Poll: Gay Characters in RPGs

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Mcface

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Leodiensian said:
Mcface said:
Leodiensian said:
None of this changes the fact that most gamers would rather no play a gay guy.
cool story though, bro.

And if you want the OPTION to play a gay character, make a game yourself.

Dont expect it from people who are making the game they want to.
I suppose I have no one but myself to blame for feeding this troll but.. did you actually read my post? You are not "most gamers" and hence can't speak for "most gamers". You do not know that "most gamers" would actively steer away from a game in which the protagonist is gay. If you do, that's you own thing, but you are objectively wrong here. Just look up at the poll results. "Most gamers" don't have a problem with playing a gay protagonist; they care more about the quality of the game.

To turn your logic back on you:

If you want the option to play as a manly space marine, make a game yourself.

Don't expect it from people who are making the game they want to.
Its quite obvious.
If there was an overwhelming want for gay characters, then we would not be having this discussion because they would already BE in games.

And just because I disagree with you, I'm a troll, obviously.

so, so typical.

I'm pretty sure I've heard people yell "******" in AT LEAST 30 different games I've played on XBL, and even more on PC, hell, probably ever game I've played. I highly doubt those same people would be cool playing a game as a gay character.

If you choose to be ignorant, fine. But we both know how most gamers are, and act.
 

Takoto

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I wouldn't care if the main character was gay, straight, or a transvestite.

Although, I'm bias on the matter as I'm bisexual so...
 

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waterhazard said:
Why is there no option of "I don't care about my charecters sexuality he could be into the freakydeaky sutff if that got him off I just want to play the game"
That's option 1.

Oh and gay characters in RPGs has been done before. It's not new territory. In fact it's so common that people barely even notice most of the time, just like real-life gayness.
 

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Julianking93 said:
It doesn't really matter. Are any of them really straight?

Look me in the eye and tell me this guy isn't gay:

[spoiler/][image/]http://www.split-screen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/final-fantasy-xii.jpg[/IMG][/spoiler]
Actually he is. At least in the sequel.
 

axlr4

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zelos from tales of synphonia gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Well, I wouldn't really care, but just like a Gay guy would like to play as a Gay character, I would prefer a Straight character. I would just relate to them more.

But, Gay Tony is too awesome to not want to play with.
 

Mr. Purple

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Ummm, wtf? You just made a poll where every answer looks at homosexuality as a bad thing.

ITS NOT.

I have no problem with any character in any game ever being gay. What is your problem?
 

Leodiensian

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Mcface said:
Its quite obvious.
If there was an overwhelming want for gay characters, then we would not be having this discussion because they would already BE in games.

I'm pretty sure I've heard people yell "******" in AT LEAST 30 different games I've played on XBL, and even more on PC, hell, probably ever game I've played. I highly doubt those same people would be cool playing a game as a gay character.

If you choose to be ignorant, fine. But we both know how most gamers are, and act.
The poll is objectively, mathematically showing you are wrong - seventy five percent of people would welcome gay protagonists and only ten percent would be against it. You have anecdotal evidence, but here we have statistical evidence which is much stronger from a debater's perspective.
 

josetaco

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Wasn't there an ultima game where the character could chose to be gay? Can't rember which one its an older one though.
 

Mcface

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Leodiensian said:
Mcface said:
Its quite obvious.
If there was an overwhelming want for gay characters, then we would not be having this discussion because they would already BE in games.

I'm pretty sure I've heard people yell "******" in AT LEAST 30 different games I've played on XBL, and even more on PC, hell, probably ever game I've played. I highly doubt those same people would be cool playing a game as a gay character.

If you choose to be ignorant, fine. But we both know how most gamers are, and act.
The poll is objectively, mathematically showing you are wrong - seventy five percent of people would welcome gay protagonists and only ten percent would be against it. You have anecdotal evidence, but here we have statistical evidence which is much stronger from a debater's perspective.
Thats the escapist, and in no way represents the majority of gamers.
This particular website attracts the a certain type of person, for the most part.
 

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I don't know why, but I find the vast one-sidedness of the poll answers to be very gratifying.

I agree wholeheartedly. I don't think it would matter at all, and I'd even be curious to play an RPG like that (I'd probably trust it more in the JRPG mold, in that regard, since more effort is typically put into the characterization).
 

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There have been RPGs that give the player character the choice to a same-sex relationship, and this is only a good thing. In a genre that touts choice, the player should have the ability craft almost any character they can dream of (within in the boundaries of the game's world/mechanics, of course). Jade Empire did this well, for instance, and tends to be remembered for this choice, though the actual cutscene was pretty tame. Mass Effect recently caused a scandal for this reason, although to me the F/F pairing in question was designed more for male fanservice than anything else. Dragon Age: Origins is set to have an M/M pairing available, though few details have been released. While I'm not gay, I do enjoy RPing as gay characters from time to time because it puts an interesting spin on the whole savior-of-humanity thing that most RPGs love to embrace.
 

tjcross

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doesn't sound like it would effect anything that much the only problem is the game would be attacked by every homophobic moron were the internet is available which includes about 25-75 percent of the people who teabag.
 

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I'd say that most JRPGS already DO feature gay characters! (ba-dum-tish!)

In all seriousness, no, it wouldn't affect whether I played the game or not. The fact that it's an RPG would probably do more to turn me off than a gay character (nothing against the genre, I just don't play very many...)
 

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I think that alot of people have their statistics out of whack. In 2006, the highest percentage of people that identified themselves as gay or bisexual was in San Francisco, which reported 15.9%. There is no way that the average is anything like you guys have claimed.
 

Leodiensian

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Mcface said:
Leodiensian said:
The poll is objectively, mathematically showing you are wrong - seventy five percent of people would welcome gay protagonists and only ten percent would be against it. You have anecdotal evidence, but here we have statistical evidence which is much stronger from a debater's perspective.
Thats the escapist, and in no way represents the majority of gamers.
This particular website attracts the a certain type of person, for the most part.
Correct, it does attract a certain type of person; it attracts gamers and people who play video games, people who talk and read about video games. And in a sample of 360 of these gamers, from varying nationalities, religious backgrounds and ethnic groups, 75% of them claimed they would not mind. And bear in mind that the majority of the people who voted will not be identifying as bi or gay. It's not a great sample size for some big psychological experiment, but it's still 12 times bigger than your 30 alleged anecdotal games and hence a far better platform to be base statements about what "most gamers" want.

Once more to turn your logic back on itself, multiplayer gaming attracts a certain type of person. A more competitive type, and possibly a type more prone to homophobic language; I'm not going to deny that. However, the option to play a gay character is currently most often found in non-MMO RPGs, which are single player. Not everyone plays multiplayer, of course; I practically never do and the last time I played something like Counterstrike was years ago, because I've been playing games for years but I'm not that competitive.

I personally am much more about the single player experience, because I'm interested in games both as an entertainment platform and as an emergent narrative platform. I want to see what designers can come up with - good or bad - because it's such a young medium that it's really still finding its feet in the grand scheme of things and the only way it'll learn is by trying new things. That means dabbling in things like character and narrative structure should be encouraged, from my point of view. If gamers try to stifle this through claiming they just wont play as a gay character, or a black character, or a girl character, we'll be stuck with some interchangable hetero caucasian male supersoldiers in cover shooters on various dirty-brown planets fighting aliens.

Variety is the spice of life. Overlord lets you play as the bad guy - it wasn't a great game from a gaming perspective, but it was fun to have that twist on a classic narrative formula. Mirror's Edge makes combat really ill-advised and focusses on platforming, which it actually pulls off really well despite having a first person perspective. Doing something with a fresh perspective can make a good game great and a mediocre game pretty good. And the only way we'll find out if a game with a gay protagonist can be enjoyable is when one gets made and put out there for general consumption and, most importantly, if gamers can be open minded. And, if this survey is anything to go by, the game won't be panned just for having a gay character; it'll be judged fairly on whether or not it's a good game.
 

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I voted "Yeah, just not the one i'm playing as", but it depends more than that, an RPG like fable would be odd as a gay character, as I myself am not gay. However a game where he just happens to be gay with a fairly normal plot and all that, no worries.

Basically as long as I don't have to pretend to be gay to play it, I would.
 

Azulito

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I wouldn't mind in the least. What people want to do with their lives is up to them.

The only thing that does bug me is the 'gay voice' where they speak with a bit of a lisp (Hard to explain but you know what I mean). It just really bugs me xD.

I don't mind gays/lesbians. They're still people.