Poll: Peter Molyneux, Idiot or Liar?

[Woodsey]

Both!

I can't believe Microsoft chose him to unveil Natal (or the game that comes with it or whatever it was) as no one believes a word he says! (and if they do they need their heads checked out).

To be fair, he may not be an idiot, but he's close to one with the amount of un-kept promises - and there's so many of those I'd consider him a liar.

 

[Dancingman]

To the OP: You should change your poll to be less slanted in favor of your views. I don't really care that you don't like Peter Molyneux, I just think your poll could be done a bit more maturely.

So what if Molyneux churns out a few crappy games and overpromotes them so that some people think they'll reach gaming nirvana by just sitting down and starting at the intro screen? It's damn hard work to make a game and if I had to make one then I would promote it as much as I could, I don't want my damn game to bomb in the markets only after having worked forever on it.

 

[quack35]

He just gets a little overexcited about his new games, is all.

 

[Valentine82]

Yup, so many still give PM a free pass. "Oh he just has high hopes" is a piss poor excuse. At some point he still chooses to be dishonest with what he does know, and if he doesn't know what's going to be in his own games when he announces their content then he's an idiot.

 

[Stevanchez]

I don't think he's either, necessarily. I think he's over ambitious, over confident, and way to eager to make huge promises.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I wouldn't call him a lier or dishonest or an idiot. I would say he's an over enthusiastic man who tends to promise more than he can deliver. That's not the same as being dishonest or lieing, it's more like setting unrealistic expectations and boasting about them. On the other hand, I would expect that he would learn not to do this after not being able to deliver on his promises a few times, but it seems he keeps doing it; so maybe I would call him an idiot.

 

[Charli]

Both Classifications are wrong.

I'm not gonna go too much into it because I'm sure 3 pages have justified otherwise. He's just a bit over enthusiastic about the ideas of the projects he's working on, setting his own imagination no limits, which I think is sad that he's critisized for but also that he SHOULD NOT be the PR for his own games.

Seriously someone take that job off of him Lionhead.

People look way too much into this...

 

[Valentine82]

He's just a bit over enthusiastic

I've already addressed this excuse. You can give him a free pass if you want.

 

[Kurokami]

I hate fable but neither. The least you could do is make a legit pole to give yourself a bit more credibility.

 

[Knight Templar]

At any rate, that link wasn't my argument, it was there because you asked for a list. My argument is; at the time he says these things they are either true, or he says them in such a way that they seem larger than they are, both of which are normal for anybody to do. Who the hell would use negitive words to discribe their work?

So when Peter Molyneux realized that Fable would not have free roaming akin to Morrowind and chose to keep that little tid bit to himself, who's fault was that?

Whose fault should it be? The media is the one asking him these questions most of the time, they don't ask "what's been cut that you've told us about" do they?
If you judge how a game will be based on what the lead developer says when the game isn't even playable you've got to expect some changes to occure inbetween then and relase, its like following hype and being ticked off when the game isn't what you wanted.

The man just talks more than other developers, as such more of what he says is removed from the final game but much of what he says is there, is. He has the same right:wrong ratio of anybody else it's just he talks more, of course him being right is much less important than him being wrong.

Also I never got into Morrowind, so I have no idea what you mean by "free running", sorry.

 

[Charli]

He's just a bit over enthusiastic

I've already addressed this excuse. You can give him a free pass if you want.

You really didn't elaborate /where/ you addressed this issue to me personally so it just seems a bit out of the blue.

So as much as I care about how much of an arse Peter makes of himself to the gaming press do I really care about what the next person thinks of my opinion on the subject. He can have a free pass and an ice cream as far as I'm concerned as long as he's not ritualistically sacrificing gamers to an occult god to ensure the success of a video game.
At least he gives us bored muppets something to talk about.

 

[BolognaBaloney]

Eh, I think your being a bit harsh, I think the man simply loves what he does a bit too much, and starts gushing about his projects, forgetting to put his money where his mouth is. I don't think he is intentionally trying to annoy people, I think he's just to excited about his games; and he runs his mouth.

 

[Valentine82]

At any rate, that link wasn't my argument, it was there because you asked for a list. My argument is; at the time he says these things they are either true, or he says them in such a way that they seem larger than they are, both of which are normal for anybody to do. Who the hell would use negitive words to discribe their work?

So when Peter Molyneux realized that Fable would not have free roaming akin to Morrowind and chose to keep that little tid bit to himself, who's fault was that?

Whose fault should it be?

Well let's see. PM said X. PM learns that X is untrue. PM decides to keep that fact to himself, even though he sees everyone talking about X. Who's fault should that be? PM's the one who decided to say X, he's the one who then decided to keep the truth to himself when he saw that X was selling product.

The media is the one asking him these questions most of the time, they don't ask "what's been cut that you've told us about" do they?

Well when the media (gamespot, for instance) isn't offering him free hand jobs, maybe they should ask him whether or not his games are going to meet the hype that PM himself started. I blame the media for giving him a free pass and brown nosing him for future interviews, but PM is the one who decides to be dishonest. Both are clearly at fault, but PM still chose to keep the truth to himself and let everyone believe a lie, knowing that people would buy copies based on that lie. PM is a Bait and Switch master.

 

[DrDeath3191]

Please, for the love of God, add a neither option. The vast majority of people don't agree with any of the available options. Just because you're bitter and call us naive for not agreeing with you does not mean we shall change our opinion.

 

[oppp7]

He's more of a liar. His games never reach his expectations and he doesn't finish half of them. Look at Black and White 2. No sandbox mode or anything. And Fable the Lost Chapters had serious issues. The mayor job didn't offer any changes to the gameplay, for example.

 

[Mekado]

...had serious issues. The mayor job didn't offer any changes to the gameplay, for example.

And that's a serious issue ?

Take a deep breath

 

[TimeLord]

Am I the only person here who isn't bothered by Molyneux at all?

I don't think I have ever bought a game he has been involved in.

I'm just going by Yahtzee's reviews of his games

 

[Valentine82]

Please, for the love of God, add a neither option. The vast majority of people don't agree with any of the available options. Just because you're bitter and call us naive for not agreeing with you does not mean we shall change our opinion.

Does he know what's going on with his titles or not?

If he doesn't, he's an idiot, or at the very least unaware.

If he does, he's a liar, or at the very least chooses to be dishonest with us.

It doesn't matter whether he originally intended for something to be in his game or not. If he knows that something he previously said is now false, and he sees that people are still planning on buying his products based on that falsehood, then he is dishonest in keeping the truth from us.

Anyway I added /Unaware after Idiot, so if you feel that he's just unaware that the things he says are untrue, pick option one

 

[mattttherman3]

I think the term Ass Hole fits Peter better. I have been disapointed by Fable 2, and thus I shall rent Fable 3.