Poll: Firearms F.A.Q. IRL Edition (read first post if you are entering thread for the first time)

[UltraParanoia]

This might be a clueless question-but I'm debating buying a pistol this summer. What exactly do you need to do to legally own a firearm in the US? Also, where would you get basic firearms training? A generality is OK-I'm just curious about where to begin looking.

I suspect most people would be asking their parents about this stuff but my family doesn't own any weapons and is rather opposed to them. Thanks!

If your family is opposed to weapons, I recommend you get the king of smokewagons:

 

[GRoXERs]

Good god I hate tacticool.

Also, why are surpressors such a pain in the ass to get in America?

Ooh, ooh, I know this one: The reasoning is that a) they make more-or-less silent murder from a distance possible, and b) most people aren't intelligent enough to use them properly.

I've seen and fired a suppressed .22 LR. The only noise it made was the firing pin going click and a "poof."

 

[UltraParanoia]

From what I understand, they are mandatory safety devices in some euro countries to protect against hearing damage at the range, which is why I would like to get one.

 

[Kodlak]

@Jive_pimp I get quite annoyed about dual wield guns, but it makes games fun

@-who ever made a comment about dual wielding gold Desert Eagles... No! Just no!

 

[johnman]

OT: Ever seen a bolt action shotgun? We just got one, a very interesting piece of work.

I love thsoe things, but barely anyone sems to know they exist

 

[hittite]

I have a gun related question: If a person were to theoretically stick their dick into the barrel of a gun, and it fit, presuming it fit enough to be considered airtight, would the gun be able to fire?

yes, and you would be a eunuch.

 

[UltraParanoia]

More than likely dead, and an hero to /b/tards

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Also, why are surpressors such a pain in the ass to get in America?

I'm wondering more what kind of non-criminal reason could exist for someone to want to own a suppressor.

"Because it would be cool" is not a valid response.

 

[manaman]

I have a gun related question: If a person were to theoretically stick their dick into the barrel of a gun, and it fit, presuming it fit enough to be considered airtight, would the gun be able to fire?

You could just say: "Hi, I don't like guns, so read about me foolish to prove a point! Good day!" If you wanted an explanation then saying finger would have done the trick.

And yes, The gun will fire. In fact there is enough air already in the bullet for the gun to fire in space. Where nobody can hear you scream.

Edit: Oh yeah forgot about the shameless self promotion. We have a Gun Nuts [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/chat/Gun-Nuts] group here on The Escapist groups, and yeah you can come along and talk about imaginary or even weapons based on real weapons from games.

 

[johnman]

Prototype for the Sa80, looks more like a laser

 

[Zacharine]

Also, why are surpressors such a pain in the ass to get in America?

I'm wondering more what kind of non-criminal reason could exist for someone to want to own a suppressor.

"Because it would be cool" is not a valid response.

Possibly used in firing ranges near houses, to reduce the general noise-levels. To reduce the likelihood of ear damage in firing ranges that are indoors or in closed spaces.

 

[duckfi8]

How much of a badass would I look when firing a gold plated, blinged-up Desert Eagle on its side from the waist?

extremely badass, but i hate Desert Eagles

 

[UltraParanoia]

Answered that already.

Also, why are surpressors such a pain in the ass to get in America?

I'm wondering more what kind of non-criminal reason could exist for someone to want to own a suppressor.

"Because it would be cool" is not a valid response.

to protect against hearing damage at the range, which is why I would like to get one.

 

[hittite]

AK-47: best automatic rifle on earth?

Let me explain. The AK is the single most widely distributed firearm on the planet. It has inspired innumerable knock-offs and imitations. The 7.62 round has a decent knock down power. It is extremely reliable with only about a .1% chance of jamming. It is decently accurate when used in single shot or burst-fire, it's legendary inaccuracy is entirely due to people using it mike a sub-machine gun since it has a significant barrel rise. There are documented cases of people burying one in mud, coming back weeks later, banging it on the ground a few times, knocking the dirt out of the barrel and firing it.

 

[Stickyreiss]

I'm Back.

Do you believe the quote 'God created man, but colt made them equal'?

no, but it's an amusing quote

Good god I hate tacticool.

Also, why are surpressors such a pain in the ass to get in America?

because, according to the Anti-Gun lobbies suppressors are only for making murder easier (no citation, personal experience) ignoring the benefits for hunters and range goers (less danger of hearing damage. I don't have a problem with this, because lack of suppressors isn't a huge problem, most people have them for fun.

you can claim to be "protecting" yourself but in reality the gun won't be able to do much, unless you can draw it, which in most cases you can't, you can pull the trigger, which is harder than you think, and you can NOT miss, you miss and you will probly get shot as well and they might not miss.

have you ever handled a handgun before? from what you posted I don't think you have, not flaming you, but if you have experience, it sure doesn't sound like it.

Would the world be a better place if it was legal to own firearms in all countries?

no

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most criminals dont carry a loaded gun and use the sight of a gun to scare people

find me a source on this or I am calling unfounded assumption

I have a gun related question: If a person were to theoretically stick their dick into the barrel of a gun, and it fit, presuming it fit enough to be considered airtight, would the gun be able to fire?

I have a gun related question: If a person were to theoretically stick their dick into the barrel of a gun, and it fit, presuming it fit enough to be considered airtight, would the gun be able to fire?

this is just a bad idea, and yes, it would


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my answer to all of the following posts is YES thank you! People are afraid of guns because the media scares them into subconsciously thinking guns are out to get you, anyone who has spent time around firearms has

I grew up around guns. My dad introduced them to my brother and I at a young age, so I've always had a healthy respect for the uses and dangers of guns. Driving always seemed to be just as dangerous to me and you can get your drivers license way too easy for my liking. My point is that people just need more education to instill fear and respect of dangerous things.

Does anyone else get annoyed by being able to dual wield guns in some fps games? I also don't like it when the function of a gun is changed to balance the game.

games are for fun, real life isn't all that entertaining, i have no problem with unrealistic games. btw most realistic mil sim ever= ArmA 2 with the ACE mod

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That thing is just too damn huge.

OT: Justify the right to bear arms in the USA when the firearms murder rate is substantialy lower in countries where the average citizen cannot own a gun, and specifically handguns.

majorly simplified answer: If owning guns is a criminal act, law abiding citizens will not have them, the majority criminals however will not be stopped. Then, how do we defend ourselves in a threatening situation? I can go on if you want, thats just the one of the strongest points IMO.

Let the police handle it, and its better that less people die then that more people will feel safe with owning gun for threatening situations.

Every time someone brings up gun control, people on the other side say let the police handle it. Time from when a burglar enters your house to when he could hurt or kill you: I'd give that one a minute tops. Police response time: average 8 or so minutes, isn't it?

different countries, different dynamics. what works in one might not be the same in another. i think gun ownership is more of a personal choice issue.

PS I have edited the front page

 

[UltraParanoia]

Any weapon that can survive africa is the best weapon in the world.

 

[-Drifter-]

Does anyone else get annoyed by being able to dual wield guns in some fps games? I also don't like it when the function of a gun is changed to balance the game.

Well, I figure that if there is going to be duel wielding, it should at least be very hard to aim and not particularly practical in anything but an extremely close quarters fire-fight.

 

[Actsub]

I just get the ACOG sight on my thermal scope Deagle, load the clip into it then hit people with it from a mile away with the attached rocket launcher.

 

[GeneralGrant]

Every time someone brings up gun control, people on the other side say let the police handle it. Time from when a burglar enters your house to when he could hurt or kill you: I'd give that one a minute tops. Police response time: average 8 or so minutes, isn't it?

If it really is a burglar-they're unlikely to be hurting/killing you unless you decide to try and fight him. They're there for your stuff, not for you.

 

[Stickyreiss]

I have a gun related question: If a person were to theoretically stick their dick into the barrel of a gun, and it fit, presuming it fit enough to be considered airtight, would the gun be able to fire?

You could just say: "Hi, I don't like guns, so read about me foolish to prove a point! Good day!" If you wanted an explanation then saying finger would have done the trick.

And yes, The gun will fire. In fact there is enough air already in the bullet for the gun to fire in space. Where nobody can hear you scream.

Edit: Oh yeah forgot about the shameless self promotion. We have a Gun Nuts [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/chat/Gun-Nuts] group here on The Escapist groups, and yeah you can come along and talk about imaginary or even weapons based on real weapons from games.

"there is air in the bullet" i see where you are going with this but to clarify, gunpowder contains oxidizers which "burn" and create oxygen to fuel the other propellants, allowing it to fire even in a vacuum, also the gunpowder is in the casing, not the bullet. again, just clarifying things.

AK-47: best automatic rifle on earth?

Let me explain. The AK is the single most widely distributed firearm on the planet. It has inspired innumerable knock-offs and imitations. The 7.62 round has a decent knock down power. It is extremely reliable with only about a .1% chance of jamming. It is decently accurate when used in single shot or burst-fire, it's legendary inaccuracy is entirely due to people using it mike a sub-machine gun since it has a significant barrel rise. There are documented cases of people burying one in mud, coming back weeks later, banging it on the ground a few times, knocking the dirt out of the barrel and firing it.

"best" is highly objective, an original AK-47 is one of the most durable and reliable weapons around, accuracy is shit, and they are heavy and sloppily made. newer models like the AK-74, AK-101, AKM, and the AK knockoffs have tighter, less "spacey" mechanisms, improving accuracy, but less resistant to dirt and jamming.