Poll: Don?t restrict my gaming purchases! Sub question why is sex conidered worse than violence?

[fluffylandmine]

To respond to the origin of this topic..

Deal with it. Games shouldn't be this important in someone's life.

We did that one on like page 2 or something.

it might of been 3

yay 69th post is a quote! hah 69...

 

[DeadlyFred]

Why must you censor (censure) me?!

... and don't be trying none of that freaky crap with me, mister.

 

[Dr_Baron_von_Evilsatan]

To respond to the origin of this topic..

Deal with it. Games shouldn't be this important in someones life.

Understandably, you haven't slogged through this thread. But just so you know, logic does not apply here. If it did, you'd be right in just about every way possible.

I did actually slog through it(as much as it pained me).

To respond to the origin of this topic..

Deal with it. Games shouldn't be this important in someone's life.

We did that one on like page 2 or something.

Yes you did, but I was just reinstating the opinion.

 

[massuh]

To respond to the origin of this topic..

Deal with it. Games shouldn't be this important in someone's life.

STFU. WTF did you came from? And no we don't care what you say and yes you can go and stab your face as many times as you like.

we all know that nobody is dying from not playing a M+ rated game you can get it anyways that is not the friking point.

 

[DeadlyFred]

Much like life itself, internet forum debate is rarely about the destination (aka: point) so much as the journey itself (see also: a dozen pages of random nonsensical garbage). :zen:

Shhh, take your pills, Massuh.

 

[fluffylandmine]

To respond to the origin of this topic..

Deal with it. Games shouldn't be this important in someone's life.

STFU. WTF did you came from? And no we don't care what you say and yes you can go and stab your face as many times as you like.

we all know that nobody is dying from not playing a M+ rated game you can get it anyways that is not the friking point.

where the fuck did you come from all of a sudden

 

[massuh]

Much like life itself, internet forum debate is rarely about the destination so much as the journey itself. :zen:

Shhh, take your pills, Massuh.

Okay... It's that I always forgot were i put them...

 

[Saevus]

Much like life itself, internet forum debate is rarely about the destination (aka: point) so much as the journey itself (see also: a dozen pages of random nonsensical garbage). :zen:

I'd like to get to the destination of one of the objectivists telling me why, rationally, a store should risk losing business for a far smaller portion of their customers' vanity and convenience.


Edit: the 'far smaller portion of their customers' vanity and convenience' refers to young teens that don't think they should need a parent to buy their shooters for them.

 

[Dr_Baron_von_Evilsatan]

To respond to the origin of this topic..

Deal with it. Games shouldn't be this important in someone's life.

STFU. WTF did you came from? And no we don't care what you say and yes you can go and stab your face as many times as you like.

we all know that nobody is dying from not playing a M+ rated game you can get it anyways that is not the friking point.

The great thing about the internet is that there is always a place for you to apply your opinion. The bad thing about the internet is that there is a guarantee that someone will yell at you for having an opinion that isn't exactly theirs.

My post in this thread was meant to say that I do find most of this discussion/argument pointless. Take it or leave it, that is what I have to say. I apologize for making you mad.

 

[fluffylandmine]

subjcetive little commies tryin tah take mah freedum!

 

[DeadlyFred]

Much like life itself, internet forum debate is rarely about the destination (aka: point) so much as the journey itself (see also: a dozen pages of random nonsensical garbage). :zen:

I'd like to get to the destination of one of the objectivists telling me why, rationally, a store should risk losing business for a far smaller portion of their customers' vanity and convenience.

Simple: delinquent parents buy more crap at Wal-mart than their discontented children do. You tell me which demographic is more important to keep happy.

 

[massuh]

Much like life itself, internet forum debate is rarely about the destination (aka: point) so much as the journey itself (see also: a dozen pages of random nonsensical garbage). :zen:

I'd like to get to the destination of one of the objectivists telling me why, rationally, a store should risk losing business for a far smaller portion of their customers' vanity and convenience.

It depends on the store there are lot's of kids buying games now a days. And you argument doesn't really make sense.

why? I'll tell you why: because the kid that goes and buys an M+ title from your store doesn't have gamer parents! so, the kid is still going to your store. And unless a gamer around the age of 25 years old have a strong support for ERSB you are not going to lose buyers.

 

[scoobyduped]

Just a personal story, but I'm 16, and don't think I look much older. About a month ago I went into a Best Buy, and was able to purchase a copy of CoD4, without any issues. Sure it's not GTA 4, but it's still rated M, so they should still check my ID. But the guy even asked me if I was sure I didn't want to buy Ninja Gaiden 2 instead. Maybe the guy who got it down from the gamecage was just cool, maybe it's just that one store, maybe I do look a little older than 16. But it seems to me that at most game stores, restricting the purchase of M rated games is at most treated as a formality (I have to or I'll lose my job), and at least, treated as a joke. Or in this case, not treated at all.

But yeah, I don't think the purchase of M rated games should be restricted. I mean, the parental permission for younger kids is a good thing, but if you're old enough to get to Best Buy (or Gamestop or wherever) on your own, you're probably old enough to handle an M rated game.

 

[massuh]

To respond to the origin of this topic..

Deal with it. Games shouldn't be this important in someone's life.

STFU. WTF did you came from? And no we don't care what you say and yes you can go and stab your face as many times as you like.

yeah I'm sorry for that dude I over reacted but is that this is a gamers forum you know! you have to love games till death ? or something (?)

again sorry...


we all know that nobody is dying from not playing a M+ rated game you can get it anyways that is not the friking point.

The great thing about the internet is that there is always a place for you to apply your opinion. The bad thing about the internet is that there is a guarantee that someone will yell at you for having an opinion that isn't exactly theirs.

My post in this thread was meant to say that I do find most of this discussion/argument pointless. Take it or leave it, that is what I have to say. I apologize for making you mad.[/quote]

 

[Saevus]

Much like life itself, internet forum debate is rarely about the destination (aka: point) so much as the journey itself (see also: a dozen pages of random nonsensical garbage). :zen:

I'd like to get to the destination of one of the objectivists telling me why, rationally, a store should risk losing business for a far smaller portion of their customers' vanity and convenience.

Simple: delinquent parents buy more crap at Wal-mart than their discontented children do. You tell me which demographic is more important to keep happy.

That's what I'm saying. This objectivist is claiming there shouldn't be regulations on gaming purchases, but that flies in the face of rational, capitalistic thought for the simple reason you've stated.

Edit: the 'far smaller portion of their customers' vanity and convenience' refers to young teens that don't think they should need a parent to buy their shooters for them.

 

[DeadlyFred]

Oh, so we're agreeing then? Bonus.

 

[Saevus]

Much like life itself, internet forum debate is rarely about the destination (aka: point) so much as the journey itself (see also: a dozen pages of random nonsensical garbage). :zen:

I'd like to get to the destination of one of the objectivists telling me why, rationally, a store should risk losing business for a far smaller portion of their customers' vanity and convenience.

It depends on the store there are lot's of kids buying games now a days. And you argument doesn't really make sense.

why? I'll tell you why: because the kid that goes and buys an M+ title from your store doesn't have gamer parents! so, the kid is still going to your store. And unless a gamer around the age of 25 years old have a strong support for ERSB you are not going to lose buyers.

You aren't even beginning to make sense. Games constitute how much money an electronics store makes compared to iPods, televisions, speakers, business laptops, etc.? And kids aren't even the primary demographic for games to be sold to - someone more in the college age range is what's aimed for.

Kids aren't big customers. Parents are. So why should any store that gets a lot of business from adults risk pissing them off for the sake of catering to kids' convenience? The ESRB informs the parents, so that the onus is on them for the purchase. If a store properly explains why the parent has to buy the game and not the kid, then they're way less likely to alienate a real customer - not one that'll spend around $500 at the store over a year.

 

[massuh]

saevus is there is a store in your same town that sells a M+ game to a minor and that kid can't get it in your store the he's going there. if you sell a kid a M+ game, who is going to complain? tell me that. I mean. you don't care about the kids parents they don't buy games. if they did the kid would already have the game at his house. And I don't think that any gamer takes the ESRB seriously they don't even take them selfs seriously.

EDIT: wow I'm out of place here (?) I was talking about freaking game stores... no about damn home depots and electronic shops.

 

[DeadlyFred]

My post in this thread was meant to say that I do find most of this discussion/argument pointless. Take it or leave it, that is what I have to say. I apologize for making you mad.

Internet forums are the MMORPG of the pseudo-intellectual masses.

 

[fluffylandmine]

ok let's all agree: the ESRB has issues, parents need to be responsible, people shouldn't be suing for only getting one sweet-n-low packet, corps. have money in mind and try to look moral, saevus is a little militant in his approach, and you should be able to get a game when your ready for it, pandas will kill us all in the end, and all this is not a big deal in the bigger picture.