Poll: Glenn Beck has hitler tourette's

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Swifteye said:
The dude is quite mad. But not mad like how tyra banks is mad. No that can be chaulked up to just having too much sugar in her diet. Glen becks madness scares me because it seems like an honest reaction contrary to the fact that it comes off as crazy and bizzare.
Remember when he did standup that one time? What was that about? It almost feels like some giant ploy. But I can't understand for what. Does glenn beck really honest with the things he says. Or is he weaving the most increduble troll ploy since the creation of My immortal?

My bet? He's a lizard man.
Great, you made me think of the Tyra Banks lizard from Family Guy...

Anyway, it's pretty clear that Beck is entirely aware he's an entertainer. More's the pity. I mean, he isn't crazy and as a classmate discovered he's not stupid. But, he is playing a character to a crowd. He's a lot like Bobcat Goldthwait back in the 90s when he would always remain in character for his appearances.

That said, I do think the character he's playing is incredibly destructive, and I can't tell you if he gives a shit or not.
 

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I vote yes. I didn't need to watch the clip (and couldn't, being from the UK. I'll just have to wait a couple of days until it's syndicated over here.)

Irridium said:
I prefer John Stewart's other short.

I believe its titled "go fuck yourself", and he tells people (mainly FOX and religious extremists) to go fuck themselves. And he sings it along with a choir. Its amazing.

But yeah, Glen Beck is a moron.
I prefer this one:
Glenn Beck's rule: If you subscribe to an idea, you also subscribe to every possible negative consequence that that idea remotely implies when you carry it to absurd extremes.

Where was he when Bush was pushing through the Patriot Act, calling the Constitution "just a God-damn piece of paper" and generally taking a colossal dump on civil liberties?
 

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Anyone else looked up Beck's background info?
Because apparently he used to be a violent sort of alcoholic. Also, he went to Yale for a single semester as a Theology major - thanks to none other than Senator Joe Lieberman - before dropping out. He's also a Mormon. He joined Latter Day Saints as a prerequisite for marrying his second wife. Talk about a roller-coaster life.
Seriously, the guy's had a hell of a time of it.
No wonder his brain's turned into a buckshot-riddled turd along the way.
I almost feel sorry for him. I mean, really, the guy's had a hard life and I kinda understand why he does what he does. It makes him feel good to know that he's having some sort of influence on the way people think, and it doesn't matter to him whether that influence is a good thing or a bad thing in the long run. I WOULD feel sorry for him, that is, except for the little fact that his blind, spastic, fanatical brand of insanity is infecting the populace of my country and turning normal people into brainwashed, racist fools who are so damn scared that their country is gonna be taken away by the big bad man in the White House that they can't even manage to stop and consider just how ridiculous the conspiracy theories they're being force-fed are. Seriously - DEATH PANELS? Government's gonna come kill Grandma? Barack Obama has "a deep-seated hatred for white people?" Glenn Beck is a force for illiteracy, backwards thinking, racism, and all the things that everyone thought we had left behind in the '50s.
He deserves no attention, though I must give him SOME, because he's a comedy goldmine - he's the personification of hyperbole. He is his own caricature.
Only in America.
 

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I shouldn't feed the trolls, but...

Glenn Beck is no fool. Don't think for a moment that he doesn't know exactly what he's doing and how he's doing it. He has successfully framed argument so that people will assume there's no opposing position to socialism on the political spectrum - which is to assert that his own position is inherently moral and faultless. Even the most junior student of politics understands better than this.

He has successfully conflated fascism and socialism in the minds of enough people - which is true only in the extent of control that government seeks to exert. Curiously, he did not seem to have a problem with the level of government intrusion when warrantless wiretapping, "extraordinary rendition" and the more extreme provisions of the USA-PATRIOT Act were being raised by the "liberal-biased" media. Yet somehow it's an issue when the Government wants to get its hands on "your" Medicare or protect people from their own foolishness by restricting banks and loan agencies from predatory lending? From across the Pacific, it seems funny how it's always the Government and never the industrialists with the economic and media power base who are the problem for cable news pundits...

He resorts to reductio ad absurdia to relate anything that the new administration does to Communist China/Nazi Germany/Stalinist Russia, emotionalist diatribes that aren't backed up with a shred of non-circumstantial evidence, engages Godwin's Law on a regular basis, and assumes that race is never an issue in how white people behave (leaving aside that social, economic and political structures in many Western democracies have an inherent bias towards white English-speakers from middle-class or more affluent backgrounds). The sad thing is that the disaffected, the angry, the uneducated and the uncritical tend to accept such things as fact - IMHO, because it meets an otherwise-unfulfilled need for an explanation which casts them as the virtuous and "government" as the enemy (almost like a sanitised version of Marxism peddled by large media outlets).

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Of course, I think this shows it better than any amount of reasoned argument from me (apologies in advance for the 30-second ad at the start - tech noob here):

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-march-18-2010/conservative-libertarian
 

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after replying to the poll, it saddens me that there are 36 "no" votes. even if you're conservative...glenn beck is a total nutterbutter! he and anne coulter (she's even crazier than he is!) should hang out...they could keep each other busy, and i won't have to hear them making nonsensical leaps of judgment.
 

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Okay, just to chime in on socialism for a sec; it's not about lazy it's about opportunity. Not everyone that's downtrodden is so because they choose to or choose not to. The sad truth is that with power comes responsibility, and not necessarily to one's self. I don't understand this "greed is good" mindset people have accepted so vehemently recently, but economies fail when people fail each other. It is our responsibility to ensure our neighbors are safe and happy for our sakes, and vice versa. If we fail to do this we get exactly what we have now; the widening rift between those that have and those that have not, money falling in great heaps upon the laps of few, while the many do without, not because they were lazy, but because they just didn't happen to have the same opportunities.

Schools, parks, police, fire, all socialized. If we're going to exist as a bunch of self-serving rats, then why not go all the way? Privatize those institutions as well, so that people with money can be good and sure their children will be safer without poor folk around, clogging up their classrooms, or some jobless schlep isn't taking precious resources away by being rescued by a perfectly useful cop that could be making the streets safer for people that pay for them.

Socialism is only a dirty word because of radical connotations. I emphasize again that I take neither side, and frankly welcome the chaos, simply because I know that people are by and large much too intrinsically stupid to learn from their repeated mistakes. We deserve every last bit of corruption, greed, monopolistic corporate mongering, and short-sighted profit for long term financial decline. Like rats scurrying over one another in a flooding basement, concerned only with themselves, this is the era of entitlement, and it's all downhill from here.

OT: Glenn Beck was a little more moderate once, when he was on CNN, so I never understood this new crackpot Fox News persona he's adopted. It's silly, and anyone that takes him seriously probably should not be argued with, as his viewers are likely rigid thinkers given to the same kind of loony propagandist bullshit that made a sweet old woman become reviled by the masses for subscribing to the thoughts of Governor "I can see Russia" and revealing to a racist presidential candidate that she was afraid of a man that allegedly "pals around with terrorists". Seems she forgot about Dub-yuh's friendly business with the Bin Ladens. Ah well...

If nothing else, we should be grateful Glenn Beck has a show, if for no other reason than to give guys at Comedy Central an easy mark for easy laughs.
 

Smokeydubbs

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I'm very late in this thread and I only read the first page BUT

ikey said:
Personally, I think Beck watches videos on nazi's thinking about how much better he thinks the world would be if they won the war. Then he goes on the show, and blames every one he doesn't like for being one of the people whose regimes he admire. I don't really care if that made sense, I'm angry steam won't open on my mac.
It's quotes like this that make me angry. Obviously you don't watch the show, you have such strong opinions for being so ignorant. What does NAZI stand for, National Socialism. What is the current (and select few in the past) administration doing? Nationalizing the private sector. Nationalizing is Socialism plain and simple. Do I believe Beck can get pretty hokey? Yes, some of his cry sessions are pretty awkward. But the point of his show is still there. Watch the show, connect some dots, be productive.

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Sonic Doctor said:
Glenn Beck is a genius in the fact that he is using commonsense to show how we will lose our freedoms if we don't stand up to the socialist agenda and show them that they can't tell us what to do.

We are Americans, we are free. We don't answer to the government, the government is to answer to us.

The problem that people have with Beck, is that they can't refute what he says because he has the facts on his side.
Yes, the government answer to us, which means we basically lack one. At least England could take us over and actually make things better if we had no government. I'm to the point where America getting taken over so we can get free health care is fine by me. You on the other hand, seem to hate anyone who isn't rich and feel the poor should be poorer and the rich should be richer. [sarcasm]Yeah, real smart.[/sarcasm]
Here's a good little quote that you should remember. "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

But on you assuming his opinions. If you believe in the Capitalist system, that doesn't automatically make you hate the poor or love the rich.
 

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He's a very intelligent person. I personally don't have what it takes to make millions of people follow my words blindly.
 

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"Empathy leads you to very bad decisions." Gee wiz, I hope that's not true, or a lot of doctors and nurses are doing their job horribly wrong...
 
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Smokeydubbs said:
What does NAZI stand for, National Socialism. What is the current (and select few in the past) administration doing? Nationalizing the private sector. Nationalizing is Socialism plain and simple.
Wow...

Just Wow.

You've actually compared Obama to Hitler. With a straight face.

Just wow.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Smokeydubbs said:
What does NAZI stand for, National Socialism. What is the current (and select few in the past) administration doing? Nationalizing the private sector. Nationalizing is Socialism plain and simple.
Wow...

Just Wow.

You've actually compared Obama to Hitler. With a straight face.

Just wow.
Do I see the word "Hitler" in my post? NO. Do I see the word "Socialism" in my post? Yes. I'm saying it's Socialism. Was I referring that Obama is like Hitler in anyway? Well was Hitler a Socialist? So I guess I did compare them if Obama himself is a Socialist, which he seems to be. Does Obama want to run the country with an Iron Fist and have troops walking the streets? I don't think he does. Does Obama want to exterminate a race of people? No, I don't think he does. Did Hitler want to redistribute the wealth? Yes. Does Obama want to redistribute the wealth?

Lets see:


So I guess I compared them inadvertently without even saying either of their names. I was talking about Socialism. Is any Socialist a Nazi by default?

Now go back to your hole.
 

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Archangel357 said:
The average republican can't point out Germany on a map, much less does he know anything about European history. The only thing he knows is "Hitler" and even his understanding of that is only a very nebulous definition of "teh badz".

Hell, the average republican thinks that health care is more akin to nazi atrocities than invading countries, killing civilians and torturing people.

The average republican, therefore, is easily swayed by anything a hate-monger like Glenn Beck says.

The only good thing is that they give us in actual civilised countries a perennial target for our scorn, contempt and ridicule. The average republican, to people who can read and write, is a fucking joke.
Your generalizations are HORRIBLE. The average Republicans are educated, hard working people. People who earn what they work for. People that know better than what you think they know. I take offense to what you said because of how untrue it is. And referring that America is uncivilized is the "fucking joke". All I gotta say is Fuck you, and get off your horse.
 
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Smokeydubbs said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Smokeydubbs said:
What does NAZI stand for, National Socialism. What is the current (and select few in the past) administration doing? Nationalizing the private sector. Nationalizing is Socialism plain and simple.
Wow...

Just Wow.

You've actually compared Obama to Hitler. With a straight face.

Just wow.
So I guess I did compare them if Obama himself is a Socialist, which he seems to be.
So you did then. Problem is that Hitler wasn't a socialist. He was a national socialist, and even then he diverted the party from it's original ideals into the Third Reich.

To put a basic point across: Words that sound the same can be used in different context. A woman who goes into the Labour party does not come to the end of her pregnancy. Someone can be conservative with their estimates without being Conservative.

Does Obama want to exterminate a race of people? No, I don't think he does.
The point you even questioned that is worthy of Fox News.
Did Hitler want to redistribute the wealth? Yes. Does Obama want to redistribute the wealth?
Did Carter, Lincoln, Clinton, Reagan, Bush, Thatcher, Mugabe, Stalin, Lenin, Churchill, Major, Pot want to re-distribute the wealth?...Yes, they all did.
Lets see:
I was talking about Socialism.
No, you weren't.
Smokeydubbs said:
What does NAZI stand for, National Socialism. What is the current (and select few in the past) administration doing? Nationalizing the private sector. Nationalizing is Socialism plain and simple.
You are directly comparing Nazism to Socialism, which is what I brought you up on. Not mentioning the names of the leaders of those parties doesn't hold you any less responsible for slanders against either.
Now go back to your hole.
At the Escapist, we try and keep our conversations free of personal attacks. I hope you can do the same.