unnecessary.
[small]P.S. Those mistakes were annoying me.
Edit: and you fixed them while I was still typing[/small]
[sub]P.P.S. I wish I could find 'Dogbert's "School of Hard Knocks"' on-line, would make my point easier to express.[/sub]