Poll: "If you cry, you're weak."

[Commissar Sae]

Crying and laughing is a INVOLUNTARY action. So yeah, cry... but man usually turn it to rage in a instant. Check around you. A guy get dump by is girlfriend, he would say something like; "I'm gonna kill her new boyfriend!". I guess that how the whole thing started. Women on the other end can cry and in the same situation would; Eat a full liter of ice cream, Cry for a half hour, throw stuff at wall and find a scapegoat to all her problems.

I actually witnessed it, so don't call me a misogynist just yet.

I dunno, I'm a guy and I cried first time I was dumped. Did kinda feel the vengeance thing after the second time though so its kind of variable.

I rarely find myself crying out of sadness, but there are certain songs that seem to bring tears unbidden to my eyes. Even then though, they are short lasted tears of joy blended with a kind of sorrow.

 

[Romblen]

It depends. Crying from being extrmely stressed or losing a loved one is completely normal.

However, I've seen a 16 year old kid cry because her boyfriend gave her a hug, said hi, then told her he needed to go do something and that he would see her later. She was crying because her boyfriend attended to something besides her. That kind of crying is just plain silly.

 

[Plazmatic]

well it is always OK to cry, its impossible to stop... There is simply no argument for the opposite side, if your going to cry, you can delay it, and some times that works, but usually it doesn't, no matter how small what ever sparked it is. I have a genetic disorder passed on from my mother, that has caused me to uncontrollably cry (and exhibit extreme rage) on small things as well as big things, note, it is not caused by the onset of pain, but by a negative provocative emotional attack on me, and some times due to work put on to me. I doubt I would cry if I was stabbed in the arm but if some one verbally abused me, I would be more likely to do so. My brother also has this same disorder. Theres no point of making fun of something like that, something some one cannot change, its the same as making fun of a person who has cancer, or is disabled in some way.

there is nothing wrong with crying, but there is something wrong with a culture that says its wrong to cry when life hurts so much.

That is goddamn beautiful, did you make that saying up, or is it a quote?

 

[Andantil]

There's sissy tears, normal acceptable tears, and Manly Tears.

What about the crying that you get when just one thing goes wrong because you can't take any more disappointment after 18 months of stress and depression and all you have to look forward to is the kick you get out of mentally tearing yourself apart with grief and regret. I think that one needs a cool name too!

Only sissies cry over depression, Men either get over it or reason it to death with nihilism.

What about women? Are we subjected to that same reasoning?

I'm in no position to decide that, being a man. I guess it's pretty-much the same, but the bar for normal tears would be lowered, so a punch in the gut, for instance, would be very normal for a girl to cry from. Women are a lot more emotional than men; They tend to be irrational even when not depressed, not sure how their minds work through depression.

 

[SmartIdiot]

I just have one thing to say to this thread...

Try saying that to Ichi the Killer

Tempting though it may be, I'll pass. That guy can really fuck up your day...

 

[Moontrust]

Without emotion, we are no better than machines. It does not matter who you are, you may cry without judgement.

 

[arcticphoenix95]

i don't know why crying means your weak........it means your an actual THING rather than an emotionless, pile of slime (republicans)

What you described would be more like a political neutralist. Republicans are republicans because of their particular emotional ties relative to their politics, the same is said for Democrats. Someone on the middle would likely want to stay away from those political affiliations.

let me clarify: republicans do get emotional about their political beliefs, but since they don't (for example) want free health care for millions, endorse oil companies, and oppose gay marriage they don't feel emotion FOR their fellow man or planet they want nothing BUT our demise (me too, but i want to preserve the planet and save enough humans for repopulation).

 

[Stuntcrab]

when my friend stabbed me in the back

What? Your friend stabbed you? What happened?

 

[kalakashi]

To be honest the only time I've cried since I was about 10 years old was due to extreme pain. I do view it as weak I suppose, as it shows that you can't control your emotions.

Are you kidding? Shows that you can't control your emotions? Isn't that the whole point of emotions. Here's some other things that show you can't control your emotions: an involuntary frown, uncontrollable laughter, shouting, gasping, jealous nausea. Emotions come in all shapes and sizes.

Crying's fine, and I think it's fine to do it in front of someone that is willing to comfort you and that you would comfort if it were the inverse. And only if it's because you genuinely feel the need to cry, not purely for attention.

 

[lacktheknack]

If anything that causes great emotional distress occurs, of course it's okay to cry. The question is, what caused the distress?

I don't subscribe to the "Crying under any circumstance is fail" school of thought.

 

[MelziGurl]

Crying is part of normal human emotion. Some people fail to take consideration for the fact that there are some really emotional people in the world and that's part of their personalities. My emotions range from severely depressed to over-the-top rage, but that's simply because I'm short tempered some of the time and it takes every ounce of my strength to hold back on certain individuals. I sometimes even cry when I'm utterly pissed off.

 

[War Penguin]

Crying is natural, of course it's okay. There might be times when it is inappropriate or unnecessary, like not getting what you want over the littlest thing, but other than that, yes it's okay.

 

[Elle-Jai]

I'm in no position to decide that, being a man. I guess it's pretty-much the same, but the bar for normal tears would be lowered, so a punch in the gut, for instance, would be very normal for a girl to cry from. Women are a lot more emotional than men; Women tend to be irrational even when not depressed, not sure how their minds work through depression.

Allow me: It doesn't. It's one of the most annoying things about it.

And physical pain rarely makes me cry. I moan and whinge, yes, because I can and it makes me feel better in about 10 seconds. I'd swear, but not into that atm.

But the guy who wrote Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus points out that a guy who's upset/mad/preoccupied by something will be firmly focused on whatever it is until it's solved or vicariously shoved away.

Women tend towards needing to discuss their problems. Then discuss more problems. If she's really upset she'll get through all her problems, all her female friends/neighbours/acquaintances problems, and possibly the world problems, all of which she's taking personally, until whatever it is that's really bothering her "clicks." All the guy is supposed to do is listen, nod and murmur "that's awful" etc at appropriate pauses, and let her find her own solution. Men call it "irrational". We call it "normal".

((Personally I find the whole "never ask for help/directions" thing stupid. It's not an admission of failure. But then, I'm female. To the male half of the species, it probably makes perfect sense.))

 

[martin's a madman]

i don't know why crying means your weak........it means your an actual THING rather than an emotionless, pile of slime (republicans)

What you described would be more like a political neutralist. Republicans are republicans because of their particular emotional ties relative to their politics, the same is said for Democrats. Someone on the middle would likely want to stay away from those political affiliations.

let me clarify: republicans do get emotional about their political beliefs, but since they don't (for example) want free health care for millions, endorse oil companies, and oppose gay marriage they don't feel emotion FOR their fellow man or planet they want nothing BUT our demise (me too, but i want to preserve the planet and save enough humans for repopulation).

Your political bias is showing : D.

The problem is, you equate your own personal view of compassion as the universal and unalienable view. Which is common.
But it gives you a really one sided position for judgement.

 

[AwesomeExpress]

Even if you lose a limb, you sew it back on and continue working! None of this pansy stuff, especially if you're a pansy! It's time to man up, damn it.

 

[Tehlanna TPX]

I'm in no position to decide that, being a man. I guess it's pretty-much the same, but the bar for normal tears would be lowered, so a punch in the gut, for instance, would be very normal for a girl to cry from. Women are a lot more emotional than men; Women tend to be irrational even when not depressed, not sure how their minds work through depression.

Allow me: It doesn't. It's one of the most annoying things about it.

And physical pain rarely makes me cry. I moan and whinge, yes, because I can and it makes me feel better in about 10 seconds. I'd swear, but not into that atm.

But the guy who wrote Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus points out that a guy who's upset/mad/preoccupied by something will be firmly focused on whatever it is until it's solved or vicariously shoved away.

Women tend towards needing to discuss their problems. Then discuss more problems. If she's really upset she'll get through all her problems, all her female friends/neighbours/acquaintances problems, and possibly the world problems, all of which she's taking personally, until whatever it is that's really bothering her "clicks." All the guy is supposed to do is listen, nod and murmur "that's awful" etc at appropriate pauses, and let her find her own solution. Men call it "irrational". We call it "normal".

((Personally I find the whole "never ask for help/directions" thing stupid. It's not an admission of failure. But then, I'm female. To the male half of the species, it probably makes perfect sense.))

We're wired differently. It's something I've learned both from having multitudes of male friends and, finally, marrying a man. Thankfully he has learned to sit there and let me talk shit out until I find the solution I need, rather than get frustrated and piss and moan about it. It doesn't make either of us better, for whatever reason; individually, and, separately as genders, we all approach our problems in life from different perspectives.

OT: There is nothing at all wrong with crying. It's stigmatized purely on the way our culture(s) and societies deemed it. There is a point for both men and women where crying is simply an escape from rationally working out our problems. That's when it goes from an emotional release to a cry for attention.

 

[ICantBelieveItGoesBoom]

I just got back from a D of E expedition in which my team got lost, had to walk for 11 hours pretty much aimlessly in the woods (while carrying a 2-3 stone backpack), finally reached a campsite, turns out in the was the wrong one so had to walked another 5 miles before we got to the right one. Meanwhile I had huge blisters on the soles of my feet so I had to walk on the edges of them, or my heels, my bag was splitting by the end.

I think I was allowed to cry.

 

[Akalistos]

Crying and laughing is a INVOLUNTARY action. So yeah, cry... but man usually turn it to rage in a instant. Check around you. A guy get dump by is girlfriend, he would say something like; "I'm gonna kill her new boyfriend!". I guess that how the whole thing started. Women on the other end can cry and in the same situation would; Eat a full liter of ice cream, Cry for a half hour, throw stuff at wall and find a scapegoat to all her problems.

I actually witnessed it, so don't call me a misogynist just yet.

I dunno, I'm a guy and I cried first time I was dumped. Did kinda feel the vengeance thing after the second time though so its kind of variable.

I rarely find myself crying out of sadness, but there are certain songs that seem to bring tears unbidden to my eyes. Even then though, they are short lasted tears of joy blended with a kind of sorrow.

Maybe my Cry lever is broken but i cry when everyone around me cry. I don't when i listen to music or movie. But again, when something is wrong, there are better thing to do than cry.
that and...
True story: My grand-father died a fews years back and i went to the Funeral. He was a WW2 veteran, having been send to china to defend them from the Japanese and ended POW for 4 years so his friend in the platoon play the trumpet song on a cassette player. Don't ask me the name, it in any and all war movies. Anyways the song play, everyone start to cry while i wasn't and i remember thinking: "STFU ALL". I was about to give in when the cassette player totally trash the cassette, speed the song to a point you couldn't believe and threw up the tape like a like the first time you discovers you shouldn't have mix drinks. EVERYONE LAUGH AT THAT WHILE THE VETERAN TRIED TO RESTORE THE TAPE. I cry that day, but it because my side were busting!

 

[oppp7]

I love a good cry. Don't really care if it makes me weak(it's a way of coping).