I live in maine, where we have a well oiled social services. Absenty parents arn't parents for long.
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Post has been revised by the Department of Clarity and rated WTF by the ESRB.Not a Spy post=9.68355.626241 said:
AYN RAND!! YEAHHHH someone who understands my screen name at last.Saevus post=9.68355.626247 said:
This is quite a monstrous thread we have managed here. In fact it may now be self sustaining not unlike a neutron star. I don't think we can stop it.
could we posably discontinue atacking each other. I have no problem with it, yet i don't want the topic closed because of it, because i am enjoying the descusion.
I like Colton's arguments for welfare. He is clearly in touch with those who live below the poverty line, especially those of the densely populated cities. He knows their desires and needs, he knows each and every one of their situations. He is also clearly fiscally responsible, as he would propose cutting money from a major government program in order to fund a special interests program that would target a small portion of the population. It is the wisdom of all sixteen of his years that guides him so.
I, however, who attended inner city public school for my 12 required education years, and went to school with welfare kids, and saw and know them as human beings who have, by and large, with a few notable exceptions, the same goals and morals as the rest of society, am clearly misguided in my thought that when presented with situations, we are forced to act in reaction to those situations, and the avenues available are dictated by circumstance, not by sheer force of will alone.
I love people who like Ayn Rand. They live in this weird bubble, where they believe that people who are poor choose to live in that way, because of some sweet benefit they get. There's no on/off switch for being poor. If there was, we'd all be millionaires. And we can't all live off the charity of the rich and powerful, like Miss Rand did.
I, however, who attended inner city public school for my 12 required education years, and went to school with welfare kids, and saw and know them as human beings who have, by and large, with a few notable exceptions, the same goals and morals as the rest of society, am clearly misguided in my thought that when presented with situations, we are forced to act in reaction to those situations, and the avenues available are dictated by circumstance, not by sheer force of will alone.
I love people who like Ayn Rand. They live in this weird bubble, where they believe that people who are poor choose to live in that way, because of some sweet benefit they get. There's no on/off switch for being poor. If there was, we'd all be millionaires. And we can't all live off the charity of the rich and powerful, like Miss Rand did.
Wow, that's how the internet works? Dang, I've been doing it wrong.Not a Spy post=9.68355.626253 said:
i have opinions, even if i am 16. I pay taxes on stuff just like the rest of you, i deserve comment. And the fact that i am able to continue on in this conversation is a counterexample to that arguement[/quote]
1º you have opinions that aren't considered
2º the money that comes from the taxes of the stuff you buy is given by your parents
3º ok comment, but don't comment on things like how to handle a country when you don't even have a family of finished your freking hi-school i don't freaking care if you have an IQ of 123123 and have studied a book that is named "How to run a country" years of live experience are much more valuable
1º you have opinions that aren't considered
2º the money that comes from the taxes of the stuff you buy is given by your parents
3º ok comment, but don't comment on things like how to handle a country when you don't even have a family of finished your freking hi-school i don't freaking care if you have an IQ of 123123 and have studied a book that is named "How to run a country" years of live experience are much more valuable
YAY TAXES! OR AS I CALL IT "GIVING MY MONEY TO IMBISILES SO THEY CAN GO TO CANCUAN MEXICO AN GET INTO A SCANDAL AND THEN GET PUT ON TRIAL FOR GOD KNOWS WHY AND THEN MY WHAT'S LEFT GOES TO GUNS AND OIL!" WOO!
yep i still got it
yep i still got it
My dad did grow up pore, yet now he lives in his two houses. He earned that money and there is no question about it. My dad is not special, anyone can.
P.S. Mrss. Rand had all of her posessions conficated by the communists at the age of six, and worked to earn them back.
P.S. Mrss. Rand had all of her posessions conficated by the communists at the age of six, and worked to earn them back.
Perhaps you need a refresher on your objectivist history, as Mrs. Rand was born in soviet Russia and escaped to America to become a great mind of the 20th century. Welfare destroys incentives and moral rationalizations for it's implementations are hollowHobbesMkii post=9.68355.626269 said: