Poll: The Hunting thread!

[DoctorNick]

Ah yes, here we are back to the automatic assumption that hunting is only done for trophies.

No, if I'm going to bag a whitetail it's because I want it's tasty, tasty deer flesh. NOT because I want a fucking head to put on the wall.

So you've only ever killed an animal to consume it? Or have you also killed for the 'fun' of it?

Fair enough if it's only to eat, but as far as I'm concerned anyone who hunts outside of the need for food is scum.

I've never killed ANY animal (besides fish, which I ate) at this time, but if and when I do it will be for the purpose of eating it because I don't personally see the point of trophy hunting.

However, not seeing the point of something isn't the same as finding it abhorrent. While I do believe in not causing unnecessary suffering towards animals I do not remotely believe in the concept of animal 'rights', the life of a deer is nowhere near equal to the life of a person for various reasons as far as I am concerned.

So even though I do not intend to partake of the practice, I find it hard to get all emotionally worked up over someone who does trophy hunt so long as the animal dies quickly and it's death isn't going to screw up the local ecosystem because it's endangered or something.

 

[WestMountain]

Weapon of choice: M4

Game: Insurgents

 

[MagicMouse]

What about the need to protect crops and/ or livestock?

For example farmers shooting pigeons or crows that plague their crops.

Well that's fair enough, to a degree. Until you get people killing creatures for 'sport' using that as an excuse.

hunting in some places is a very important cultural event

lol'd.

really? you REALLY just insulted 13 million people in the united states alone? hunting is a family activity that educates children about our native lands and bring people together. It is an ANCIENT tradition and you should show some respect.

 

[flaming_squirrel]

So even though I do not intend to partake of the practice, I find it hard to get all emotionally worked up over someone who does trophy hunt so long as the animal dies quickly and it's death isn't going to screw up the local ecosystem because it's endangered or something.

It's not to do with destroying an eco system or the fact that it's some cute fluffy bunny wabbit, no-one has the right to destroy a life for pleasure/entertainment.

really? you REALLY just insulted 13 million people in the united states alone? hunting is a family activity that educates children about our native lands and bring people together. It is an ANCIENT tradition and you should show some respect.

Excuse me while I die of laughter (also, never put the words united states and ancient in the same sentance).

 

[chozo_hybrid]

What about the need to protect crops and/ or livestock?

For example farmers shooting pigeons or crows that plague their crops.

Well that's fair enough, to a degree. Until you get people killing creatures for 'sport' using that as an excuse.

hunting in some places is a very important cultural event

lol'd.

really? you REALLY just insulted 13 million people in the united states alone? hunting is a family activity that educates children about our native lands and bring people together. It is an ANCIENT tradition and you should show some respect.

Whilst I do not agree with hunting for my own personal reasons, you are correct. It is all those things to a lot of people.

 

[Eat Uranium]

Hunting for food - not something I've done personally, but probably the most accepted reason.

Controlling pests - I've done this, but not regularly.

 

[similar.squirrel]

Hell no. If you're going to kill the animal, at least have the courtesy to put yourself in danger too.

 

[Wadders]

really? you REALLY just insulted 13 million people in the united states alone? hunting is a family activity that educates children about our native lands and bring people together. It is an ANCIENT tradition and you should show some respect.

Excuse me while I die of laughter (also, never put the words united states and ancient in the same sentance).

I dont know where you live, but in my area of the UK, hunting (for game birds) is indeed a very old, very traditional activity, one that educates people about the place they live in and strengthens the ties between the people that live here and the countryside. It's a group activity, for family and friends, and contributes to the local economy. In short; it's an important part of our culture and heritage.

Don't slag something off just because you know little about it.

f I want to eat something I will go to the shop, if I want to kill something I will go on any number of games that have killing in and if I wanted fun I could do any number of things that are much more fun, so why would I want to take something else's life in order to have less fun, eat or have something to do?

The animal you eat that you bought in the shop has still been killed, hung up, cut apart and prepared by someone, for your convenience. A lot of people would rather do all that themselves. Then they can feel sure that the animal in question has had a good life, is healthy and is killed humanely. All this makes for a better deal for the animal, and a better deal for the consumer as the animal will taste better.

As I said before it's also part of the culture in certain areas.

 

[I Resurection I]

I dont hunt and never will because i would feel bad and I don't approve unless you use what you hunt. My brother hunts through, i happen to help animals at a local animal rehab center. Sybling rivaly shows strong at this point.

 

[feather240]

f I want to eat something I will go to the shop, if I want to kill something I will go on any number of games that have killing in and if I wanted fun I could do any number of things that are much more fun, so why would I want to take something else's life in order to have less fun, eat or have something to do?

Why is it ok to kill another animal for food but not a human? Were an animal and were edible, is it 'cos the only thing that separates us is opposable thumbs and a more advanced brain?

Bah, double standards!

...but you still eat meat. Animals that are killed out in the wild at least have a good chance at living. Where if you're born in a slaughter house...

 

[Eat Uranium]

Excuse me while I die of laughter (also, never put the words united states and ancient in the same sentance).

So native americans are just a conspiracy then?

 

[omega 616]

f I want to eat something I will go to the shop, if I want to kill something I will go on any number of games that have killing in and if I wanted fun I could do any number of things that are much more fun, so why would I want to take something else's life in order to have less fun, eat or have something to do?

Why is it ok to kill another animal for food but not a human? Were an animal and were edible, is it 'cos the only thing that separates us is opposable thumbs and a more advanced brain?

Bah, double standards!

...but you still eat meat. Animals that are killed out in the wild at least have a good chance at living. Where if you're born in a slaughter house...

So if there is meat on the shelves and loads of it probably already goes to waste why do I need to spend more on buying a gun, ammo etc go out of my way to go were the animals are find one kill it, skin it, take it home, clean it up, cut it up store extra then cook what I want.

When I can go to the shop were I can get other things and buy an already dead animal, that is cut cleaned all I have to do is cook it.

It's a waste of a life, time, effort and money. Let the animals get on with what they want to do rather than kill it for nothing. Imagine you were that poor animal, you go out for something to eat (down to the local take away for example) when a guy snipes you from an unseen location 300 foot away to eat you, if there is an afterlife I am pretty sure you would be a lil ticked off.

No animal is born and raised in a slaughter house, there raised on farms (battery or free range) and taken to slaughter.

I dont know where you live, but in my area of the UK, hunting (for game birds) is indeed a very old, very traditional activity, one that educates people about the place they live in and strengthens the ties between the people that live here and the countryside. It's a group activity, for family and friends, and contributes to the local economy. In short; it's an important part of our culture and heritage.

Don't slag something off just because you know little about it.

f I want to eat something I will go to the shop, if I want to kill something I will go on any number of games that have killing in and if I wanted fun I could do any number of things that are much more fun, so why would I want to take something else's life in order to have less fun, eat or have something to do?

The animal you eat that you bought in the shop has still been killed, hung up, cut apart and prepared by someone, for your convenience. A lot of people would rather do all that themselves. Then they can feel sure that the animal in question has had a good life, is healthy and is killed humanely. All this makes for a better deal for the animal, and a better deal for the consumer as the animal will taste better.

As I said before it's also part of the culture in certain areas.

Some traditions need to die out, if the bird population is radically out of control or causing massive damage then sure blow 'em to pieces but just a "lol, it go puff" is wrong.

"It strengthens the ties between the people that live here and the countryside.", by killing it? Does that make Hitler a humanitarian? He killed a small part of the human race (I am also pretty sure he experimented on them) and your killing a small part of the bird population.

So why waste that animal? It is already dead and prepared eat that one, rather than "want that one", I think the placebo makes up for a large part of peoples assumption that wild tastes better.

 

[Zorg Machine]

f I want to eat something I will go to the shop, if I want to kill something I will go on any number of games that have killing in and if I wanted fun I could do any number of things that are much more fun, so why would I want to take something else's life in order to have less fun, eat or have something to do?

Why is it ok to kill another animal for food but not a human? Were an animal and were edible, is it 'cos the only thing that separates us is opposable thumbs and a more advanced brain?

Bah, double standards!

...but you still eat meat. Animals that are killed out in the wild at least have a good chance at living. Where if you're born in a slaughter house...

So if there is meat on the shelves and loads of it probably already goes to waste why do I need to spend more on buying a gun, ammo etc go out of my way to go were the animals are find one kill it, skin it, take it home, clean it up, cut it up store extra then cook what I want.

When I can go to the shop were I can get other things and buy an already dead animal, that is cut cleaned all I have to do is cook it.

It's a waste of a life, time, effort and money. Let the animals get on with what they want to do rather than kill it for nothing. Imagine you were that poor animal, you go out for something to eat (down to the local take away for example) when a guy snipes you from an unseen location 300 foot away to eat you, if there is an afterlife I am pretty sure you would be a lil ticked off.

No animal is born and raised in a slaughter house, there raised on farms (battery or free range) and taken to slaughter.

should we also stop controlling animal populations by hunting them? I'm not sure how it is in England and USA but here in Sweden, Hunters have a certain amount of animals they can kill in their areas to control the population. without them, the animals would repopulate until the areas where they live are to small and there is not enough food to go around. besides, hunting is very entertaining.

 

[the_maestro_sartori]

My fiance is American, and by the summer (providing the Visa gets approved ) I'll be living in the US, NYC to be exact. My other half's father avidly goes bow-hunting for deer (somewhere near Pittsburgh, PA) and keeps telling me he should take me bow hunting, since I'm shit with a rifle but decent with a bow.
My question to anyone that bow hunts rather than hunting with a rifle/shotgun - and keep in mind this is from someone that's never killed an animal higher up the chain than say, a fly or spider, is- what if you hit it square in the flank, but it misses all organs, and hits the deck screaming and screaching. What's the best option there? shoot it again? run up and slit it's throat?
If either of the above: how "hard" is that to do, exactly? I dont think I'll have a problem shooting it, as someone above said, it's a target, that doesnt know you're there, loose the arrow and bob's your uncle, but if it's not a clean kill.. :s

 

[dark_taint92]

at the moment my regular hunting grounds are ut2004. and my weapon of choice is the flak cannon. my game is n00bs (just kiddin)

The flak was always my favourite weapon, also rocket launcher and Shock Rifle combos.

the shock rifle combo is awesome

 

[omega 616]

should we also stop controlling animal populations by hunting them? I'm not sure how it is in England and USA but here in Sweden, Hunters have a certain amount of animals they can kill in their areas to control the population. without them, the animals would repopulate until the areas where they live are to small and there is not enough food to go around. besides, hunting is very entertaining.

The problem with humans is we see this planet as ours, to control and govern everything on it and in it, we dominate everything, taking over massive amounts land, polluting the water and air so if any population needs to be controlled it's humans, last time I checked there were 6.8 billion of us, we can stand to lose a few.

People think bear baiting is entertaining, should we carry on doing that? Peado's enjoy having sex with children should we let them carry on with that? Extreme cases but your saying killing is fun, would you be having fun if you were on the other end of the gun?

(I am not advocating paedophilia in anyway)

 

[Wadders]

I dont know where you live, but in my area of the UK, hunting (for game birds) is indeed a very old, very traditional activity, one that educates people about the place they live in and strengthens the ties between the people that live here and the countryside. It's a group activity, for family and friends, and contributes to the local economy. In short; it's an important part of our culture and heritage.

Don't slag something off just because you know little about it.

f I want to eat something I will go to the shop, if I want to kill something I will go on any number of games that have killing in and if I wanted fun I could do any number of things that are much more fun, so why would I want to take something else's life in order to have less fun, eat or have something to do?

The animal you eat that you bought in the shop has still been killed, hung up, cut apart and prepared by someone, for your convenience. A lot of people would rather do all that themselves. Then they can feel sure that the animal in question has had a good life, is healthy and is killed humanely. All this makes for a better deal for the animal, and a better deal for the consumer as the animal will taste better.

As I said before it's also part of the culture in certain areas.

Some traditions need to die out, if the bird population is radically out of control or causing massive damage then sure blow 'em to pieces but just a "lol, it go puff" is wrong.

"It strengthens the ties between the people that live here and the countryside.", by killing it? Does that make Hitler a humanitarian? He killed a small part of the human race (I am also pretty sure he experimented on them) and your killing a small part of the bird population.

So why waste that animal? It is already dead and prepared eat that one, rather than "want that one", I think the placebo makes up for a large part of peoples assumption that wild tastes better.

Again with the assumption that hunters are intent on wiping species off the face of the earth. These birds are bred and reared by gamekeepers for the purpose of being shot and eaten. It has no effect on the overall population, and things like pheasants are not exactly rare anyway. It's no different to say, free range cattle being reared by farmers, then taken to the slaughterhouse and killed. It is in effect an industry, but one that co-exists with countryside tradition. Money is made from shoots, birds are sold to various parties (suppliers, butchers etc) it helps the local economy. It's just because it's not killed in a slaughterhouse that people seem to have a problem with it.

The only way in which it differs from other methods of farming is the way in which they are killed. Free range cattle are mostly killed with a boltgun to their head, pheasants/ quail etc are shot with a shotgun. So what?

It strengthens the ties between people and countryside because many hunters are involved in conservation of species. They live in the area, they like the countryside, they care for it and they learn about it, because doing this ensures that they will have something to hunt next season, and the countryside will not be damaged or changed for the worse. It promotes a general interest in the countryside. Seeing animals in their habitat, knowing where your meat comes from, walking through the forest and checking on your game, all of this is an important part of hunting. The killing is just a part of the overall process.

None of these animals are "wasted" any more than other farmed animals are wasted. And it does taste better. Unless you buy quality, but expensive meat, it probably wont taste the same as something you went out into a forest to kill. Just like free range beef thats lived a decent life outside, killed well and been hung for weeks tastes better than some wastage from a skinny dairy cow thats sold for half the price.

 

[RanD00M]

No,but i want to get a hunting license when i´m older.Then i shall hunt moose's and other stuff.

 

[Aur0ra145]

I hunt alot. White Tail Deer, Mule Deer, Rio Grande Turkey, Squirrel, Javelina and Rabbits. I use rifles varying in size from a .30-06 to a .22 Long.

 

[johnman]

I hunt rabbit and the occasional pigeon for the pot. My weapon is my .22 air rifle, I would like a full bore .22 but thats not really a realistic choice for my area or use, and my air rifle will happily take a rabbit down at around 20 metres.
most of the time I prefer to sit back and watch though, and that can feel even more rewarding than shooting them. I refuse to shoot pheasants though, as they are such pretty birds and watching them go about their business is such a pleasure.

Cool cool, I've always thought that of the two choices for double barrel shotguns the Over-Under ones are much more elegant looking than the Side-By-Side ones.

This is true, they are also much nicer to use and easier to aim.