Poll: Farewell Pokemon: A poll to stop the abuse

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Nazulu

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arc1991 said:
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Agreed. It has gone on for too long now, it really is abuse. They don't anything really special with the new games, just pump the same shit out over and over and it's really sad. Also, everyone knows the new Pokemon suck compared to the originals, almost everything about these new games are pathetic.

The TV show is even worse, it's literally soulless crap. I can't believe they can get away with it for so long, there should be study on it to see if it cause brain damage!

arc1991 said:
stop Trolling, and respect it for what it is.
Making a thread to let your opinion be heard is not trolling. Get your facts straight.
Ooh I'm sorry! i did not know! i mean it's not like this type of thread hasn't been done before! their was no reason to make a thread about this when a thread of it already exists he could of just commented on that!

Ooh and not trolling?

a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response

Maybe you need to get your facts straight? He may not intend it, but this thread will do the above.
Your getting all emotional over nothing? Really? He has absolutely no power in stopping the franchise and your provoked?

If someone else's opinion is going to upset you so much then maybe you shouldn't be on the forums.
When did i say it would upset me? I never said that at all. but their are other ways to say your opinions other than to start a thread which will get people worked up because the thread has been done to death.

I'm not upset, far from it, just annoyed that another thread has been made like this when their was no need.
Well stop being annoyed. I don't see how it could annoy you unless you hate seeing someone else voice a different opinion than yours. Seriously, that would be the only reasonable answer. Most, and I mean 99% of threads have been done before and I like them to come up now and again cause I like to voice my opinion too.
I respect he has an opinion, i just don't see why he had to make a thread about it when their are OTHERS which completely the SAME

I'm not annoyed he has an opinion, i respect that, I'm annoyed it had to be in another thread where all this could of been avoided. And i bet i aint the only one.
Avoid what exactly? You could just ignore these threads. If you want to be annoyed by certain threads popping up again then be my guest, just please don't go so far as to call people who feel the need to voice their opinion a troll.
But in voicing their own opinion, they have trolled, just look at my definition of the word, then read through the thread...

You'll see he has done what the definition says.

An we could of avoided this argument for one, and also people getting worked up about it, just read through the thread and you'll see.
It's not trolling, ask around if you don't believe me because you voicing your opinion to me right now would also be considered trolling if it meant what you think it means, and that would be incredibly hypocritical of you.

No one is getting worked up about it because he hasn't done anything to disturb the peace. You either agree or disagree and give your reasons why, he hasn't said anything mean or offensive to be called a troll.
 

Quiet Stranger

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They should just hire the guy who did the short Apokealypse and let him do a new gritty dark cartoon series of pokemon
 

warprincenataku

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Yeah it's the same thing over and over, but it's for an entirely new 'generation' of kids. I played Poke'mon Red & Blue, but that was a long, long time ago. I don't play it any more, but now my students play Platiunum. Yeah it's the same thing, but with an updated look and feel.

Nintendo has been doing this with all its franchises. Why not kill off Mario, Donkey Kong or Metroid? Because my Mario may not be your mario. Have you ever played the original Mario on the Atari where you thump enemies from underneath them and knock them out by running into them? Probably not, but you've probably played Mario Galaxy, which I have not.
 

Buizel91

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Nazulu said:
arc1991 said:
Nazulu said:
arc1991 said:
Nazulu said:
arc1991 said:
Nazulu said:
arc1991 said:
Nazulu said:
Agreed. It has gone on for too long now, it really is abuse. They don't anything really special with the new games, just pump the same shit out over and over and it's really sad. Also, everyone knows the new Pokemon suck compared to the originals, almost everything about these new games are pathetic.

The TV show is even worse, it's literally soulless crap. I can't believe they can get away with it for so long, there should be study on it to see if it cause brain damage!

arc1991 said:
stop Trolling, and respect it for what it is.
Making a thread to let your opinion be heard is not trolling. Get your facts straight.
Ooh I'm sorry! i did not know! i mean it's not like this type of thread hasn't been done before! their was no reason to make a thread about this when a thread of it already exists he could of just commented on that!

Ooh and not trolling?

a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response

Maybe you need to get your facts straight? He may not intend it, but this thread will do the above.
Your getting all emotional over nothing? Really? He has absolutely no power in stopping the franchise and your provoked?

If someone else's opinion is going to upset you so much then maybe you shouldn't be on the forums.
When did i say it would upset me? I never said that at all. but their are other ways to say your opinions other than to start a thread which will get people worked up because the thread has been done to death.

I'm not upset, far from it, just annoyed that another thread has been made like this when their was no need.
Well stop being annoyed. I don't see how it could annoy you unless you hate seeing someone else voice a different opinion than yours. Seriously, that would be the only reasonable answer. Most, and I mean 99% of threads have been done before and I like them to come up now and again cause I like to voice my opinion too.
I respect he has an opinion, i just don't see why he had to make a thread about it when their are OTHERS which completely the SAME

I'm not annoyed he has an opinion, i respect that, I'm annoyed it had to be in another thread where all this could of been avoided. And i bet i aint the only one.
Avoid what exactly? You could just ignore these threads. If you want to be annoyed by certain threads popping up again then be my guest, just please don't go so far as to call people who feel the need to voice their opinion a troll.
But in voicing their own opinion, they have trolled, just look at my definition of the word, then read through the thread...

You'll see he has done what the definition says.

An we could of avoided this argument for one, and also people getting worked up about it, just read through the thread and you'll see.
It's not trolling, ask around if you don't believe me because you voicing your opinion to me right now would also be considered trolling if it meant what you think it means, and that would be incredibly hypocritical of you.

No one is getting worked up about it because he hasn't done anything to disturb the peace. You either agree or disagree and give your reasons why, he hasn't said anything mean or offensive to be called a troll.
*Sigh* I give up but once this thread is turned to a war between haters and non haters (Probably later today when the rest of England wake up) I'm not gunna be the one telling you "i told you so". As i said, just read through the thread, even i can see some people are worked up about it.

If he isn't trolling, then he could of worded it better.
 

The_Echo

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*Ahem*

How about you check out Pokémon Black and White, then try and say it's the same thing as the others. They understand the series has been samey, which is why they went the way they did with Black/White.

Aside from all that, I think Digimon is superior anyway.
 

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Wintermute_ said:
Everyone, lets face it: Nintendo needs to take pokemon out back behind the shed, put the muzzle to its head and whisper their teary eyed goodbyes to the most abused and over-marketed series they have (next to, of course, the dried up burlap sack of a whore that is Mario).

The games really are just the same thing over and over and over. The entire draw of pokemon is the pokemon, and if the pokemon are lame now, the games have no value. Just play the older ones. If you've seen any of the pokemon from black and white, then you know what I mean. They have gotten just ridiculous.

Also, the show: I happened to have LOVED the original series and it is a corner stone of my childhood, but now... I mean my god. I can't help but think "Oh no, the future generation is gonna see this and do one of two things: love it (which would make me weep) or hate it and there-by think it is representative of what pokemon once was."

Nintendo, I beg you, end it.
Yahtzee said:
Sega needs to take Sonic out back behind the shed, put the muzzle to its head and whisper their teary eyed goodbyes to the most abused and over-marketed series they have (next to, of course, the dried up burlap sack of a whore that is Mario).
I KNEW IT SOUNDED FAMILIAR!
 

Uber Waddles

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I hate people who make this arguement. Seriously.

Because its fairly obvious that you have not played Pokemon since Gold/Silver, and are judging hte new Pokemon based soley on the fact that the new ones arent the old ones...

IF you actually played the game, you would realize each generation adds new mechanics, and betters the game play (both metagame and competitive). Its not the old Rock/Paper/Scizors bs, its gotten a lot more complicated since then.

And the fact that they are constantly making new Pokemon, and finding ways to spark interest with old ones, as well as encouraging new strategies and gameplay styles, I fail to see how they are stagnant.

I mean, for fucks sake. Major mechanic innovations each generation isnt something we ask from ANY of our milked franchises. So when one actually does do it, its considered "milked" just because it has appeal to kids.

Usually I see two sides of a story, but no. In this case, no. If were bitching about innovation in a industry known for its lack of it, then you need to just go play whatever generic first person shooter you think "changed the face of the gaming industry".
 

emeraldrafael

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So I suppose they should kill mario, metroid, and all the other greats that made it famous? you odnt kill a corner stone. Thats like asking Halo to stop after Halo 3. Bungee nerds would flip shit and cry that this cant happen. Look, maybe you;re growing out of it and dont like it, but its still a large ercentage of their revenue. you think they make their other games with the money from wii sports resort? yeah, dont make me laugh.

Just leave it go, and let kids still have their gateway rpg. Becuase thats what pokemon is. its an easy game to transition someone younger, or someone inexperienced in games. Just stop your bitching and get past that face that you dont like anyhting after red. Its still being inventive, just look at the stuff in white and black.
 
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Calum_M said:
No, don't end it. But actually make a new game.

Hear me out:

Rather than adding 8 bajillion pokemon, add about 50. Spend the rest of your time and money on an actually interesting story, improved overworld mechanics, etc.
this. they could really revamp it, and PLEASE make a decent console/pc game this time around..stadium was fun and all when it came out, but please, you could fucking swim in pools of cash they simply made a console/pc game for pokemon that was as solid as the handhelds
 

Chronarch

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Pokemon isn't nearly as good as it used to be and it might just need to be Old Yeller'd. Although, a few of the new Pokemon do appeal to me. Plus, as long as Nintendo can make a good profit off it, it'll continue... Possibly forever.
 

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Kekon3 said:
Wintermute_ said:
Everyone, lets face it: Nintendo needs to take pokemon out back behind the shed, put the muzzle to its head and whisper their teary eyed goodbyes to the most abused and over-marketed series they have (next to, of course, the dried up burlap sack of a whore that is Mario).

The games really are just the same thing over and over and over. The entire draw of pokemon is the pokemon, and if the pokemon are lame now, the games have no value. Just play the older ones. If you've seen any of the pokemon from black and white, then you know what I mean. They have gotten just ridiculous.

Also, the show: I happened to have LOVED the original series and it is a corner stone of my childhood, but now... I mean my god. I can't help but think "Oh no, the future generation is gonna see this and do one of two things: love it (which would make me weep) or hate it and there-by think it is representative of what pokemon once was."

Nintendo, I beg you, end it.
Yahtzee said:
Sega needs to take Sonic out back behind the shed, put the muzzle to its head and whisper their teary eyed goodbyes to the most abused and over-marketed series they have (next to, of course, the dried up burlap sack of a whore that is Mario).
I KNEW IT SOUNDED FAMILIAR!
Haha, well you helped me prove my point ;D cheers!
 

Wintermute_

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Yahtzee said:
Sega needs to take Sonic out back behind the shed, put the muzzle to its head and whisper their teary eyed goodbyes to the most abused and over-marketed series they have (next to, of course, the dried up burlap sack of a whore that is Mario).
I KNEW IT SOUNDED FAMILIAR![/quote]

It was a reference dude. I love yahtzee, and was comparing it to sonic.
 

Wintermute_

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Kekon3 said:
Wintermute_ said:
It was a reference dude. I love yahtzee, and was comparing it to sonic.
Sooooo, do I win the game? :D
Damn... lost it. Your reward for winning: The Mythical Sword of Sir Terry Pratchett (it exists, now you just have to find it)
 

Terminate421

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Oh my god, not another one of you bastards, if they keep making pokemon, we'll still end up with awesome guys......

Whats not cool to you is most likely cool to someone else.

God, I swear everyone on the escapist just hates pokemon.
 

Terminate421

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Wintermute_ said:
Calum_M said:
No, don't end it. But actually make a new game.

Hear me out:

Rather than adding 8 bajillion pokemon, add about 50. Spend the rest of your time and money on an actually interesting story, improved overworld mechanics, etc.
for years, I have prayed to the Nintendo overlords, God, and even the FSM, for a Pokemon RPG.
YES! and while play as a trainer might be ok, I want to play as a pokemon! Pick your pokemon, lvl up by fighting other pokemon and players, and eliminate the trainers from the equation. Just pokemon in a pokemon environment. Kinda like dungeon quest if dungeon quest wasn't piss...


Here you go, one masterpiece where you play as a pokemon. (Seriously, its REALLY good)
 

Bluesclues

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arc1991 said:
*Sigh*

Pokemon will never end as long as their are still people watching/playing it...if your a true fan to Pokemon, you will respect that this a show for kids, and not us teens/adults, therefore it should not change just Because you and few other don't like it.

No matter what the hell you try to do, it will take alot for Pokemon to change, think of Pokemon in the real world, in our world Animals are different all over the globe, same with Pokemon, why should they keep it relativity the same when it isn't in the real world? Hell i'd love to see what Pokemon live in Africa, the amount of stuff they could do.

stop Trolling, and respect it for what it is.

By the way, anyone else notice that these hate threads usually have under 100 posts?

or is it just me?
Hear hear!

Speaking of Pokemon relation to RL animals, I have a question for you: What do the humans in the world eat if the world is inhabited by Pokemon? (I'm not trolling btw this question has been bugging me for some time and I've been trying to find someone knowledgeable in all things Pokemon to see if they had a genuine answer.)