Poll: International Burn a Koran Day

[Necromancer1991]

Let me make something clear, 80% of the people for this idea, have a aunt for a mother and and uncle for a father.

 

[discordance]

It boils down to three things really:

1. Should this guy be allowed to burn a Quran?
Absolutely. It's legal.

2. Is it a cool thing to do?
No. It's stupid and provocative. Don't.

3. Should Muslims freak out and hold protests?
No. Please calm down, guys. You're just giving him what he wants.

The sad part for me is all the attention this pastor's getting. I have a sneaking suspicion that's all he really wanted. If he'd just been ignored from the start, this might not have turned into such a big deal.

 

[Gudrests]

Burning books is always wrong. I just think it symbolises nastiness the same way exempting Video Games from First Amendment Protections is wrong...

But then again, those people are free to be total khunts. But I don't care if you're burning a Koran, the Kama Sutra, Twilight, 1984 or Mein Kampf...book burning rubs me up the wrong way.

Even twlight....you sir have alove for books most men only have for there mothers and a nice steak

 

[johnsom]

A flag and a holy relic is hardly a fair comparison.

 

[rokkolpo]

The bible is the most burned book in history.
so someone is burning some koran's? big deal, its nothing compared to the holy matirial burned in history.

yes, respond in kind, that worked well in history hasn't it?

 

[Raptorace18]

According to the idea of 'an eye for an eye' yes he had every right to burn a quran. But such attitudes just don't work in the real world. Had it gone ahead extremist muslims the world over would no say fair enough and give up. No, they would be more like 'Oh its on now!' Not it those exact words of coarse but you get the idea.

 

[Deshin]

A flag and a holy relic is hardly a fair comparison.

If someone doesn't believe in religion then the relic is worthless to him. Why do people not get that worth and value are relative terms?

 

[mgs16925]

Yet if a Muslim religious leader burned a Bible we wouldn't bat an eye.

I wonder if the Islamic world realizes that all these world leaders saying they should/ will be so offended it would threaten world stability are ACTIVELY INSULTING THEM. These people are "defending" the Muslims of the world by calling them touchy, violent idiots who place no value on human life. If I were a Muslim I would be much madder at those a-hales than some joker I'd never heard of burning a book.

 

[KnowYourOnion]

Kind of off-topic... But building a freaking mosque on groundzero is a freaking horrible idea. and dont come here and tell me they didnt know it would make a scene...
Why not build a monument to Hitler in Auschwitz while we´re at it?

(I do realize that the mosque - hitler isnt the best comparison, since not all muslims are terrorists, but really...)

It wasn't a mosque and wasn't at Ground Zero...................it was about 7 blocks away, what's that like a mile? Not really on top of ground zero is it? Or do you take offence that it's in the same city as Ground Zero?

 

[Tourette]

Tbh, the world has gone so PC mental that everyone can call the western world anything they want but we cannot say anything against the eastern world (mainly the muslim world I mean btw).

 

[AmericanTed]

what a bunch of tools.

 

[Ulquiorra4sama]

Ehh... I see burning the Bible or Koran as burning a comic book or something.

Why? Because there isn't really any good reason why God should be more worshipped than Superman. Would that make burning a Superman-comic blasphemy? Well yeah, but... uhmm... Dammit, i lost my train of thought.

........ Oh yeah! I don't see the Bible or Koran as more than fictional texts since they've never proven to be anything more, so why make such a fuzz?

 

[bassdrum]

however, muslims frequently burn american flags, american effigies (it was almost ironic to see arabs burning effigies of Obama to protest the burning of a symbol of import) and all sorts of things, is it that much of a outrage for a christian to want to do the same?

First, I'll deal with this. Most muslims are pretty annoyed by the people that do this. The average muslim, like the average christian or jew, are just that--average. For the most part, they don't care much about what America is doing unless it directly affects their lives, much like the average American doesn't much care about Russia unless Russia is pointing a nuke at their house. The people you're thinking of are the radicals and extremists, who are the Islamic equivalent of the KKK (violently fighting for their beliefs by arbitrarily killing those who are unlucky enough to not be them). It's only us dumbfuck Americans who can't seem to tell the difference between muslims and terrorists, and it sickens me (just look at the infuriating debate over whether or not an Islamic cultural center should be built in the neighborhood around Ground Zero in New York--nobody would give a damn if a Hooters went up across the street, but a pious center of worship and study a few blocks away is somehow a terrible idea).

Secondly, I'll respond to the post: that priest is a douche. There is no possible defense for such flagrant disrespect and bigotry, even if he's not the one who started it. This is the sort of thing that we all need to get past--some on, humanity can do so much better than this.

Kind of off-topic... But building a freaking mosque on groundzero is a freaking horrible idea. and dont come here and tell me they didnt know it would make a scene...
Why not build a monument to Hitler in Auschwitz while we´re at it?

(I do realize that the mosque - hitler isnt the best comparison, since not all muslims are terrorists, but really...)

Please read the above. You're a bit misinformed and bigoted, and I would like to bring you forth into the world of cultural harmony. To be a little bit less gentle, very few muslims are terrorists. The people in that building would NOT be the people who carried out the 9/11 attacks, and I doubt that they would sympathize much with them either. These muslims are mostly American citizens living in New York who were under attack on that day just as much as any other American citizen in New York.

Now, I'll listen to your side of this--if you can convince me that a cultural center near Ground Zero is a bad idea, I'll listen to you.

 

[Kurokami]

to start with, no flaming. this a thread which screams "FLAME WAR!!", and im just not interested in that.

so lets keep it simple; a probably slightly slow american priest in the deep south declared september 11th "International Burn a Koran Day" for a reason he changed as media attention grew and grew. chances are you heard about it, as it made the front page on nearly every news outlet of import, exploding a minor issue that noone would have ever cared about it into a international incident that subsequently caused deaths in afghanistan, and riots over the muslim world.

since then the event has been cancelled and the priest has recieved death threats and western politicians every where have condemned it. muslim priests have declared "such a action must not even be considered".

however, muslims frequently burn american flags, american effigies (it was almost ironic to see arabs burning effigies of Obama to protest the burning of a symbol of import) and all sorts of things, is it that much of a outrage for a christian to want to do the same?

now its a simple question, is it wrong to ostracise a christian for burning a important symbol of a religion who routinely burn important symbols of his?

even simpler: did this priest deserve such a backlash? he was doing what muslims have been doing to his flag for the past 20 years.

What is a Koran? From a quick search it seems to be the equivalent of a Jew's Torah or Christian's Bible, if that's the case than yes he should be condemned. 'Muslims' do not often burn his religious symbols, nor american flags, Extremists on the other hand do. If you wanna grab those extremists, take 'em out back and shoot him that'd be fine by me, but this guy's disrespecting the religion of a greater group of people just because the ones he wants to insult lie within that group.

The guy's either racist, doesn't quite understand what he's doing, or is being purposefully ignorant because he's angry. Assuming he's not the foremost I don't think he should be condemned.

 

[johnsom]

A flag and a holy relic is hardly a fair comparison.

If someone doesn't believe in religion then the relic is worthless to him. Why do people not get that worth and value are relative terms?

Preaching to the choir man. Were the koran may be worthless to the preacher its obviously not to the muslim community.

 

[Squeaky]

Like you said, people in other countries burn U.S flags all the time, seems fair to light up a few qurans. And it is totally ironic and hilarious that people burn Obama pictures to protest burning things. lol

because there sheep, interesting fact the American boy scouts burn more USA flags than anyone else in the world plus those muslims are buying those flags from somewhere i dont see why Americans dont laugh at them burning thier flag they're now capitalist burning thier own possessions XD ? Id love to see more christain extremest to lvl out the playing field of fools.

 

[randomsix]

It annoys me that because the genius that came up with the day spelt "Qur'an" wrong every second post has now spelt it Koran. It just looks stupid. Anyway, its not like every Muslim burns the American flag its just a few, so to burn the Qur'an in retaliation is just being petty and racist.

Umm sorry to burst your bubble but the Qur'an has been spelled several different ways Koran, Kuran, Coran. And these different spellings exist because of the attempt to romanize a completely different language with different characters. It was an attempt to make a phonetic version of the language so that non speakers could read the romanized text and be able to actually say the words so they would sound as close as possible without having to learn the new alphabet/language.

Leaders in the Arabic world were actually seriously thinking about changing from their script to a romanized alphabet in the '30's but they decided to keep the script so people would be able to read the Koran in its original text.

 

[Necromancer1991]

To the guys who orchestrated this council of the asshats, I have one thing to say "Just because you have the right to be an asshat, doesn't mean you need to be an asshat"

 

[Aisaku]

So, when's the international burn a bible day?