Poll: So FF7...?

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PhiMed

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Daedalus1942 said:
PhiMed said:
Daedalus1942 said:
PhiMed said:
I don't really have a favorite. I've enjoyed almost all of them immensely.

I have a least favorite.
VIII.

Incomprehensible story, annoying characters, ridiculous gameplay design, and characters that by the end of the game have no difference between them because their performance is determined entirely by what Guardian Force and spells you have "junctioned" (whatever the hell that is) to your attributes.

Worst Final Fantasy, worst rpg, worst game.
I'm disregarding your opinion, because if you have no idea what junctioning is, you clearly haven't played the game. Please leave the thread in a calm and orderly fashion.
I'm disregarding your statement, because you're a smartass and a troll.

I know how the junction system works, but could you please describe for me HOW a guardian force allows you to junction spells (and a certain quantity of them... because magic spells apparently are quantifiable... but they're not inventory... so I guess they don't take up space... and each character has their own supply... and each character can hold as many types of spells as they want... but each character can only hold 100 of each spell... so apparently they do sort of take up space, or you have a battery for each spell that you charge... Ahhh!!! My head hurts! Too poorly designed for human consumption!) to your attributes?

I know THAT they do, and I learned how to work the system well enough to complete the game fairly easily, but the concept just doesn't make sense. At least FFVII had the decency to say, "Here's materia. They're magic rocks. Equip them, and the magic rocks do the trick. They are physical items you can buy and sell. Hooray magic rocks."

Other concepts that don't make sense: drawing magic, turning playing cards into items, turning a laundry list of random items into weapon upgrades, weapons and armor not being available for sale in an RPG, gun blades, and a military organization basing their members' ranks entirely on a written exam.

And again, you're a smartass troll.
No, you're a complete imbecile who bitched about a game, for it's minor flaws.
It's still better than alot of the crap that game companies charge top dollar for nowadays.
By your logic, you might as well ***** about Final Fantasy IX too. "Oh look, I put on this hat and oh and what's this? It's teaching me the Ribbon and Auto-life abilities? :eek: wow! how is that even possible? This doesn't make sense... :eek: I think I hate this game, wait... Yes, yes I do!
Your assessment was that the flaws were minor.
That's a completely subjective statement.
For the record, I'm capable of ignoring a few minor flaws (a la your completely random FFIX straw man argument), but I found the flaws in VIII too numerous to ignore. Also, a completely incomprehensible story (even by FF standards) is not a minor flaw. It's a fatal one.

An example of my problems with the story: "There's a mysterious force that has nullified all the long distance communications on the planet for decades, so an elite military program decides to go to the BIGGEST RADIO TOWER IN THE WORLD to see if they can turn it on, because NOBODY EVER TRIED TO DO THAT BEFORE." If that's not masterful storytelling, I don't know what is.

Your assessment was that it's "better than alot (sic) of the crap game companies charge top dollar for nowadays".
That's also completely subjective, but I would agree to a point.
The difference is that most of the games to which you're referring won't be hailed by a tiny group of people ten years from now as the greatest of all time.
That type of veneration is what has transformed my mere irritation to absolute hatred.

As for me being an imbecile, I'll agree that I'm an imbecile bitching about a game if you'll agree that you're a fanboy turd nugget who got his nuts all up in a bunch because somebody had the audacity to question the quality of a ten year-old collection of ones and zeroes.
 

dark-amon

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It's not easy to say. The player is probably easely swayed by wich FF-title he/she played first. I like FF7 best, but my friend who played FF8 first prefeers that.
I won't say that FF7 is the best game in the franchise because I agree with many that it is overrated, but as I just said the game is my favourite so that means that just because it's overated to a certain level, dosen't mean that the whole game is it.
 

Broady Brio

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Never played a FF game properly, I've only played X and didn't like it. I doubt I will play one ever again.
 

Phoenix Arrow

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The only game in the Final Fantasy series I have played a lot is FFXI and I haven't completed the story on that. I blame Americans for that though. Doing runs when I'm not around.
 

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I have only played 7 8 and 9, 7 has a slight edge over 9 for me but that might just be the nostalgia kicking in as i played 9 more recently.

On a side note, does anyone else feel they always seem to start really strong storywise and then lose steam about 3/4 of the way through. I say this because I have never finished one.
 

A Weary Exile

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Not THAT great but still very good. In my opinion 9 and 10 are much better, I thought X-2 and 12 sucked hard.
 

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Good game, which shot FF onto the PS1 With a new graphics engine, and a clever storyline. But, it's not the best out there, not by a longshot. Which is Why I'm glad they aren't making a remake becuase if they did, all the rosetinted views would be shattered.
 

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PhiMed said:
Daedalus1942 said:
PhiMed said:
Daedalus1942 said:
PhiMed said:
I don't really have a favorite. I've enjoyed almost all of them immensely.

I have a least favorite.
VIII.

Incomprehensible story, annoying characters, ridiculous gameplay design, and characters that by the end of the game have no difference between them because their performance is determined entirely by what Guardian Force and spells you have "junctioned" (whatever the hell that is) to your attributes.

Worst Final Fantasy, worst rpg, worst game.
I'm disregarding your opinion, because if you have no idea what junctioning is, you clearly haven't played the game. Please leave the thread in a calm and orderly fashion.
I'm disregarding your statement, because you're a smartass and a troll.

I know how the junction system works, but could you please describe for me HOW a guardian force allows you to junction spells (and a certain quantity of them... because magic spells apparently are quantifiable... but they're not inventory... so I guess they don't take up space... and each character has their own supply... and each character can hold as many types of spells as they want... but each character can only hold 100 of each spell... so apparently they do sort of take up space, or you have a battery for each spell that you charge... Ahhh!!! My head hurts! Too poorly designed for human consumption!) to your attributes?

I know THAT they do, and I learned how to work the system well enough to complete the game fairly easily, but the concept just doesn't make sense. At least FFVII had the decency to say, "Here's materia. They're magic rocks. Equip them, and the magic rocks do the trick. They are physical items you can buy and sell. Hooray magic rocks."

Other concepts that don't make sense: drawing magic, turning playing cards into items, turning a laundry list of random items into weapon upgrades, weapons and armor not being available for sale in an RPG, gun blades, and a military organization basing their members' ranks entirely on a written exam.

And again, you're a smartass troll.
No, you're a complete imbecile who bitched about a game, for it's minor flaws.
It's still better than alot of the crap that game companies charge top dollar for nowadays.
By your logic, you might as well ***** about Final Fantasy IX too. "Oh look, I put on this hat and oh and what's this? It's teaching me the Ribbon and Auto-life abilities? :eek: wow! how is that even possible? This doesn't make sense... :eek: I think I hate this game, wait... Yes, yes I do!
Your assessment was that the flaws were minor.
That's a completely subjective statement.
For the record, I'm capable of ignoring a few minor flaws (a la your completely random FFIX straw man argument), but I found the flaws in VIII too numerous to ignore. Also, a completely incomprehensible story (even by FF standards) is not a minor flaw. It's a fatal one.

An example of my problems with the story: "There's a mysterious force that has nullified all the long distance communications on the planet for decades, so an elite military program decides to go to the BIGGEST RADIO TOWER IN THE WORLD to see if they can turn it on, because NOBODY EVER TRIED TO DO THAT BEFORE." If that's not masterful storytelling, I don't know what is.

Your assessment was that it's "better than alot (sic) of the crap game companies charge top dollar for nowadays".
That's also completely subjective, but I would agree to a point.
The difference is that most of the games to which you're referring won't be hailed by a tiny group of people ten years from now as the greatest of all time.
That type of veneration is what has transformed my mere irritation to absolute hatred.

As for me being an imbecile, I'll agree that I'm an imbecile bitching about a game if you'll agree that you're a fanboy turd nugget who got his nuts all up in a bunch because somebody had the audacity to question the quality of a ten year-old collection of ones and zeroes.
Are you kidding? Eight was horrible! The magic system was RETARDED you had to draw those stupid tokens or whatever the hell they were just to use spells, the summons were WAAAYY overpowered. All the characters were unlikable they were either emotionless stoics with the personality of plywood (Squall and Seifer) or overly hyper retards who were completley useless in battle (Selphie and Zell) Irving was the only one I liked even a little and that was only because he wore a cool hat! I had to stop about halfway through because that stupid magic system was driving me insane. And before anyone says anything I know how to use the junctioning, it's just incredibly stupid.
 

phoenix352

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wheres the i dont care option....

ive personally never played a final fantasy game....
ive played both kingdom hearts games (1,2) and saw the advent children movie thing which gave me the general idea of the characters , played ff 4 once for about 10 minutes at some place ...

but from what ive known around the net ff7 seems to be the most popular .....
but ff7 has cloud in it so iam gona say ff7 o.0?
 

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sky14kemea said:
i liked FF7, but i dont think its the best in the series, ive always preferred FF9 :p
So have I. Why do you think my avatars have mainly been from FF9(my most current one as Black Waltz number 3)? For some reason, I could connect with the characters better from FF9.
 

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hmm... I feel posting in this thread now is rather futile, and I kinda doubt anyone will read my post... so Im not going to bother with an essay like usual, lol.

My favorite is FF9, but its generally agreed upon that Final Fantasy 6 was the best game of the series.

'Nuff Said.
 

Nmil-ek

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Why in the name of hell did you feel this was worth bumping? We now have two shitty opinion threads on page one awsome halo, ff7 want to make another usless thread about Falout 3 next? single opinions are not thread worthy material its not original and its fucking boring.
 

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Zukonub said:
XII is the best.
To elaborate: XII sacrificed the depth of story of the earlier games to envelop the player in an enormous and expansive world, as well as the expansion of gameplay. The dungeons in the game are all superb (aside from the Stillshrine of Miriam, but that's entirely irrelevant), and the world and cultures that the player meets are all brilliantly detailed. I enjoyed the freedom of the license board (although it was shit compared to the sphere grid), but the best part of the gameplay is undoubtedly the gambits. The FREEDOM to customize AI any way you wish was a brilliant idea, and actually allows for your party to be useful when you don't control them.
But the story is, despite a few select moments, the weakest of the series since V. While the characters are all interesting, few of their facets are actually explored, which is unfortunate, as this could have easily been my favorite cast to date. The whole "battle" between man and the Occuria should have been the centerpiece as opposed to exploring the politcal machinations of the world for the first half and then making the entire second half detail the gray nature of the game's morality.
That being said, the world and gameplay are just enough to accelerate the game beyond VI, for me.