Poll: Firearms F.A.Q. IRL Edition (read first post if you are entering thread for the first time)

[FightThePower]

What do you think is the most persistant gun myth?

 

[Starke]

What is the ugliest gun you've ever seen? Right now my money is on the Striker.

I see you one striker and raise you a Groza.

 

[Stickyreiss]

Is it true that there is a place in a man's head that, if you shoot it, it will blow up?

No, that isn't true. That all depends on what you shoot the head with.

Fulminated Mercury filled hollowpoints?

Is this as hillariously rediculous as I think it is?

that is what we in the know refer to as tacticool

i am going to dinner, be back later

 

[TMAN10112]

I have heard that some companies still produce muzzle loading rifles, is that true?

Yes, they're very popular among hunters. I live in a county which doesn't allow you to hunt deer with modern rifles, and the season is extended for muzzel-loaders. I plan on taking mine out next week (Last week of the season).

Plus, Thompson makes some really nice guns.

Spoiler: If only I could afford one....

P.S. I'll be hanging around this thread for a while, so feel free to ask me a few questions.

 

[Starke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS2MEN-C31U&feature=related ?

 

[Danny Ocean]

snip

this deep of a debate is too much for a forum, typing all of this out can be much more efficient in an instant rely setting
feel free to IM me
MSN-stickyrice@ameritech.net (old email, don't bother spamming)

Sure thing. I might call you up on that tomorrow.

 

[TheSeventhLoneWolf]

Do you believe the quote 'God created man, but colt made them equal'?

 

[UltraParanoia]

Good god I hate tacticool.

Also, why are surpressors such a pain in the ass to get in America?

 

[guess who]

I am thinking of someday (years away) maybe buying some kind of bolt action hunting rifle, any suggestions?

By the way I would mostly be hunting white tailed deer, although moose and black bear may also be on the list.

 

[UltraParanoia]

@Guess who: Get a Milsurp, .303 Enfield or a Mosin Nagant, they make fantastic hunting rifles.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Let the police handle it, and its better that less people die then that more people will feel safe with owning gun for threatening situations.

from http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/may/10/20040510-122711-8996r/

The statistics, contained in the department's fiscal 2005 budget performance report, show that the average response time for the highest-priority calls -- Priority 1 -- was 8 minutes, 25 seconds in fiscal 2003, up from 7 minutes, 19 seconds in fiscal 2002 and 7 minutes, 47 seconds in fiscal 2001.

think about what an intruder in your home, or a mugger on the streets can accomplish in 7 minutes. A weapon takes seconds to draw.

That argument comes up a lot, and I always think that it is very unlikely that the ordinary citizen would be able to effectively defend himself or herself when faced with a criminal with a gun, AND if the country's prohibition laws work properly, the average criminal will either not have access to a gun or would not use the gun to rob an ordinary citizen.

heroin is highly illegal right? most people who use it aren't exactly MENSA status, yet they can circumvent the system. I'm unable to find a real statistic, but I would estimate that just the sight of a gun drawn on them will cause most street criminals (the most common varieties) will flee. And in 47-49 states a CCW license is required to carry, and CCW permits require a class on self defense from a certified instructor.

ok you want to see real examples of how well gun control works?

first check out Canadian gun laws, then check out how many of us actually own guns. you will notice two things.

first off you will notice that we have VERY strict laws, trigger locks, ammo and gun separated in locked cabinets on opposite ends of the house, no automatic weapons without special licenses, you can only carry your gun to and from your destination, which must be a gun range or where you go hunting.

the next thing you will notice is that Canadians have a LOT of guns, we like to hunt.

now taking those two things into account, why not look up the murder rate for Canada. you will notice that in a few years in the past 15 or so that murders by means other than guns have out numbered murders by guns.

so this is just one country that totally disproves the argument of "if we have no guns who will protect us from the bad guys". it is a very weak argument to begin with and has about as much weight as the marijuana being a gateway drug one.

you can claim to be "protecting" yourself but in reality the gun won't be able to do much, unless you can draw it, which in most cases you can't, you can pull the trigger, which is harder than you think, and you can NOT miss, you miss and you will probly get shot as well and they might not miss.

 

[AWAR]

I just read that in Americuh a 9 year old got a junior 12 gauge shotgun for christmas and he used it to kill his father's pregnant girlfriend...

 

[TMAN10112]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS2MEN-C31U&feature=related ?

What do you want to know about it?

 

[open trap]

Let the police handle it, and its better that less people die then that more people will feel safe with owning gun for threatening situations.

from http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/may/10/20040510-122711-8996r/

The statistics, contained in the department's fiscal 2005 budget performance report, show that the average response time for the highest-priority calls -- Priority 1 -- was 8 minutes, 25 seconds in fiscal 2003, up from 7 minutes, 19 seconds in fiscal 2002 and 7 minutes, 47 seconds in fiscal 2001.

think about what an intruder in your home, or a mugger on the streets can accomplish in 7 minutes. A weapon takes seconds to draw.

That argument comes up a lot, and I always think that it is very unlikely that the ordinary citizen would be able to effectively defend himself or herself when faced with a criminal with a gun, AND if the country's prohibition laws work properly, the average criminal will either not have access to a gun or would not use the gun to rob an ordinary citizen.

heroin is highly illegal right? most people who use it aren't exactly MENSA status, yet they can circumvent the system. I'm unable to find a real statistic, but I would estimate that just the sight of a gun drawn on them will cause most street criminals (the most common varieties) will flee. And in 47-49 states a CCW license is required to carry, and CCW permits require a class on self defense from a certified instructor.

most criminals dont carry a loaded gun and use the sight of a gun to scare people

 

[RabidusUnus]

...

That thing is just too damn huge.

OT: Justify the right to bear arms in the USA when the firearms murder rate is substantialy lower in countries where the average citizen cannot own a gun, and specifically handguns.

majorly simplified answer: If owning guns is a criminal act, law abiding citizens will not have them, the majority criminals however will not be stopped. Then, how do we defend ourselves in a threatening situation? I can go on if you want, thats just the one of the strongest points IMO.

Let the police handle it, and its better that less people die then that more people will feel safe with owning gun for threatening situations.

Every time someone brings up gun control, people on the other side say let the police handle it. Time from when a burglar enters your house to when he could hurt or kill you: I'd give that one a minute tops. Police response time: average 8 or so minutes, isn't it?

 

[Iampringles]

Would the world be a better place if it was legal to own firearms in all countries?

 

[Jive_pimp]

I grew up around guns. My dad introduced them to my brother and I at a young age, so I've always had a healthy respect for the uses and dangers of guns. Driving always seemed to be just as dangerous to me and you can get your drivers license way too easy for my liking. My point is that people just need more education to instill fear and respect of dangerous things.

Does anyone else get annoyed by being able to dual wield guns in some fps games? I also don't like it when the function of a gun is changed to balance the game.

 

[punkrocker27]

different countries, different dynamics. what works in one might not be the same in another. i think gun ownership is more of a personal choice issue.

 

[hittite]

I have heard that some companies still produce muzzle loading rifles, is that true?

yes. There is even a muzzle-loader only season in some states.