Poll: FF7 is so popular because it was a lot of people's first JRPG
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Personally FFIX was my first JRPG. And I loved it so maybe your point is still valid. But then again I replayed it recently and still loved it after 5+ years. Oddly enough I hated FF7, the plot was typical of an FF game but the characters were terrible (apart from Sephiroth). Everyone in the game appeared to be idiots, emo, or in the case of my weird abuse of the naming system, batman. Otherwise I found nothing in there that particularly excited me. In my opinion there was nothing done in FF7 that was not done far better in other installments.
FFVII is my favorite game. It could be because of the childhood memories of my brother playing it, and then me playing it at the age of 7. But I think my first real JRPG was Chrono Trigger. And I loved both of them. But Final Fantasy VII has always been the golden treasure of gaming for me.
Never played it. My first major JRPG [not counting pokemon] was Kingdom Hearts. It's got FF characters, but it's not FF7. So this really doesn't apply to me, so thank you for the "Not Played" option on the poll...
Well, I will warn people that this could be legitimate flamebait, but I'm gonna say it anyway.
FFVII was my first JRPG. Then, after a long while I found Chrono Trigger for the DS and figured it was worth the money. I DID in fact enjoy both. Chrono Trigger brought some actual design sense into some standard RPG mechanics that tend to outright fail in other games. For example, magic is powerful, standard attacks are not useless, and changing your armor out for the situation actually has a noticable effect (see my "5% fire resistance" article)
But no. It did NOT have a good plot. It had a HORRIBLE plot. Lavos wants to destroy the world. Don't get me wrong, FFVII could be said is just Find/Replace Lavos->Sephiroth, but there's reasons behind it, there's plenty of other things going on, and since so much screwed-up stuff is going on, they take adequate time to explain it.
There were legitimately times in Chrono Trigger when I had no idea what my party was doing or where we were going. I fought my way through to Magus because I couldn't find anything else significant on the world map. I found Robo in my first trip to the future because there was nothing else to do. There were even times when I forgot where I had last been and just sort of wandered the ages looking for an NPC who would say something different. And then when I finally get to some potential plot exposition, they barely answer any questions and just said "keep doing what you're doing."
Heck, I could have avoided the whole part of the game between fighting Magus and joining him if my characters had paid more attention to exposition, with a simple;
"Hi, evil overlord. Who the heck are you and what are you doing with these ritual circles?"
"Why, I'm trying to destroy an evil menace that will take over the world at some point."
"Oh, I see! Let us help."
FFVII played things straight; Perhaps by having too-long cutscenes, but they were still pretty easy to appreciate, especially the 3D-rendered FMVs.
FFVII was my first JRPG. Then, after a long while I found Chrono Trigger for the DS and figured it was worth the money. I DID in fact enjoy both. Chrono Trigger brought some actual design sense into some standard RPG mechanics that tend to outright fail in other games. For example, magic is powerful, standard attacks are not useless, and changing your armor out for the situation actually has a noticable effect (see my "5% fire resistance" article)
But no. It did NOT have a good plot. It had a HORRIBLE plot. Lavos wants to destroy the world. Don't get me wrong, FFVII could be said is just Find/Replace Lavos->Sephiroth, but there's reasons behind it, there's plenty of other things going on, and since so much screwed-up stuff is going on, they take adequate time to explain it.
There were legitimately times in Chrono Trigger when I had no idea what my party was doing or where we were going. I fought my way through to Magus because I couldn't find anything else significant on the world map. I found Robo in my first trip to the future because there was nothing else to do. There were even times when I forgot where I had last been and just sort of wandered the ages looking for an NPC who would say something different. And then when I finally get to some potential plot exposition, they barely answer any questions and just said "keep doing what you're doing."
Heck, I could have avoided the whole part of the game between fighting Magus and joining him if my characters had paid more attention to exposition, with a simple;
"Hi, evil overlord. Who the heck are you and what are you doing with these ritual circles?"
"Why, I'm trying to destroy an evil menace that will take over the world at some point."
"Oh, I see! Let us help."
FFVII played things straight; Perhaps by having too-long cutscenes, but they were still pretty easy to appreciate, especially the 3D-rendered FMVs.
Huh, you talking to me?Jandau said:
Yeah, FF7 was THE game that introduced me to a whole new kind of gaming. As a kid, I couldn´t afford to run after every cool game that hit the shelves (Hell, if it wasn´t for my older brother, I probably wouldn´t be the gamer I am today), so all I could do was to choose the ones that were hyped, like Final Fantasy 7. Luckily, I wasn´t disappointed. I still like the game very much, even though it´s mostly because of nostalgia. It may not have aged very well, but I find myself unwilling to start wallowing in its flaws when it still has the merit of being the first of its kind (the kind being RPG).
I never had a Playstation so I started playing FF7 on the PSP. It's not a horrible game and the backgrounds still look good by portable game standards, but the character models are absolutely awful, the translation is riddled with mistakes and poorly-worded instructions, navigation through the maps is made needlessly difficult because it's hard to tell where you can walk and where you cannot, and the game is bogged down by a lot of boring minigames. But despite all these flaws, there's nothing about the game that makes me want to delete it off my card because I can't stand playing it. I guess it's so bad it's good.
You're way too young to understand. We didn't have games like GTA IV or Mass Effect growing up, so games like FF7 were mind blowing.Douk said:
You do if your american!Axolotl said:
Har har, I jest I jest.
OT: I actually never really got into any final fantasy games, including 7.
I actually haven't played it, yet. The only Final Fantasy titles I've played so far are VI and Tactics, though I actually own X (I just haven't gotten to playing it yet; need to finish Tales of the Abyss first).
My first JRPG was probably Shining in the Darkness, for the Genesis.
Granted, it wasn't the best at it. That title goes to Baten Kaitos Origins.
My first JRPG was probably Shining in the Darkness, for the Genesis.
Perhaps, but what does that have to do with FF7? That game used active-time battle.Onyx Oblivion said:
Granted, it wasn't the best at it. That title goes to Baten Kaitos Origins.