Poll: So I found this "feminist" site

[Colour Scientist]

Hey, 50 Shades of Grey looks like Ulysses next to this.

I love My Immortal!
Did you know the main character has satanits?
I also adore her choice of clothing.

 

[Rainboq]

Hey, 50 Shades of Grey looks like Ulysses next to this.

I love My Immortal!
Did you know the main character has satanits?
I also adore her choice of clothing.

Fair enough, personally, I love the dramatic reading posted above (its incredibly well done), and the fanfic itself is good for a laugh, despite the spelling.

 

[Colour Scientist]

Fair enough, personally, I love the dramatic reading posted above (its incredibly well done), and the fanfic itself is good for a laugh, despite the spelling.

I've always wanted to know if it's a piss-take or not. I assume it is. It's too funny to be real.

 

[Rainboq]

Fair enough, personally, I love the dramatic reading posted above (its incredibly well done), and the fanfic itself is good for a laugh, despite the spelling.

I've always wanted to know if it's a piss-take or not. I assume it is. It's too funny to be real.

Nope, its a serious fanfic.

 

[Colour Scientist]

I've always wanted to know if it's a piss-take or not. I assume it is. It's too funny to be real.

Nope, its a serious fanfic.[/quote]

It can't be though, no one can be THAT BAD at writing. If it is real, I want to meet that girl, hug her and tell her that everything will be okay.
I'm still not convinced though.
I mean, come on. DUMBLYDORE!

 

[Rainboq]

It can't be though, no one can be THAT BAD at writing. If it is real, I want to meet that girl, hug her and tell her that everything will be okay.
I'm still not convinced though.
I mean, come on. DUMBLYDORE!

Yes, yes people can have writing that bad, especially if they don't proofread it. And if it is a joke, then its just playing it straight and calling it ironic.

 

[triggrhappy94]

Finally an apropriate thread to use this on!
It's a pain to get this to embed
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-12-13/
Go there!

In addition,

I love you Ryan Gosling

 

[DevilWithaHalo]

I was going to hop on and talk about people potentially using the no-true-scotsman fallacy when it comes to the likes of the rad-fem-hub calling itself feminists, but I see I've been beaten to the punch by people using the no-true-scotsman fallacy in saying that rad-fem-hub aren't real feminists. Damn forums move fast don't they?

 

[Skullpanda]

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All I want to say is thank you to both of you for making this thread far more entertaining than I ever expected.

As for something on topic? I seriously can't tell if this is a Straw feminist site, or these people actually believe what they're writing. But I can't ask them, seeing as I'm a guy, and they'll probably run away screaming if I come within 100 yards of them.

 

[WolfThomas]

theres nothing wrong with BDSM

the "BDSM" in 50 shades however is REALLY wrong

its clear that that Anastasia the dumbass doesnt want that kind of sub/dom relationship...she just really really likes Christian the twat and is willing to do it because...GAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

To be fair, nearly all bdsm fiction does not portray real "safe, sane, consensual" bdsm. A lot pornography and erotic literature shows fantasies usually of unconsensual activities (even though in reality they are acted out by consenting actors or written by a author in the know).

But the novel is indeed trash.

The difference is, almost all of the time, the people involved pretend to be uncomfortable and to be non-consenting.

There's a difference between BDSM and rape.

Thank you, I understand the difference.

I'll try to explain my working better. Take your standard kink.com (one of the most ethical and professional bdsm related porn studios), they have a nice prologue and epilogue where the actress/actor talks about what they want to do and then what they enjoyed. But then the middle bit taken without context could be mistaken for rape, it isn't of course but viewed alone it could be, but what is it is a fictional scenario or a roleplay as you indeed mentioned lower.

Now what I am saying is that the writing in fifty shades of gray, is as much fiction as that middle part. We don't get to see the actors, because of course they don't exist (the closest I guess would be an interview with the author). But it's all a fictional scenario, no one gets harmed and whoever enjoys it gets their jollies off.

From what I hear is it's a terrible bit of prose (haven't read it). But I find "they don't really understand it" complaints a little insufferable. Like "ooh I can't stand my kink is becoming mainstream"

 

[WolfThomas]

Basically, the woman in the book doesn't want or enjoy a BDSM relationship, but enters into it as she is madly in love with a man. He controls her and forces her to do things that upset her a great deal. That's why it's not real BDSM, as she doesn't genuinely want to enter into the relationship, ever.

I see your point about context and I am totally Googling that site as we speak lol.

Yup and that's the author's (and apparently a whole lot of soccer mom's) fantasy. (Shruggs) it doesn't do anything for me, but more power to them. Agreed if it was happening in real life it would be terrible. Just like if someone kidnapped someone for sex. Which has happened thousands of times in porn.

They have a site has free samples for their whole range of videos, but you didn't hear it from me.

 

[WolfThomas]

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I have no problem with the book. I think it's shit and a terribly written read, but I don't think it's "wrong" or anything. I was just pointing out that the relationship in the novel wasn't actually "real" BDSM, in the sense of the participants wanting the shame, suffering, humiliation, etc.

Your secret is safe with me

I think we're pretty much in agreement. That if the relationship was going on in real life it would be pretty abusive. But being fiction it's just a trashy fantasy.

I never know how to end a discussion that's amicable on a forum. Usually when people argue it just stops when someone gives up or hides. So thank you for the dicussion. I'm gonna go now.