Poll: Miscarriage: A capital offense?

[slightly evil]

-.- it's a lump of fucking cells, unless it can think, it doesn't count as a human

 

[icame]

Wait...what? If this is true that is completely retarded. But as others have said, it probably is a means to punish mothers who purposefully or unintentionally have a miscarriage by means of say, doing heroin.

That I could see, but the punishment couldn't be death. Maybe some jail time but not death...

 

[Madara XIII]

It would most likely be used to punish mothers who miscarry through drug or alcohol abuse.

Now THAT sounds like a crime.

^ This.

If you're pregnant then you should be held responsible for any damage you do to the unborn child by consuming alcohol or other harmful drugs. Or even trying to force one for that matter.

 

[Madara XIII]

-.- it's a lump of fucking cells, unless it can think, it doesn't count as a human

Well here I thought I was the evil ass. It's the principle of the matter. I think it means that if a woman is intentionally miscarriaging her child then it's a punishable offense or unintentionally by consuming harmful substances.

Either way it's still a potential life and removing it in such a barbaric fashion truly shows their stupidity.

Not saying that abortion isn't an option but honestly nothing good can come from forcing a miscarriage.

Now the penalty for such a crime, I really don't think it should be death. That's a tad extreme

 

[pubbing]

I will say this, I am a christian and I do believe in the bible as God's word and even I think this is the stupidest thing that I have ever heard.

 

[Haydyn]

Forcing a miscarriage should be illegal, but not miscarriages in general. That's silly.

And yes, Georgia is nothing but a redneck hick state that us classy people in Washington look down on. We gave the world Grunge, they gave us gingivitis.

Sorry bout your home state, AJ Styles.

You must not have heard AJ's promos in the indies, from what I've seen he fits right in with the majority of the state.

On topic. Miscarriages that are your own damned fault and could have been avoided are wrong and you should be punished for being so stupid as to cause it (edit: just to be clearer I mean ones the mothers bring on themselves with drugs, etc), but making them ALL illegal? Really? REALLY? /miz

Both my mother and grandmother had miscarriages in there last pregnancies, and having them both go on trial for something they didn't cause or want to happen would have devastated our family if it weren't for the prospect of the death penalty.

Has seen AJ Styles' indy promos, referenced The Miz, *checks name* Yay! It's TheTygerfire! (Haven't seen too much of AJ's indy promos, but he does have the accent.)

OT: Causing a miscarriage in a barbaric way such as alcohol abuse or falling down stairs should be illegal. However most, if not almost all miscarriages are accidents, and very tramatic. Any kind of penalty seems irrational, let alone being sentenced to death.

What gets me about this is that about 10% of this bill makes sense, the other 90% being insane. I'm wondering as to what the intentions of this man who conceived this are. Does he want to stop barbaric miscarriges, or is he just against anything that prevents the fetus from being born? People like this need to realize that they hurt their cause. Reminds me of my beliefs that Sarah Palin is actually a liberal impersonating a crazy person on the Republican side.

 

[SirDoom]

Just another outspoken politician trying to push through some random bill that will likely never even be voted on anyway. This sort of thing happens all the time. Nothing to see here.

Although the wording of this legislation is just horrible. particularly this part...

... so long as there is no human involvement whatsoever in the causation of such event.

Technically, under this wording, there could be some insane restrictions placed on pregnant women. In addition to the no smoking/drinking/drugs thing, anything else that could be seen as harmful to the baby could also be prohibited. Things like coffee, herbal tea, potato chips, excessive exercising, going to places where you could likely be exposed to bacteria and diseases, getting in a car (which could be in a crash), etc...

In extreme cases, you would basically be stripping away all rights of the woman involved under threat of being charged with murder of her child should something happen.

 

[pubbing]

Well shit, my mistake. How could I have possibly been so stupid as to make the typo of putting in an "s". They ought to kill me, too! /sarcasm.

None of that changes in the slightest the fact of you coming in and claiming that everyone other than you is too stupid to grasp the subtle concepts of eating with a fork. This thread is for honest opinions of a current issue, not for coming in here and telling everyone else they're stupid, they're liars and whatever else you keep saying. If you don't feel like that, then please leave, we can get along fine without your shining influence.

I don't appreciate people with no common sense finding a story and posting it online without vetting it and then getting pissy when someone tries to explain it. You mis-stated what you were told and didn't even think it through before posting it, a moment's critical thought would have given you your answers but you got too caught up in feeling outraged to really think this through. I'm not being an ass, I'm trying to help you understand your mistake.

It's obvious you posted this looking for a 'lolrepublican' response but it would have helped if you'd have presented this as what it is. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about and don't think that being the OP and presenting a case as morally right makes you immune to being called out.

It's one person who's well known for being outspoken on this subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Franklin

He has absolutely no political clout and a bill promoted by him is worse than a joke. It's not going to happen but your video doesn't mention that even in the Republican party he's seen as unpalateably opinionated. The whole implication of your post and the video was that this was a legally endorsed attack upon women's rights by the state of Georgia rather than a known firebrand's ranting.

At what point did I say anything to the contrary?
I said three things.
1. This bill is being proposed
2. The guy's from Georgia
3. What the bill is

I posted the link and asked for people's opinions. I tried to have a bit of fun with the poll. I gave no personal opinion (well, again, I may have been slightly overzealous with the poll).

I didn't say anything about the person proposing it, true, but it has no bearing on my simple topic of the fact that this exists, and that someone would legitimately bring it up.

You, however, feel the need to do nothing here but come in here, directly call me a liar and try to raise a shitstorm. I have no idea why you'd do any of this except to troll, and you don't seem the type. I then asked you to kindly leave if you had nothing but insults and attacks to contribute, but you keep coming back.

Again, if you have nothing valid (i.e. OTHER than personal attacks) to contribute, Please leave.

I read the OP's post and the three things that he did are exactly what he did. I think the guy giving you shit should be directing his criticisms a MSNBC because they are the ones trying to nail this insane bill on all of republicans rather than the one crazy fucker who proposed it.

 

[TheTygerfire]

Has seen AJ Styles' indy promos, referenced The Miz, *checks name* Yay! It's TheTygerfire!

Completely off topic, but *SQUEE* A fan ^.^

 

[John the Gamer]

They could just as well put the blame on the babies for committing suicide or something. Some people just go too far. Like the Libyan president, for instance.

 

[Caligulove]

That's fucking insane.
The law basically has it so a woman has to explicitly prove her miscarriage was the result of natural causes or God's work (fucking bible belt) or something. What the hell happened to being innocent until proven guilty. This law basically overturn one of the basic tenents of our legal system.

 

[Uszi]

Georgia... Already kind-of a backwards state. I mean, I can't buy booze on Sunday? How in the hell?

... A lot of topics dealing with religion and or politics in off-topic today!

 

[TheGuiggleMonster]

They can't pass a law like this simply due to the number of women who will vote against it. There is probably no need to worry.

 

[InnerRebellion]

First of all its Georgia, buncha hicks. I have been there, they ban alcohol sales on sunday cause its "the lords day". So they are all stupid. Secondly you can't hold a woman responsible cause typically a miscarriage is not planned. Fourth, they are a buncha republican/christians trying to get around the fact that abortion is legal. And finally if the woman did want to "force" a miscarriage, all she would have to do is get an abortion, which is still legal =P

Where's your third...? 1, 2, 4? Oh, and by the way. I'm a republican, but I'm not a narrow minded idiot.

OT: I err... what? How is that even sensible?

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

Sociopaths responsible for killing several people get put in jail. Mothers who have miscarriages (which may not be their fault) are killed. Makes sense to me.

Irresponibilty leading to the death of a child? Sure, that should be punished. But even the death penalty seems to take it too far.

 

[jpoon]

Geez, what a fucking idiot "lawmaker", this will go nowhere...ever.

 

[Random berk]

What madness is this? Threatening to kill a woman if she doesn't manage to complete her pregnancy with no issues? I'm amazed, I didn't know there was an entire troll state.

 

[Someone Depressing]

Miscarridge is a natural thing.

Infact a fetus isn't even a fucking living thing.

It's a collection of misused genes, and cell's.
How is killing something that's not even alive be a crime?
That's like being shot for eating snow, cause it's not going to come round next year.

EDIT : A fucking death-penalization. How much crack did you smoke? Oh, and miscarridgment can easily scar someone with post stress traumatization, so why are you pushing them like this?
Infact, it can be traumatizing for someone straight and completley sane.
Geezus. World, why do you tolerate us as a species?