Poll: The Hunting thread!

[flaming_squirrel]

I dont know where you live, but in my area of the UK, hunting (for game birds) is indeed a very old, very traditional activity, one that educates people about the place they live in and strengthens the ties between the people that live here and the countryside. It's a group activity, for family and friends, and contributes to the local economy. In short; it's an important part of our culture and heritage.

Oh come off it sunshine, I live in the UK and that's the most bullshit I've ever seen in one post.
It's an excuse for the toffs to go for a nice ol' ramble in the country with their chums and shoot a few pheasants, a bit like that other LOVED sport of fox hunting (although far more humane at least, and results in edibles).

Before you ask, I have met people who shoot game birds.

So native americans are just a conspiracy then?

The native americans history is not that of the USA, I'm sure you know why, but that's off topic.

 

[johnman]

I refuse to shoot pheasants though, as they are such pretty birds and watching them go about their business is such a pleasure.

But mon ami, they taste so sweeeeeet.

So I have been told, but their only around around 4 of them in my woodland, probly more but you dont see the females as often. We ahve a few partridges as well.

 

[Wadders]

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I don't think I even implied that people are out to wipe things off the face of the earth, i just see it as, if you want a bar of chocolate you don't read up on how to make chocolate then make it, you go down the shop and bar some then eat it. Why take the hard way round?

You might of heard of a programme/series called kill it cook it eat it, I watched all of them so I know what happens in slaughter houses.

Well with your accusation that hunting was reducing the bird population and the (rather absurd) reference to genocide, the implication was there. As I explained, to many people it is not "the hard way round", its a way of life, and a way of doing things that existed in rural ares for many years. With all the benefits that it has, why stop? Its just a different method of getting meat.

I've also seen that program, and it was pretty good Very interesting/ informative. The self-righteous vegan did get on my nerves a bit though haha.

The difference is one is left with the meat intact the other you have to pull buckshot out it's ass.

So? it may come as a surprise to you, but this isnt really a problem for people who eat the birds they shoot. As long as it tastes nice, people really ain't that picky. Also its part of the experience

And another thing, they wouldn't be pulling buckshot out of it's ass. Buckshot is for deer. Birdshot is for birds. If you're gonna make a point, at least get the terminology right.

You missed my point, if you have shelves and shelves, even entire aisles just for meat, let that go to waste? We might aswell all go out rifle in hand so the shops stop wasting animals (in both meanings of the word).

Well it might just be my taste buds then 'cos I can't tell the difference, I guess thats good for me, I can buy cheap stuff and it still tastes good.

People who hunt buy meat from shops too ya know. Mutton, lamb, beef, pork etc. And somehow I dont think that entire aisles of meat are going to waste, just because a minority of people in rural areas are breeding and killing some their own meat.

The cheap stuff is of lesser quality, the animal in question may well have had a shite life in a cage poorly treated, pumped with hormones etc and not fed as well as the more expensive stuff. It's an ethical thing, as well as a taste thing. If you dont distinguish between the taste of battery chicken an the taste of free range fair enough, but I'd rather think that the animal I'm eating has lived as it should. That makes it taste all the sweeter.

As an aside, where in the UK do you live? I have a feeling that if you lived in a rural area, you might have a differing opinion on the whole thing. Or maybe I'm wrong, but hey.

 

[SextusMaximus]

No but I'd like to. Killing Deer sounds quite fun and I'd do it just to annoy all my vegetarian friends.

 

[Wadders]

I dont know where you live, but in my area of the UK, hunting (for game birds) is indeed a very old, very traditional activity, one that educates people about the place they live in and strengthens the ties between the people that live here and the countryside. It's a group activity, for family and friends, and contributes to the local economy. In short; it's an important part of our culture and heritage.

Oh come off it sunshine, I live in the UK and that's the most bullshit I've ever seen in one post.
It's an excuse for the toffs to go for a nice ol' ramble in the country with their chums and shoot a few pheasants, a bit like that other LOVED sport of fox hunting (although far more humane at least, and results in edibles).

Before you ask, I have met people who shoot game birds.

No need to be rude.
Where do you live in the UK? It might not be a part of your culture and heritage but it's important to other people.

So yeah it's an excuse to go and shoot game birds who are bred for that very purpose and who taste fucking good. I fail to see a problem with that? As I said to that other guy, it's just a different way of getting your meat, and if you can go out in the woods in the morning with some friends and have a good time getting that meat, then so be it. It still ends up dead, whether it's killed by you or someone else.

Fox hunting, by contrast, is just daft. There's no real skill involved (other than riding a horse) and the hunters dont even kill the fox themselves. And the fox ends up wasted. It has no practical use. And why would I care if you have met people who shoot game birds?

I'd really like a Winchester 101, so if I can track one of those down, and it's in my budget, I'll be getting it

Spoiler

My my, that's a beauty. Good to shoot, steady and reliable. Might hurt your shoulder, though.

Isn't it just?

I dont know if I'll be able to afford one though

My friend has a Franchi Harrier 12 Bore and that kicks like a *****, even with lighter loads. I've figured if I can take that, I can take the Winchester. If not, I can always be a pansy and invest in a recoil pad

 

[DeadEnded]

Deer, 308 rifle.
clay pigeons, 16 gauge.

 

[Spitfire175]

Deer, Moose, duck, pheasant, rabbit, occasional bear and wolf, American mink.

I have a wide variety of hunting weapons, all the way from .22 bird guns to my Sako TRG 42. I hunt for the sport and the meat, I prepare and eat the animals I shoot. Not bears or wolves, of course. The rare occasion I get a carnivore in my sights is when I have been paid by a municipality to get rid of dangerous animals that have dome damage to lifestock or threatened humans.

I'd really like a Winchester 101, so if I can track one of those down, and it's in my budget, I'll be getting it

Spoiler

My my, that's a beauty. Good to shoot, steady and reliable. Might hurt your shoulder, though.

 

[johnman]

It's an excuse for the toffs to go for a nice ol' ramble in the country with their chums and shoot a few pheasants, a bit like that other LOVED sport of fox hunting (although far more humane at least, and results in edibles).

Not just toff's, all the other hunters I've met aren't either. Sure a lot of toff's will shoot, but they are by no means a vast major.

 

[omega 616]

Well with your accusation that hunting was reducing the bird population and the (rather absurd) reference to genocide, the implication was there. As I explained, to many people it is not "the hard way round", its a way of life, and a way of doing things that existed in rural ares for many years. With all the benefits that it has, why stop? Its just a different method of getting meat.

I've also seen that program, and it was pretty good Very interesting/ informative. The self-righteous vegan did get on my nerves a bit though haha.

The difference is one is left with the meat intact the other you have to pull buckshot out it's ass.

So? it may come as a surprise to you, but this isnt really a problem for people who eat the birds they shoot. As long as it tastes nice, people really ain't that picky. Also its part of the experience

And another thing, they wouldn't be pulling buckshot out of it's ass. Buckshot is for deer. Birdshot is for birds. If you're gonna make a point, at least get the terminology right.

You missed my point, if you have shelves and shelves, even entire aisles just for meat, let that go to waste? We might aswell all go out rifle in hand so the shops stop wasting animals (in both meanings of the word).

Well it might just be my taste buds then 'cos I can't tell the difference, I guess thats good for me, I can buy cheap stuff and it still tastes good.

People who hunt buy meat from shops too ya know. Mutton, lamb, beef, pork etc. And somehow I dont think that entire isles of meat are going to waste, just because a minority of people in rural areas are breeding and killing some their own meat.

The cheap stuff is of lesser quality, the animal in question may well have had a shite life in a cage poorly treated, pumped with hormones etc and not fed as well as the more expensive stuff. It's an ethical thing, as well as a taste thing. If you dont distinguish between the taste of battery chicken an the taste of free range fair enough, but I'd rather think that the animal I'm eating has lived as it should. That makes it taste all the sweeter.

As an aside, where in the UK do you live? I have a feeling that if you lived in a rural area, you might have a differing opinion on the whole thing. Or maybe I'm wrong, but hey.

Hitler never achieved genocide, he aimed for it though.

Like I said, if you want a bar of chocolate you don't read up on it and buy the machines to make it, you talk a walk to the shop. Making it is the hard way round, as is firing lead into the sky.

All vegans and veggies are self righteous, I always want to know how they feel when watching the animal channel. Were omnivores, we have to eat meat.

The ones that annoy me are the "veggies" who eat fish, fish is definitely meat, thats like saying "I am straight ... but I also have same sex relationships".

Well if there weird enough to hunt, there weird enough to pull lead out of dead birds. (I can call it weird 'cos weird means different and not normal relative to everybody, so if most people don't hunt then it is weird)

I'm sorry, you expect to know terminology on a subject I have no interest in? Thats like me asking you to know stuff about quantum psychics (I watched a programme on it last night at 3am).

Erm, isles of meat? that made me laugh. Aisles of meat you mean. I didn't imply that 'cos a few people blast birds out the sky or kill a few deer that the entire meat aisle is going to get thrown out, it's just that if it's there you might aswell eat that than create more of it.

Thats ironic, to atleast some degree. You care for the animals, even though you shoot another species of animal? I don't care how the animal was raised, I don't care how it was killed, I just care that it is on my plate.

I have lived in city then moved around the country side then I moved to suburbs and I am about to move again. In total I have moved 17 times so far.

 

[CNKFan]

Yeah I hunt deer. I use a Remington 870 Super Magnum or a Winchester .300 magnum rifle.

 

[Cosplay Horatio]

Hunting in video games - Trophy Hunting: Bear and moose cuz I hate them dam mooses (not kidding about the moose hate)

Hunting in real life - I take a double-barrel shotgun and hunt doves. They taste rather good. I hate killing in real life for fun.

 

[Wadders]

Hitler never achieved genocide, he aimed for it though.

He was responsible for the death of millions of Jews. Genocide is the destruction of all or a part of an ethinic/religious etc group. Hitler committed genocide. But whatever, that's beside the point

Like I said, if you want a bar of chocolate you don't read up on it and buy the machines to make it, you talk a walk to the shop. Making it is the hard way round, as is firing lead into the sky.

And? Some people enjoy doing it the "hard way round". If they didn't, they wouldn't spend money on guns and ammunition and club memberships, they wouldn't spend their time training gun dogs. That's what I'm trying to say. Just because it seems like more work to you, it does not mean it's an invalid method of acquiring food.

All vegans and veggies are self righteous, I always want to know how they feel when watching the animal channel. Were omnivores, we have to eat meat.

The ones that annoy me are the "veggies" who eat fish, fish is definitely meat, thats like saying "I am straight ... but I also have same sex relationships".

Fair point
And funnily enough, my parents are some of those weirdos who only eat fish, not other meats. I dont get it myself, but they dont mind me eating meat, and they're not particularly self righteous, so I'm not too bothered

Well if there weird enough to hunt, there weird enough to pull lead out of dead birds. (I can call it weird 'cos weird means different and not normal relative to everybody, so if most people don't hunt then it is weird)

I'm sorry, you expect to know terminology on a subject I have no interest in? Thats like me asking you to know stuff about quantum psychics (I watched a programme on it last night at 3am).

Sure it's weird to you, that's fair enough. No ones making you eat it.

As far as terminology goes, thats an understandable point. I just assumed that most people know a buck is a name for a male deer, just like people know a male cow is a bull.

Erm, isles of meat? that made me laugh. Aisles of meat you mean. I didn't imply that 'cos a few people blast birds out the sky or kill a few deer that the entire meat aisle is going to get thrown out, it's just that if it's there you might aswell eat that than create more of it.

Thats ironic, to atleast some degree. You care for the animals, even though you shoot another species of animal? I don't care how the animal was raised, I don't care how it was killed, I just care that it is on my plate.

I have lived in city then moved around the country side then I moved to suburbs and I am about to move again. In total I have moved 17 times so far.

Yeah that's what I meant. No one's perfect

The fact that meats like venison, quail, goose and pheasant are not readily available (in comparison to other more conventional meat) in shops is an incentive to go and hunt it. If it was all there on the shelves, in a comparable quality to meat that has been hunted, then I'm sure people would buy it.

And what if people prefer going out into the woods and killing it themselves? Which is what your disregard to the animal's well being may stem from. You dont see it alive in the field or woods, you dont have to feed it, you dont have to kill it yourself, you have no connection with the animal. It's just something on your plate.

Thusly, caring for animals and then killing them is not a worthless concept as you suggest. Sure a lamb might end up headless and upside down on a hook in an abattoir someplace, but that is no good reason to treat it poorly in life. Up until the point it's killed, it's a living thing and worthy of respect, as it is providing you with food. Same of pheasants, deer, boar, or whatever else people hunt.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Not exactly hunting but when mixamatosis got to the local rabbit population on my mates dads land we used to go round putting them out of their misery with a .303 or 12 guage.

 

[funksobeefy]

Excuse me while I die of laughter (also, never put the words united states and ancient in the same sentance).

So native americans are just a conspiracy then?

Im glad you said that, cause that was the first thing I thought of.

I dont hunt, just because its nust not my thing. I know hunting in the United States is very important for pest and animal control. It keeps the animals from overpopulation and prevents bigger animals from suffocating smaller more adapt animals from their ever decreasing habitat.

 

[Latinidiot]

I'm confused. At first i thought that you were talking about real life hunting, then i saw word ''game''. Are you talking about hunting games?
Or are you thinking that killing innocent animals is a game? That's sick.
No, i don't hunt. I don't like the idea of killing animals by shooting them from distance.

no dude, the game is how you call what you're hunting.
if you hunt, for instance, rabbits, rabbits are your game

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

I'm surprised nobody has said "I hunt the most dangerous game, MAN" yet.

Because those of us who are brave enough to don't feel the need to brag about it.

 

[Abedeus]

No, unless you count Sniper with his bow.

 

[Gilhelmi]

I have a very "Native-American" View on hunting. If you shoot it, you eat it, use the skin (I am thinking a nice leather blanket), and waist as little of the animal as possible. So I have not gone hunting in about 16 years (I was 10 or 11), I was with the Boy scouts (not officially but with the kids and the parents that were in Scouting). It was a good time, did not see a thing but it was still fun.