Poll: Last Video game you played that required skill

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Bags159

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Clockwork Scarecrow. said:
League of Legends.


Oh man, I went into this thread hoping someone would post that League of Legends takes skill, and I have to thank you for making my day. League of Legends is horribly buggy, horribly balanced, and there is very little you can do as a player to set you apart from other players besides knowing what to do, which is usually common snese. The game's "skill shots" would actually be considered skillful if they had accurate hit-boxes and weren't the most spamable abilities in the game.

For reference I play League of Legends daily.


Uh, the last game I played that I'd consider inherently difficult to get good at would have to be either Bloodline Champions or Starcraft II. In Bloodline Champions you need quick reflexes as everything is a "skill shot", including heals. In Starcraft II you need good strategy, reflexes, and game knowledge to succeed.
 

Denamic

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How about all of them?
Every game requires skill.
Even RPGs where you just select commands requires tactical skill.
'Skill' doesn't just encompass twitch reflexes and precision like you need in Super Meat Boy.
Try getting a non-gamer to play any game.
They'll be horrible, because of their lack of skill.
Even if it's one of those retarded wiimote wiggling shit games.
 

kickyourass

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EVERY game requires skill silly, it's just a matter of how much skill, and how forgiving it is, with Assassin's Creed for example, it can be extremely difficult to pull off some of the assassinations without alerting the guards (though for, one or two that is literally impossible). But most of them are forgiving enough that even if you royally fuck up, you can still finish the mission. Most old school platformers on the other hand, don't require tons of skill, if both your eyes and your thumbs work properly, you can probably beat a Mario game or two. However, they're about as unforgiving as they come, as even the smallest of mistakes will have the game practically celebrating how much you suck.

Oh as for my own game, Medieval 2 Total war, Lower difficulties let you get away with stuff like swarming tactics, but if you try that on anything past medium the game practically yells at you for it.
 

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Hmm... I'm playing The Witcher (the first, not the second)

Also, I played Stalker. And yes, it requires skill.

And every game requires skill.
 

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Donkey Kong Country Returns was quite enjoyable as a pretty challenging game. The cursing and yelling at each other in the red/blue buttons level were...quite memorable.(in a good way :D)

As for Call of Duty multiplayer I'd say it is more a matter of experience rather than skill. Play a lot, you'll get to kow the maps, spots where people usually are /camp etc. Then it is more or less reflexes, which is indeed a skill.

I've come across OutLand on Xbox Live Arcade and made it to the final boss, and daresay that the final boss is more a matter of patience and concentration than actual platforming skills. If it were an epic bossfight I wouldn't really mind doing it over and over again after dying because of stupid mistakes I make, but sadly it is not nearly as epic as the other bosses.
 

bam13302

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STALKER was a tricky one that required thought and skill
it also required thought and skill to fix the game when it bugged out -.-
a few of the portal mods were quite good
 

bam13302

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snave said:
Magicka. Oh man, the deaths.
magicka requires skill if you dont have macros, otherwise its a cakewalk as soon as you find a good combo
QERRAS and QERASS are very good, there are a few others that work well too
 

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Very few require skill anymore. In most games even "skilled" players can get randomly pwned by noobs (like CoD, he who sees the enemy first wins 90% of the time). There are not many were skill wins most every time.

Armored Core For Answer is one of those games. You need to both be good at designing a mech and good at flying it.
 

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DrOswald said:
krazykidd said:
Most video games nowadays require little or even no skill ( or so it seems ). So my question today is: What is the last video game you played that required any for of skill to play ?
All video games require a significant skill set to play. If you do not believe me, find anyone who doesn't play games and ask them to play New Super Mario Bros. Wii. They will be unable to beat even the easiest levels at first. They wont even be able to jump on goomba consistently.

The reason you perceive games as not requiring any skill is because you have already mastered the skills required, so the only thing left is learning the specifics of how the game functions, trial and error, and being lucky enough that the cheap stuff miss you. I think it is not too far a stretch to say what you actually mean is "What was the last game that challenged your skill and required you to further develop your skill?" Is that fair?

In anycase, my answer to either question would be League of Legends. DOTA style game for those who are unfamiliar. Really fun, free to play. I would recommend it.
I agree that the skills you think games are "lacking" are things that you have already acquired through your gaming experience. Perfect example (and I challenge you to do this): ask a friend who does not play video games to play Portal (or any 1st person "shooter" for that matter, I just prefer Portal in this experiment because it has a friendly, no-lose, gameplay). You will find that the MOST challenging part of the game for the first few hours will be rudimentary movement. The ability to move where you are looking and to navigate the game world using two analog sticks in 1st person requires a learned skill. I have done this many times with my friends and it is always the same result.

If you want to try this yourself (as an experienced gamer): Play Mirror's Edge. The dynamical movement system requires you to "flow" rather than move. In the first few levels you will be slow and your movements will be more clunky, but as time goes on you will gain the "skill" the game requires.

To answer the OP: Yes, games still take skill. An 8 year old cannot simply pick up a controller and start dominating. They have to learn the basics first then get better. Once they master those skills (such as 1st person movement, a nearly universal control scheme in all shooters) then they will complain that all new games take no skill.

As for the people whining in this post about "broken" games needing skill, while I disagree that it is the same type of skill (as in Ninja Gaiden or bullet hell game skills), I do agree that it does take some sort of skills. Like how to figure out how to cheat the game to win it (I'm looking at you Prototype).
 

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TestECull said:
New Vegas requires an awful lot of technical skill to get it to run.
Its a shame, really. Under all the bugs is a quirky, extremely good game.

Problem is finding it under all the clutter, launch errors, etc.

Last skill based game? League of Legends. Shit is hard when it pits your person skill + your teams skill against the other teams skill...

... and if they choose OP champions like Katarina or Vayne...
 

LordLundar

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Number 1, Every game outside of chance games require skill, whether it's dexterity, critical thinking, logistics, etc. Name a non-chance game, I can list at least one skill required.

Number 2, the Poll has no bearing on the thread and is completely useless, just like most polls here. The toy's been out for a while and soundly abused. Time to walk away from it.
 

icame

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I am currently playing Valkyria Chronicles for the first time (One of the best games ever!) and it certainly requires quite a lot of skill in terms of strategical thinking.