Poll: "If you cry, you're weak."

[justnotcricket]

Crying is natural, and in many cases a response to circumstances that you can't help. I believe everyone has the right to cry - man, woman, child, dog, whatever.

The thing I think people could leave off is sniveling - you know, the whiny crying that people only do to get attention and complain and guilt others into things with. That can cease immediately as far as I'm concerned.

 

[KiruTheMant]

no, if you are a man over the age of 18 it is not ok to cry, with the obvious exception of a loved one dieing, or your house burning down, tragic stuff. according to the geneva convention article 7 a man caught crying in public is not allowed alcohol nor can he be told any great jokes ... ladies however get a special cry pass to cry inpublic or alone whenever unless those tears are used minipulatively in which case your cry card is suspended for 3 months, and in 14 states, 13 countries and Canada if you are caught crying in public any woman who sees you is allowed to ***** slap you without penalty

Was that sarcasm or is it just me?

 

[Elle-Jai]

no, if you are a man over the age of 18 it is not ok to cry, with the obvious exception of a loved one dieing, or your house burning down, tragic stuff. according to the geneva convention article 7 a man caught crying in public is not allowed alcohol nor can he be told any great jokes ... ladies however get a special cry pass to cry inpublic or alone whenever unless those tears are used minipulatively in which case your cry card is suspended for 3 months, and in 14 states, 13 countries and Canada if you are caught crying in public any woman who sees you is allowed to ***** slap you without penalty

Was that sarcasm or is it just me?

I haven't the faintest idea. Although the special cry pass is an interesting idea... And I wonder what the judging criteria would be for "manipulative tears"?

 

[Palademon]

I can't cry. Even when I want to I just can't get it to come out. It's a really horrible feeling.

Same.

 

[TheSeventhLoneWolf]

Only real men cry.

[Man being the term for mankind. Men and women]

 

[Marmooset]

It's fine to cry.
As long as you dispose of any witnesses.

 

[Crono Maniac]

Well, maybe if you're playing Chrono Cross.

NO! NOT LUCCA!

 

[Kaymish]

its ok but only with good reason and it doesn't ruin my chances of survival

 

[Ishadus]

Eh. I'd say the reaction of "tears means you're a pussy" as well as the reaction of "you should cry anytime/anywhere else you'll be emotionally duressed later" are both equally stupidly inane.

As with more cases, both extremes are negative (despite ignorant advocates of them) while there is a happy middle ground somewhere.

Never showing a tear to another because of a belief it makes you less of a man is completely pre-pubescent. Crying over every little thing because it's "healthy to express your emotions" is emo whiny bullshit.

I'm sorry, but as long as your brain has neurotransmitters, you have emotions. There's nothing wrong with showing your humanity if something deeply affects you. Alternatively, I'm sorry, but crying because you stubbed your toe, you tore your favourite shirt, or because some person called you a name once is less about releasing emotion and more about grasping for attention.

Your tears only have meaning if you cry over something meaningful. And while, yes, what constitutes something meaningful will likely vary between individuals, there have to be hard lines drawn somewhere. Don't tell me it's healthy to cry because you're distraught that your pen ran out of ink.

 

[feather240]

You know how in France Elles is feminine plural but Ils is masculine and coed plural? The English language really needs to get their view point on that figured out because I'm getting really tired of these problems. Really. Freaking. Tired.

Heh. Had no idea. What with English being my native language, and my preferred secondary options being a tie between Spanish and Japanese.

So, to clarify (I've been up 24 hours, so let's assume I'm currently stupider than usual) you are proposing we introduce better personal pronouns?

(And yes, I am being facetious. Still didn't help me understand precisely WHAT you're annoyed about.)

When people say men they can either mean all males or everyone. Eventually someone makes a quote or saying that uses the word men because "or women" is flow breaking and then they have to explain that it means both, which ruins the moment, or they explain they actually did mean only men and then everyone knows that they're sexist and that puts a rift in the day for everyone, because the only thing worse then a bad person is a self righteous person who likes to use the flaws in bad people people as a way to justify their own spite.

 

[Elle-Jai]

When people say men they can either mean all males or everyone. Eventually someone makes a quote or saying that uses the word men because "or women" is flow breaking and then they have to explain that it means both, which ruins the moment, or they explain they actually did mean only men and then everyone knows that they're sexist and that puts a rift in the day for everyone, because the only thing worse then a bad person is a self righteous person who likes to use the flaws in bad people people as a way to justify their own spite.

Oh. In that case I am more stupid currently than previously suspected.

Personally I deal with it much the same way as I do when referring to Deity: God/dess or wo/man. Yeah it kinda breaks the "flow" but it's the closest we have. :S Although thinking about it, we could do with some new personal pronouns that make more sense/are more descriptive.

 

[feather240]

When people say men they can either mean all males or everyone. Eventually someone makes a quote or saying that uses the word men because "or women" is flow breaking and then they have to explain that it means both, which ruins the moment, or they explain they actually did mean only men and then everyone knows that they're sexist and that puts a rift in the day for everyone, because the only thing worse then a bad person is a self righteous person who likes to use the flaws in bad people people as a way to justify their own spite.

Oh. In that case I am more stupid currently than previously suspected.

Personally I deal with it much the same way as I do when referring to Deity: God/dess or wo/man. Yeah it kinda breaks the "flow" but it's the closest we have. :S Although thinking about it, we could do with some new personal pronouns that make more sense/are more descriptive.

"En"s?

 

[blarghblarghhhhh]

I cry when i physically fight someone. it confuses people more than anything. my friends are used to it. I dont know why it happens. I think its just a strong surge of emotion, but i will never really know.

 

[Kae]

Yes it is OK for adults to cry seems it is a pretty normal emotion I guess I wouldn't know I don't cry although that was because I was told at a very young age that only the weak and girls cried so I decided I should never cry and after that it just became natural not to cry although I still feel pain and sadness and all of those other weird emotions although very rarely.

 

[Elle-Jai]

"En"s?

Could work... Do you think if we start using it on Escapist we can infect everyone?

 

[Elle-Jai]

I want a delete button. So when my stupid internet posts something twice, I can get rid of the second post!!!

 

[SD-Fiend]

I only cry to feel better afterwards

 

[lucky_sharm]

Depends. People that cry to get manipulate others or cry too much about every little thing deserve a nice, scathing punch in the face.

In any other situation? Let them tears flow.

 

[adderseal]

Of course it's ok to cry. People have different emotional thresholds, but absolutely EVERYONE will cry at some point in their adult life. It's natural and makes us feel better.