Poll: Has Sony already won?

[IronMit]

EA and ubisoft just announced some really good cross platform games. including the division?omg what was that!!?
Unless PS4 have some amazing AAA exclusives (other then killzone , infamous) they definitely have not outright 'won'.
Don't forget about the stubborness of fan boys...the PS4 needs to be 2x better to get them to doubt allegiances.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I would almost proclaim Sony the victor by default.

 

[Saltyk]

They've yet to clarify their policy on DRM or address any of the rumours about second-hand sales beyond "We're leaving it up to publishers". They've yet to announce price. There are still plenty of ways Sony could fuck this up.

Very true, but all they have to do is confirm this stuff isn't true and release at a lower price point and they've got it made.

The Xbox One is the best PR Sony and Nintendo have ever had. Let's hope those two don't fuck it up.

Seriously though £429?! Fuck that!

There is so much truth in this statement. As I have said to some coworkers: "You know, the more I hear about the XBox One, the more excited I get for the PS4."

So far, the XBOne has been Sony's best friend. If Sony avoids the same pitfalls, has a lower price, and can get it out at the same time or earlier, they will have a VERY strong foothold.

They've yet to clarify their policy on DRM or address any of the rumours about second-hand sales beyond "We're leaving it up to publishers". They've yet to announce price. There are still plenty of ways Sony could fuck this up.

Very true, but all they have to do is confirm this stuff isn't true and release at a lower price point and they've got it made.

That's the issue. I'm one of those cynical people who don't think Sony will make that announcement. I think it's pretty clearly looking like there's going to be some form of publisher-led DRM with games on PS4. There's no way publishers would push Microsoft for such a restrictive system while not expecting the same from Sony. Their previous comments have suggested DRM from publishers. I'm expecting a confirmation of that sometime soon, not a refutation.

Here's something I was thinking about today. Sony has said there will be no Online Requirement, last I heard. If there is no online requirement, they can't enforce DRM or Used Game Fees. Therefore, I don't think that's too much of a worry. I could be wrong on all counts, but I feel some small glimmer of hope in that.

 

[Childe]

Thank you Scolipede,

I find it hysterical that after a conference where Microsoft focused on games, people say they still suck. I agree that the Xbox One is horrid as a console, but the games they showed are pretty kickass. Especially Titanfall.

I thinking that people are thinking the cons of the console outweigh the pros of the games. As a horrid example would you play a game that is perfect but when you died in the game you died in real life? the games might be fun but the console it self will proabably such the life out of the games

 

[conmag9]

We know pretty much nothing about PS4, so it's obviously impossible to call. That said, were this an actual foot race, Microsoft would be the guy who showed up drunk, heavily drugged, with a twisted ankle and no pants. Sony could, theoretically, have similar problems when it takes the starting position, but I'm thinking that they're smart enough to learn from Microsoft's abysmal start (which might be why we haven't heard anything yet, they've played their cards close to the chest, if you'll pardon the analogy change, so they can change things last minute and look much better for it).

I'm hoping they do well, at any rate. I like the playstation series of consoles FAR more than the Xboxes. Nintendo screwed up with their ridiculous controler on the Wii U, but at least they didn't do nearly as bad as Microsoft.

Captcha: that's enough

Fine, fine, I'll end there.

 

[Korten12]

Here's something I was thinking about today. Sony has said there will be no Online Requirement, last I heard. If there is no online requirement, they can't enforce DRM or Used Game Fees. Therefore, I don't think that's too much of a worry. I could be wrong on all counts, but I feel some small glimmer of hope in that.

That's my thought... But maybe the game will require an internet connection to load up?

 

[Saltyk]

Here's something I was thinking about today. Sony has said there will be no Online Requirement, last I heard. If there is no online requirement, they can't enforce DRM or Used Game Fees. Therefore, I don't think that's too much of a worry. I could be wrong on all counts, but I feel some small glimmer of hope in that.

That's my thought... But maybe the game will require an internet connection to load up?

That would still be an Online Requirement. Which, if what Sony said before is accurate, they don't have. And honestly, that would be WORSE than the XBOne system.

 

[EHKOS]

Nintendo is still on the board, if not for the Wii U then surely for the 3ds. That thing is great, Animal Crossing is turning out decent too.

And while I love Sony, I'm not buying their console. Sure I hope they win, but I'm not participating in Next Gen, so I won't be buying anything. Plus just because a new console is coming out doesn't mean the PS3 will die. It will still get new games.

My bias towards M$ is great, so I'll be laughing at their demise, my Sony hasn't won yet. I had a dream I saw the PS4 and all my brain came up with was two fat PS2's welded together. We gotta see the console.

 

[Korten12]

Well firstly, Sony patented a hardware mechanic a while ago that acts as DRM without needing an online connection. It essentially 'marks' any disc after it it first played. If they were to go down the route of DRM, they've already got a patent that would let them do so without ever needing an online connection.

They already clarified that though. It was for blu-ray players. For movies, they said it wouldn't be for Playstation.

 

[Saltyk]

Here's something I was thinking about today. Sony has said there will be no Online Requirement, last I heard. If there is no online requirement, they can't enforce DRM or Used Game Fees. Therefore, I don't think that's too much of a worry. I could be wrong on all counts, but I feel some small glimmer of hope in that.

Well firstly, Sony patented a hardware mechanic a while ago that acts as DRM without needing an online connection. It essentially 'marks' any disc after it it first played. If they were to go down the route of DRM, they've already got a patent that would let them do so without ever needing an online connection.

Secondly, I think it's foolish to assume the PS4 will never need to go online. Games will need patches. Software will need updating. I don't think there are many players out there who will never connect their PS4 to the internet, and Sony knows that.

Thirdly, there is nothing to say that Sony aren't correct in saying the PS4 doesn't require an online connection. Because Sony could then simply argue that the PS4 doesn't need to play used games to function. They could very well argue that the console is perfectly able to play brand new games without ever needing to connect to the internet. If you want to play used games, however, that would be an extra service which would require an internet connection.

Never forget, Sony were one of the first console publishers to jump on the whole online pass thing, and they've already said that DRM is going to be up to the publisher. Whatever news comes out of tonight's conference, I'll be very surprised if there isn't some ugly announcements in the near future about publishers' plans for used games on the PS4.

Why must you try to crush my small ray of hope? What did it ever do to you?

Seriously, I really hope Sony cancels any such plans to do so, if they have them. The sheer amount of backlash that Microsoft has received should give them some pause for thought. I would hope. Like I said, I could be wrong on all counts, but I really hope this is something that they don't opt for. Because I'm not sure what I'll do at that point. Buy a Wii U? Create a top notch gaming PC?

 

[uchytjes]

They pulled back from the edge, but are still pretty damn close. Sony, however, could easily run off said edge into the abyss if they don't realize that the xbone stopped for a reason. Nintendo is still being Nintendo, which is both good and bad for the same reason it has since it's inception.

 

[Tony2077]

well since m$ came out with a shotgun and blew there feet off i doubt Sony could do any worse

 

[DANEgerous]

Killer Instinct looks sub-par, Sony will have Planet side two and CD Universe online and people are excited for it's line up, Will watching the games all i can here is But i have a PC then start falling asleep and hearing (TV TV TV TV Sport TV MOCAP DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) the killer apps are just not hitting hard enough for Xbox One and it will be the most expansive system and the last to launch. Add to that Wii U will still have a big mark on the casual and family crowd and the fate of the Xbox looks very grim.

 

[Tom_green_day]

Ok, I know the Xbox One is flawed, but with the amount of people on here mindlessly attacking it I have a hard time sympathising with Sony unless they give the absolute perfect conference, people are just blindly following them (literally)

 

[Echo136]

After seeing that $500 price for Xbone im pretty sure it was the final nail on the coffin. Haha.

 

[Splitzi]

It seems to me like everyone is mad at Microsoft when they've been more open with information than Sony, Yes, it may have been contradictory at first, but it smoothed out a bit since then. Sony has not been very forthcoming with official information, yet somehow Microsoft gets ripped for being more honest about their machine.

 

[AstylahAthrys]

Sony could have easily won me over with the PS4 with how outraged I was in the very beginning about the Xbox One. They failed to, and I think they will fail to with many more gamers. If the price is $50-$100 less, Microsoft will have a hard time keeping up, and if it's more than $100, Sony just might be able to really kick butt, even if it's not overly impressive, because at least it will be cheaper and less intrusive.

Anyway, it's way too early to tell. A thousand different things could happen to change the scope of the console wars and I'm certainly not going to place any bets any time soon.

Edit: Just heard it's $400. Plus to Sony. It's charging for online gaming, though. Minus to Sony, since that was a major selling point with the PS3 for many. No DRM, plus to Sony. Still don't think it's the nail in the coffin. Wii U is significantly cheaper with free online and still not likely to shine.

 

[NoeL]

So, the PS4 will cost $100 less, won't limit used game sales/trades and won't require an online connection... yep, they completely OBLITERATED Microsoft. Did you hear the applause they got from just stating "Hey, we're not out to fuck you over"? It shows how completely unimpressed the audience there were with Microsoft's decisions.

As far as the big boys go, PS4 has just won - no question. We've yet to see what Nintendo has though, so nothing can be called just yet.