Poll: Girls love a bad boy

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meaculpa

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ryuutchi said:
meaculpa said:
ryuutchi said:
So missing the point here. So missing the point.
What's the point then? I know who I'd rather have when presented with a 'bad boy' and a decent bloke lol
Well, for one thing, as many of the...
...useless, pointless and insulting to women and, to a lesser extent, men.
And I think you are assuming I am ignoring all of those things.
I was talking of those typical 'bad boys' who like to show off and do all of those things. Of course there a mixes and that not all these people can be grouped into this single, stereotypical group, after all not everything is black and white. What I was speaking of was the guys that DO fuck you about, that do do all of those things.

While I understand personal taste and wanting to find someone like yourself, as you pointed out, I was stating my opinion that I do not understand why some women would want to find themselves someone who is going to cause them trouble when I'm sure they could find someone not un-like to themselves who isn't going to. Find a bad boy who you spoke about, one of these un-stereotypical boys, but I was speaking of the stereotypical type.

Is that more clear then my first response? And, by the by, thank you for pointing out that my comment was rather closed and that maybe I should have explained myself better
 

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I wonder at that, because I'm pretty much a nice guy and every girl I know has always seen me as a friend, but whenever I try and make a move on any girl she always wants to stay 'just friends'. Why is it that girls always go for the guy who treats them bad and then the 'best friend' guy is always the one whose shoulder they cry on when they get dumped, but never the one who they want to date in the first place? It really annoys me so much...
 

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Trivun said:
I wonder at that, because I'm pretty much a nice guy and every girl I know has always seen me as a friend, but whenever I try and make a move on any girl she always wants to stay 'just friends'. Why is it that girls always go for the guy who treats them bad and then the 'best friend' guy is always the one whose shoulder they cry on when they get dumped, but never the one who they want to date in the first place? It really annoys me so much...
Cause now your the friend guy, who just listens to all her problems, I guarantee it's your approach, as I have stated in this post before, girls like, but aren't overly attracted too bleeding hearts. Girls don't like assholes, they like confident and masculine men.
 

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I'm a dude, and being an ass hasn't landed me any tale so far, though girls tend to pay more attention to me than other random nerds (usually with annoyance, but, hey, whatever works)

Also, anyone else find it funny that 228/266 people are dudes in this thread?
 

Major_Sam

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I LOVE bad boys. Can't help it. But I could never see myself going out with one though. Wouldn't trust them. But I do dislike guys that are overly nice. I like a bit of attitude when the time is right.
 

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In my experince, if you are a bad ass, and act like one, most hot girls go after you. If you want someone with a brain then you'd better have a personality beyond just a typical "bad boy".
 

darkless

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I dunno I never have and never will be considered a "bad boy" but I've had a good few girlfriends.
 

VitalSigns

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So a hot girl can't have a good personality? This thread has had some of the most stereotyping I've ever read. Maybe it's different for me, I'm a guy very open about my nerdy passions, and I've never had any problems with girls and can say pretty much all the girls I've dated have been attractive and had good personalities
 

TruthMan

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So for every nice guy out there i have this to say gamers chix mostly like nice guys every other girl wants a bad boy and for my proof i give you science. read em an weep

http://www.laddertheory.com/
 

VitalSigns

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Hahaha for proof you give a theory.
And you say " gamer chix" like they are this other version of normal women.
Wrong wrong wrong
 

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Interesting discussion. I will probably ramble omn about my own experiences rather than make any coherent points, but here we go...

It is partially the way in which people from various social groups act but I have found that once I stopped playing 40k and doing my homework and instead started to take & sell drugs, go to parties & raves and generally stop being a good little boy, I suddenly became a lot more popular with the ladies.
I treated fellow "party people" girls well and was very well liked, I ended up staying with one girl for 8 years. I think this was more due to shared interests and me treating her well when others treated her very badly rather than the 'bad boy effect'. There are different grades of bad boy from 'a bit naughty' through 'total asshol'e and 'thoroughly criminal ************' etc
I found I was more popular amongst the "good girls" as well, but I wouldn't give them the time of day, which made some want me even more, one girl hung around for the best part of 5 years despite being told repeatedly that nothing was ever going to happen between us.
 

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ryuutchi said:
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Did it ever cross that testosterone-charged mind of yours that those "bad boys" are just as bad as your so-called "pathetic losers"? They want the exact same thing. SEX. Just because they go about it in different ways doesn't make one pathetic or better than the other.

I also detest your generalization that all nice guys are only nice because they think that's the only way they'll get any. That is some straight-up, classic bullshit. I'll fully admit that I'm a wuss. Does that mean I'm only nice because that's the only way I'll ever get laid?
A lot of so-called "Bad Boys" are not actually bad boys, IME. They end up looking like a jerk to guys like the ones on this thread who see that fact that they're getting rejected as a slur on the "bad boy"'s character.

And honestly, many, many women have developed a good sense for telling when someone is interested in them for sex, and a guy who's straightforward about it is a hell of a lot less annoying than someone who's passive aggressive. Maybe that bad boy is in it for sex-- maybe that's what the woman wants. In that case, why not choose the guy who is straight-forward and forthright about his attraction?

Maybe you're not nice because it will get you laid, but be damn sure that the wussy passive-aggressive shit turns people off. It doesn't preclude you ever getting laid, but it's still annoying as anything.
I didn't realize that being polite and caring was suddenly irritating to people. My mistake.

Oh, if you couldn't figure it out, that was sarcasm.
 

The Key of J

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TruthMan said:
So for every nice guy out there i have this to say gamers chix mostly like nice guys every other girl wants a bad boy and for my proof i give you science. read em an weep

http://www.laddertheory.com/
This is not a real scientific theory, this is psychological soft science. Real science needs to be able to be proved or disproved. The problem with this is that it generalizes the masses into categories that don't cover everyone.

VitalSigns said:
Cause now your the friend guy, who just listens to all her problems, I guarantee it's your approach, as I have stated in this post before, girls like, but aren't overly attracted too bleeding hearts. Girls don't like assholes, they like confident and masculine men.
This guy knows what he's talking about, LISTEN to him.


meaculpa said:
What's the point then? I know who I'd rather have when presented with a 'bad boy' and a decent bloke lol
LIES!!!! All Lies!!! :p
 

ThrobbingEgo

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The whole "girls like bad boys" argument is just thinly veiled misogyny. A so-called nice guy can't understand why girls don't like him - sees a couple of girls dating total sociopaths - and decides that woman are somehow incapable of being with thoughtful, kind, honest men. They create fantasies and strategies to make themselves into "bad boys" - to "get" women - and the false confidence works sometimes. But this doesn't mean all girls like bad boys.

My philosophy professor told my class "in terms of goodness, everyone either assumes they are in the top 25 percentile, or they're depressed." We're not all in the top 25 percentile - but we think we are. If someone doesn't like us, well, that can't be our fault. Its got to be something else's fault. We're great. We're all fans of ourselves.

Women make up roughly half of the human population. They are as varied in their wants, needs and values as any man. Let's not even pretend that you can lump them all together into a single mound of cleavage.

If women aren't interested in you, you have to ask yourself, "how can I improve (read: improve, not play make believe and become someone else) and what do I need?" Are you insecure? Insecurity can be unattractive. Are you healthy? Being healthy is almost universally attractive. Do you know what qualities you're looking for in a romantic partner, or are you just jumping at anything with breasts? If the latter applies, then you're not really into her for her are you? Just something to mull over.