Poll: Drivers under the age of 25 banned from driving after 10pm

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geon106

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It is a good idea as it'll get the wheel spin crew off the streets at night, the ones who are responsible for under 25 male drivers bad reps.

But, i am against it for 2 reasons:

1) its really unfair for safe drivers like myself
2) i can't see how you'd enforce it
 

Kif

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Initially I thought yes for a couple of reasons.

Firstly I'm 26 so it wouldn't apply to me.

Secondly I've had no accidents and no points in all the years I've been driving so I consider myself a reasonable driver and I am beyond sick and tired of chav boy racer pillocks on the road assuming that I will race them, doing dangerous overtaking on roundabouts and alike while they race each other, making noise in nearby carparks until all hours of the morning.

Also it is a little sexist to assume only young men are dangerous behind the wheel.

However, it would never work because it would generate far too much hassle and work to be properly policed. They'd have to pull people who look young over and ID them (probably including me), and there'd be plenty of people out there who just ignore the law (probably the kind of people I've described above) and mostly because like myself not everyone who drove between the ages of 17 and 25 are complete a-holes on the road.

The whole thing sounds like a nightmare.
 

Exocet

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What would happen to males under 25 who work night-shifts and go home early in the morning by car?
I can only imagine a cop telling some poor bastard:"I'm sorry sir,you're going to have to stop and sleep in your car"

This truly made my day.
 

Mstrswrd

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I really think it should be all people 18-14. That includes women, because, lets face it, if they just got their liscense, they could just as easily go out and do something stupid, even if statistically, they aren't as likely. In response to that argument, though, I'd say, "Please, visit any college in the US, Canada, the UK, Australia, or pretty much anywhere."

Other than that, even as a 20 year old, I can agree with this. I do think it should change, though, 18-20 should have a 10:00 PM curfew, 20-22 should have an 11:00 PM curfew, and 22-24 should have a 11:59 PM curfew (So they can't claim ignorance of AM-PM, which, though it sounds stupid, people have done stupider things).
 

MattLepore

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It's been statistically shown that a woman can only process 1/3rd of what a man of the same height and weight can drink without getting drunk. Therefore, it'd be more logical to ban women.
 

SmartIdiot

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Completely fucking ridiculous. It negates the whole point of getting your licence, to go where you want when you want! Curfew? That's not freedom! I've made so many late night journeys since I got my license 9 months ago, coming back from gigs/helping friends out (I'm talking driving for about 8-12 hours at a time here and on dangerous roads at times, it's a very remote area), I'm still in one piece and most of these journeys were completed well after 10pm.

The only way younger drivers can get 'enough experience not to kill themselves' is to allow them to build that experience. This means allowing them to drive at all times of day and night if they choose to and in all weather conditions. Also to be honest I believe night time driving is actually far less taxing on a driver as you don't need to constantly check your mirrors, no lights, no cars. After that it's just a case of taking care and staying awake, which is also piss easy, you wouldn't fall asleep at work so why the fuck would you fall asleep at the wheel of a 1 tonne vehicle? Anyone who says you can either doesn't drive, is a bad driver or is bullshitting, as I just don't buy it.
 

DoctorWhat

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MattLepore said:
It's been statistically shown that a woman can only process 1/3rd of what a man of the same height and weight can drink without getting drunk. Therefore, it'd be more logical to ban women.
It's not a drinking ban, it's a driving ban. It doesn't matter whether you're drunk or not (though if you were, you'd be pulled over anyway), if you're male and between the ages of 17 and 25, you wouldn't be allowed to drive after 10pm.
 

Mephisteus

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Tying it to age is bonkers, if you get your drivers license when you're 34 you'd be exempt, yet you'd have less experience than the 24 year old who's been driving since 18!

This proposal is completely useless. You might as well ban those who are "too experienced" because they're overconfident. How INSANE can a proposal get?

And that's not even starting on the sexism. Isn't the generalising how it started with the sexism against the women? "Women can't" "Women shouldn't". Someone fire the idiot that proposed it, PLEASE.

On that note, I doubt it even would've gotten this far if it were women that statistics showed were more dangerous.
 

The Bandit

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akmarksman said:
The Bandit said:
This is the equivalent of saying "Statistically, black people commit more crime than white people, so black people aren't allowed after 10:00 pm."

No. You cannot do that.
"Yes we can" (thanks to Obama for that) ..because look at Africa..and they think slavery was the ultimate evil in America at one point. I would change your wording to "..should not be allowed after 10:00 PM"

Look at the population in jail..in California jails,you'll probably find more mexicans than blacks..in a jail in Montana..you'll find more white people than black people in jail.

Can't forget to sterotype too because people OTW(other than white) tend to follow whatever society's stereotype for them is..

News Flash:
More Muslims than Christians found in Saudi Arabia..
I have no idea what you just said. None of it. I could find no coherency. I'm just going to assume you agreed with me and move on with my life.
 

Link2092

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As an Irish male between the age of 17 and 25, I would have no problem with this law coming to pass if, and only if, my insurance and tax are drastically cut. I am currently paying just over 3,500 euro on tax and car insurance for a car that costs less than 300 and I very rarely drive anywhere after 10pm anyway opting to take a bus or taxi on nights out.
 

Sampsa

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I live in Finland so this isn't a concer of mine, but I can understand arguements behind both sides. Untill recently young male drivers were the most suicidal group here but now girls are going up on the ladder.

If I was a goverment official I too would likely try to save as many taxpayers for the future as possible. I agree that this gender thing is poor solution, that might make EU to do something.

Maybe you should be able attain drivers license after you're 18 and give a ticket for drivers that have more than 0,5 permille of alcohol in their blood?
 

mooncalf

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Two complete pages of comments, and nobody thought to check the more incredulous 'facts' in the op post? Visit the link and read the article, it says "Younger motorists", nowhere does it say only men are targeted. Byrne does use a male in his example, but you don't have to get your man-knickers in a twist because he has a valid point.

Also it talks about 6-12 month periods during restricted license phases (only maybe after full), and that's what some countries (New Zealand, for instance) already have.
 

bluepilot

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In someways it is justified because a few too many young men drink drive and very quickly become organ donors, perhaps taking a few with them in the process.

It is highly unfair to all you good drivers out there, but you cannot deny that it will save lives...plus you will have to be extra nice to your sisters now.

I hope that you get a discount on your insurence premiums because of this. It does cut your risk asessment quite drastically.
 

Wadders

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What the fuck man?!

Young males already get fucked over with paying massive sums of money for car insurance. We don't need to suffer any more just for the stupidity of a few boy racers.

*notices it's from an Irish paper, and calms down*

Well, a bit. I still cant really believe someone somewhere thinks this might be a good idea.
 

razer17

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That is both ageist and sexist.
That is extremely stupid idea, you cant control certain demographics more than others. And i bet insurance wouldn't even go down for that demographic.

A few boy racers wrapping themselves round trees and all are punished. personally they are removing themselves from the genepool, they should be encouraged.