Poll: Japan haters

[Matronadena]

They have no child pornography laws

actually that's a misnomer. Japans anti-child porn law is a mirror off the UN law. like most nations, nobody under 18 can be filmed touching, or in the act of sex, or doing anything that " simulates" a sexual act" or viewed in anyway that is suggestive.

however we all know about the loli hentai, and the jr. idols.. yes 9, 10 year olds in very very very thin bikini's posing...

with the idols, Japans stance is awkward. while they have gone to great lengths to weed out those that cross the line, the industry itself walks in a grey zone that the government is often debating tightening up, but as it is they don't " technically" break any laws ( granted they meet the restrictions set by the U.N child protection acts.) thought over the last few years there has been many strides to toughen those laws.

America is no better. Those wierd child beauty pagents where the 8 year olds are dolled up in full make up and clothed like little women is just creepy. A paedophiles wet dream. Let children be children.

As an adult in the UK Ive not had contact with the whole otaku culture thing. From a no where near thorough search it seems in Japan that the term otaku has negative connotations along the lines of a creepy loner who never leaves the house, like a rapist without the charm. Why would someone sign up to this? Excuse my ignorance, Im trying to learn.

Every culture/nation has cultural norms or interests that will seem odd from the outside. Look at the whole bull fighting thing, or Cheese rolling [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_rolling]. Im sure most Japanese citizens just want to earn a living and be happy with family and/or friends. Just like the rest of us.

Nagh, it's not.. everyplace in the world has those that try to skirt certain things, I find the child beauty pageants creepy myself.. and yeah, I have my own distastes of the jr idols that are anything less than a U18 ( Okay I admit I don't have much of an issue when the girls are 17ish, as long as they don't cross that line) but when I see things like u-15, and such my stomach turns alittle...

and like the US and their " JR.Miss ( insert random state/town etc) the industry states " it's nothing more than a tool to help launch the careers of young women...

I don't really see why a young singer needs to dress in a bikini that " if I put on" would cover nothing, while bouncing on a beach ball waving for 20 min...how will that boost their singing status... granted thats more targeted at otaku I guess ( and I mean the REAL term for otaku, not the westernized term)

then again on the other hand.. I see it in the U.S too.....if your owned by Disney there is a high chance you will hit 18 and come out a full blown skank * cough* Britney, Christina * cough*

 

[dantheman931]

The only thing I don't like about Japan is how bloody racist they are.

Ironic much?

I think what he's saying might have some merit. A Chinese student at my school said that he was treated like crap when he went to Japan.

Maybe it was just a bad experience. I always hear about the Japanese being xenophobic, which makes sense considering they have been isolated from the most of the world.

I'm referring to the irony of decrying Japanese racism by claiming that all Japanese people are racist, which in itself is a racist stance. Kraken didn't say "how bloody racist *some of* them are." You can't claim that all Japanese people hold any one opinion or act in any one particular way because they're as individual as any other culture.

 

[Internet Kraken]

The only thing I don't like about Japan is how bloody racist they are.

Ironic much?

I think what he's saying might have some merit. A Chinese student at my school said that he was treated like crap when he went to Japan.

Maybe it was just a bad experience. I always hear about the Japanese being xenophobic, which makes sense considering they have been isolated from the most of the world.

I'm referring to the irony of decrying Japanese racism by claiming that all Japanese people are racist, which in itself is a racist stance. Kraken didn't say "how bloody racist *some of* them are." You can't claim that all Japanese people hold any one opinion or act in any one particular way because they're as individual as any other culture.

I think it was safe to assume he was referring to the majority. Of course not everyone in Japan is racist. His post most likely took the stance that most people from Japan are racist.

I haven't been to Japan so I wouldn't know. But again, I've only heard negative things from people who have been there.

 

[dantheman931]

As for the whole rape-game thing, it's worth pointing out that real-life sexual violence is a lot less common in Japan than it is in most western countries, both in terms of percentages and sheer numbers. Japan has figured out what most western cultures are just realizing: If you give people with certain urges a non-violent outlet for those urges, they're a hell of a lot less likely to act on them in the real world. Same thing with loli porn. And while we're on the subject, read this: http://money.cnn.com/2002/05/22/news/companies/abercrombie/

Short version: Thongs. For kids. By an American company. Jesus fucking Christ on a crutch, this is just all manner of creepy.

 

[Internet Kraken]

As for the whole rape-game thing, it's worth pointing out that real-life sexual violence is a lot less common in Japan than it is in most western countries, both in terms of percentages and sheer numbers. Japan has figured out what most western cultures are just realizing: If you give people with certain urges a non-violent outlet for those urges, they're a hell of a lot less likely to act on them in the real world. Same thing with loli porn. And while we're on the subject, read this: http://money.cnn.com/2002/05/22/news/companies/abercrombie/

Short version: Thongs. For kids. By an American company. Jesus fucking Christ on a crutch, this is just all manner of creepy.

That's not true. I've heard that argument used before and I've never seen ANY proof to support it.

The reason Japan has less reported cases of sexual violence is because people don't report it as much in Japan, because it's more socially acceptable.

 

[dantheman931]

The only thing I don't like about Japan is how bloody racist they are.

Ironic much?

I think what he's saying might have some merit. A Chinese student at my school said that he was treated like crap when he went to Japan.

Maybe it was just a bad experience. I always hear about the Japanese being xenophobic, which makes sense considering they have been isolated from the most of the world.

I'm referring to the irony of decrying Japanese racism by claiming that all Japanese people are racist, which in itself is a racist stance. Kraken didn't say "how bloody racist *some of* them are." You can't claim that all Japanese people hold any one opinion or act in any one particular way because they're as individual as any other culture.

I think it was safe to assume he was referring to the majority. Of course not everyone in Japan is racist. His post most likely took the stance that most people from Japan are racist.

I haven't been to Japan so I wouldn't know. But again, I've only heard negative things from people who have been there.

I'm not even sure that the majority are racist. Even if they are, it's not like they (or any other country on Earth, for that matter) have had any shortage of reasons to hate America lately. (But that's an entirely different thread.)

And even if they are, there's still the fact that two wrongs don't make a right. Never have, never will.

 

[Chipperz]

I just wanna echo that, having never met a Japanese person, I can't say I hate Japanese people. I DO hate people who have walls of anime and keep shoving their twisted little views of Japanese culture down my throat.

And as for hating anime, the first one I ever watched was Urotsukidoji. I haven't really considered trying again...

 

[Internet Kraken]

The only thing I don't like about Japan is how bloody racist they are.

Ironic much?

I think what he's saying might have some merit. A Chinese student at my school said that he was treated like crap when he went to Japan.

Maybe it was just a bad experience. I always hear about the Japanese being xenophobic, which makes sense considering they have been isolated from the most of the world.

I'm referring to the irony of decrying Japanese racism by claiming that all Japanese people are racist, which in itself is a racist stance. Kraken didn't say "how bloody racist *some of* them are." You can't claim that all Japanese people hold any one opinion or act in any one particular way because they're as individual as any other culture.

I think it was safe to assume he was referring to the majority. Of course not everyone in Japan is racist. His post most likely took the stance that most people from Japan are racist.

I haven't been to Japan so I wouldn't know. But again, I've only heard negative things from people who have been there.

I'm not even sure that the majority are racist. Even if they are, it's not like they (or any other country on Earth, for that matter) have had any shortage of reasons to hate America lately. (But that's an entirely different thread.)

And even if they are, there's still the fact that two wrongs don't make a right. Never have, never will.

Wait, you don't live in Japan?

If you're not Japanese, then why the hell are you defending their culture so much? I hate people who are obsessed with culture that isn't their own.

 

[A random person]

Japan is a pretty awesome country, and not because of anime and games, but weeaboos, like all fanboys and people who obsessively try to be something else and fail, suck. I like their technology, public transportation (bullet trains are awesome), and traditional and several aspects of their popular culture. However, their misogyny disgusts me, though I've seen worse, and I'm not the kind to jump up in favor of rigid social structures. As for opinions, I also dislike the opposite of weeaboos. I hate it when people still cling to WWII (it's over! We won. They're good now.), go on about how xenophobic, racist, and sexist they are (they have a point, but it's exaggerated a lot), and how animu and mango is creepy pathetic kiddy porn.

Also, weeaboos, annoying internet fanboy's they may be, will never be as bad as egotistical wigger myspace tards. Just had to say that. Applies to real life, too.

 

[Bat Vader]

Some people despise cultures they do not understand. Some people are just closed pathologically stubborn and will not accept any other culture than their own.

I like to study different cultures and think how they would fare over in america.

 

[Matronadena]

The only thing I don't like about Japan is how bloody racist they are.

Ironic much?

I think what he's saying might have some merit. A Chinese student at my school said that he was treated like crap when he went to Japan.

Maybe it was just a bad experience. I always hear about the Japanese being xenophobic, which makes sense considering they have been isolated from the most of the world.

I'm referring to the irony of decrying Japanese racism by claiming that all Japanese people are racist, which in itself is a racist stance. Kraken didn't say "how bloody racist *some of* them are." You can't claim that all Japanese people hold any one opinion or act in any one particular way because they're as individual as any other culture.

I think it was safe to assume he was referring to the majority. Of course not everyone in Japan is racist. His post most likely took the stance that most people from Japan are racist.

I haven't been to Japan so I wouldn't know. But again, I've only heard negative things from people who have been there.

heh, like I said above, I lived there for a few years as a kid.. I consider it my second home...

But whats being touched on is a stigma towards foreigners... which actually is really really real. Now I was lucky in the way that on a social level I was fully accepted, was greatly loved by the parents of my friends and even adopted into one of my friends family as one of there own..lol..

BUT...If you were born outside of Japan, and not of Japanese blood, legally you cannot own property...being you are a life long renter.
when it comes to an individual Ive had some fun up and downs to this.

there is a fascination with westerners, I see the same trend in japan as I do in the US with cross cultural fads...the US got Otaku, they got Nerds (western terms)....

When I go to visit my childhood friends every other year or so, Im a attraction. We go shopping, or go to a bathhouse, and eyes are on me ( mind you Im tall even by western standards of a woman) Im busty, tall, blond, and blue eyed... I cant tell you how often I get my chest poked by other women to see if they are real...

on the upside I'M allowed into bath houses with my tattoos...most natives are not as the stigma of it being crime related is still very very heavy

Though I DO speak Japanese, I have hit many places where I talk to a individual, and they freak out and keep telling me they don't know english " in near perfect english, responding to everything I say in perfect english" even though I'm still speaking japanese...like they don't " hear" anything but english coming from my mouth...granted this is less common every time I go out.

though I have seen many apartments that refuse to rent to Koreans, and say so directly on their notice...in a newspaper that talked about that trend ( think it was the Yomiuri Shimbun Osaka) interviewed a land lord who said it was because koreans don't even know how to fold their futon, let alone keep their apartment clean.

so there is alot of stigma..but again it's easier to understand why ( though not having to agree with) once one actually understands the living culture first hand.

 

[A random person]

I just wanna echo that, having never met a Japanese person, I can't say I hate Japanese people. I DO hate people who have walls of anime and keep shoving their twisted little views of Japanese culture down my throat.

And as for hating anime, the first one I ever watched was Urotsukidoji. I haven't really considered trying again...

Dude, it's hentai. Try something that isn't the stuff anime haters think all anime is, like Fullmetal Alchemist or Cowboy Bebop. Or anything by Miyazaki. Or a lot of other things that are good and not porn.

 

[edge47]

I have nothing against japanese people nor their culture, what i do hate however are all the stupid white kids running around Thinking they are japanese people and they are a part of the culture because they dress like retards, use crazy amounts of hairspray and speak like they are some anime character.

Those, often called "Wapanese", really annoy the crap out of me.

And it's that right there, that gives ACTUAL Japanese people a bad rap. If that stopped happening, maybe then people would stop giving it a bad rap, but you have stupid American kids who engulf themselves into the culture, and shove it down everyone's throats. that, and, being completely honest, most of these kids (and adults) are VERY annoying. It sends a stereotype that all japanese are giggly, loud, annoying people who sing anime tunes wherever they are, or wear all anime clothes.

Thats my look at it.

 

[Matronadena]

A lot of Westerners like to think of the Japanese as one great big homogenous, unthinking, Borg-like organism because it reinforces popular stereotypes. Oh those Japanese, they're soooo crazy!!! Man, the Japanese are like soooo xenophobic!!! Racism exists in Japan like it exists in every other country. But I have yet to encounter someone who has lived in Japan and who is fluent in the language who is willing to confirm the "all Japanese are psychopathic racists" stereotype.

As I said above, having lived there and do speak... It's there just in the same way it is in all cultures/nations.... there is a cautious stigma about gaijin.. but an individual themselves has control over that...the distrust/crap talking from japan about korea, is technically no different than the US and Mexico, the UK, and India, etc..

cultural stigma is real too, but then again every nation has their own...

so it's really no different than any other place.

 

[quack35]

I'd love to got to Japan!

Because VIDEO GAMES COME FROM JAPAN!

 

[Captain Wes]

The fact that I can guess whose going to defend blindly by looking at avatars says alot about people, Everyone who has an anime pic has defended blindly basically saying "lalala I can't hear you Japan is great even though I've never been there". So far the only person who has valid view points given that they've experienced the culture is Matronadena. Everyone else (unless they have been their) should kindly shut they face