Poll: Does Batman really need Robin?

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Zeromaeus

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Mustardcat666 said:
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Batman isanything but crazy, to be honest.

But hey, why can't Robin work?
He doesn't have to be the goofy boy wonder, look at how Batman has evolved across the ages.
Actually, batman is certifiably insane, and many of the comic writers of recent years have stressed this. Its also part of his relationship with the Joker: the Joker is really just Batman with a different focus (Batman is focused on absolute Justice, while the Joker is... well, Joker).

And WHICH Robin would you recommend, OP? There's been several, all with different personalities.
I'd like to see the pre-ressurected Jason Todd Robin. He'd fit into the movies because he was very undiciplined and violent. Plus he gets beaten to near death with a crow bar and blown up!
By... oh crap. That won't work.

Samurai Goomba said:
Robin was awesome. Those who hate Robin probably missed out on the Dixon Nightwing comics, the Robin comic series, and Teen Titans.

Hate the people who failed at portraying the character properly, don't hate the character himself. In my opinion, someone like Robin (who isn't a sociopath) offers a level of depth to the Batman universe. Plus, you can actually identify with Robin where it isn't really possible with Bats. I mean, I've never felt anything Batman did or said was something I could see myself doing or saying. His refusal to kill and use firearms, for example, paints him as a massive idiot. If only because asylums are powerless to actually hold criminals in the Batman universe, anyway.
Fixed and agreed with, for the most part.
 

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Ive seen people saying that the current batman need robin to sort of act as a anchor for Batman and keep him flying strait and true.. I respond that the other character are doing that...

So I voted for Bat Girl because I like girls in Tight clothes....

Now if they added Robin in and DIDEN'T give him tights... Id be ok with it. Make it his Nickname or something. Perhaps another Alfred style character, that might be a nice spin on the lore. But Batman is enough.
 

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To be in all serious and being a hardcore Batman fan I have say Robin does not fit in right now with this series of movies becauses its just right after he got into character and Robin is just there to help out but no sir no sir. Robin is very cool but just not now maybe if they made a dark robin like in the comics like an older Tim Drake because he would be the best but if they wanna go in order start with Grayson and just foreget about Jason Todd cause he was not worth mentioning at all even though he died by the Joker. So hey its hollywood they do what they want
 

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"Does Batman really need Robin?"

Better question: does Robin really need Batman?
I liked the recent movie's "The Dark Knight Returns"-style take on the vigilante copycatism that might generate someone like Robin. People are more likely to emulate Batman by dressing up AS Batman. And Batman is more likely to hand those people over to the authorities than to take them under his wing. Why, they're vigilantes after all. That's against the law! ;D

So in reality, if Robin really was the truly intelligent contender for the Batman throne, a cut above the rest in both skill and creativity...then why on Earth would he think tagging along with Batman himself is a good idea?? Seems like a poor career decision to me.
 

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I like how high tacos is.
Frankly, kinda akin to Yahtzee's criticism of the character, I'm more interested in the bad guys than the good ones, there.
But does Batman need Robin?
Yes, for all those cold Gotham nights ;-).
 

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Grand_Marquis said:
"Does Batman really need Robin?"

Better question: does Robin really need Batman?
I liked the recent movie's "The Dark Knight Returns"-style take on the vigilante copycatism that might generate someone like Robin. People are more likely to emulate Batman by dressing up AS Batman. And Batman is more likely to hand those people over to the authorities than to take them under his wing. Why, they're vigilantes after all. That's against the law! ;D

So in reality, if Robin really was the truly intelligent contender for the Batman throne, a cut above the rest in both skill and creativity...then why on Earth would he think tagging along with Batman himself is a good idea?? Seems like a poor career decision to me.
But what if he was good enough that he can contend with crime and Batman on a level that impresses the bat. I dunno. Just thinking along that line...
 

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Blindswordmaster said:
Movie Bob said something during his review of The Losers that made me cringe: he actually proposed that the current Batman movie series should have Robin. I don't think that Batman needs Robin. Robin makes him less dark and brooding. Robin makes Batman family friendly. Batman is crazy, determined, and kinda sadistic. Robin waters him down, makes him less awesome. Do you want Batman to have Robin? Would you still watch the current Batman movies if they introduced Robin? No flaming, no trolling, just polite debate. Go.
There is a site that catelogues several of the many, many double entendre's implying homosexuality between Batman and Robin, but I cannot in good conscience post a link to it, as several of the ads on the site give viruses and other problems these days.
 

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RelexCryo said:
Blindswordmaster said:
Movie Bob said something during his review of The Losers that made me cringe: he actually proposed that the current Batman movie series should have Robin. I don't think that Batman needs Robin. Robin makes him less dark and brooding. Robin makes Batman family friendly. Batman is crazy, determined, and kinda sadistic. Robin waters him down, makes him less awesome. Do you want Batman to have Robin? Would you still watch the current Batman movies if they introduced Robin? No flaming, no trolling, just polite debate. Go.
There is a site that catelogues several of the many, many double entendre's implying homosexuality between Batman and Robin, but I cannot in good conscience post a link to it, as several of the ads on the site give viruses and other problems these days.
Superdickery?
 

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Judging by the path and tone the movies have taken so far, i would only expect Robin to be brought into it as a non superhero character. Most likely to control batman due to the likely death of Alfred, because honestly im putting my money on him being killed in the next movie. Which will probably be due to Batman for some reason or something causing him to relive the death of his parents sending him over the edge blah blah blah. You can probably tell what im getting at.
 

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see the problem with robin is that they always make him a child. Yes i know he is one but thats dont mean he should act like one if you know what i mean. Robin is added so the kids have something to relate to unless ur a brooding man with obsession with bats. I dont think robin should be in the next movie unless. However, they cant make him too dark or hell be just batman but smaller, pretty much making him pointless. If they were to put robin in the next movie they should make him dark but not so dark that there isnt a contrast between him and batman. at the same time they cant make him to light and happy cause it simply muddies batman and the whole dark and edgy thing hes got going.
 

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Though I am perfectly content with Batman going solo. I think it is more than possible to write Robin in, and make him every bit as dark as Batman. It has to be done properly, but i think it could work. Heaven for-fend if we ever get another "Batman and Robin" movie that was a total joke. I can even watch the first 5 minutes of that ...thing.
 

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DragonChi said:
Though I am perfectly content with Batman going solo. I think it is more than possible to write Robin in, and make him every bit as dark as Batman. It has to be done properly, but i think it could work. Heaven for-fend if we ever get another "Batman and Robin" movie that was a total joke. I can even watch the first 5 minutes of that ...thing.
What were they even thinking in that movie?
Then again. They messed up everything about those movies, almost...
 

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Zeromaeus said:
DragonChi said:
Though I am perfectly content with Batman going solo. I think it is more than possible to write Robin in, and make him every bit as dark as Batman. It has to be done properly, but i think it could work. Heaven for-fend if we ever get another "Batman and Robin" movie that was a total joke. I can even watch the first 5 minutes of that ...thing.
What were they even thinking in that movie?
Then again. They messed up everything about those movies, almost...
i doubt very much ANY "thinking" was taking place in the development of that waste of space. It went down hill after Batman Returns.I still love the first one that Tim Burton made.
 

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Zeromaeus said:
Fixed and agreed with, for the most part.
In Bludhaven they have prisons. Those don't work any better than Arkham. Just sayin' it isn't always an asylum. Only 99.9% of the time.

Which reminds me, why does Bats think it's a good idea to keep sending The Joker to the same insane asylum he keeps escaping from over and over? Batman could drive across the state line and get Joker thrown in an actual prison. Or tie him up and ditch him in a bad part of Tijuana. Or just kill the freaking idiot, like he should be doing with ANY villain who has proven he/she is capable of committing premeditated murder. This is the whole reason why people (like me) think Bats is a sociopathic kook, and why I welcome the injection of some humanity and pathos into the storyline.
 

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1) Robin fulfills Batman's moral need to take care of people in a different way than beating the shit out of them. He also realises that the first Robin (Dick Grayson) is similar to him and thus doesn't want him to turn out the same.

2) Robin grounds Batman, makes sure he doesn't become evil or psycho. Basically makes him happy.

3) Batgirl is just cheesecake, but I want her too.