Poll: Will bioware be able to pull this year off?
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Ehhhh... not sure really...
The problem is that Bioware has gotten so big and has so many teams working at the same time that the brand name doesn't really mean that much anymore. Also, Dragon Age 2 has me worried. While it's a good game, it is showing a decline in quality that I did not expect from Bioware. As a result, I'm a bit apprehensive about Mass Effect 3 as well.
As for TOR, I wish it the best, but I won't be playing it this year due to a lack of funds. Also, let's just remember that when MMO's crash, they crash hard.
Overall, Bioware will do well if TOR isn't a disaster. DA2 sold reasonably well for such a rush job of a game, ME3 has a fanbase ready to gulp it up (I'm one of the people likely to do the gulping) and TOR is the only one in danger.
The problem is that Bioware has gotten so big and has so many teams working at the same time that the brand name doesn't really mean that much anymore. Also, Dragon Age 2 has me worried. While it's a good game, it is showing a decline in quality that I did not expect from Bioware. As a result, I'm a bit apprehensive about Mass Effect 3 as well.
As for TOR, I wish it the best, but I won't be playing it this year due to a lack of funds. Also, let's just remember that when MMO's crash, they crash hard.
Overall, Bioware will do well if TOR isn't a disaster. DA2 sold reasonably well for such a rush job of a game, ME3 has a fanbase ready to gulp it up (I'm one of the people likely to do the gulping) and TOR is the only one in danger.
Holy crap WoW could support 10 Blizzards?ciortas1 said:
I thought most of that money went into keeping WoW's servers up.
It can't be healthy to play more than one MMORPG and WoW has such a critical mass by this point that I doubt anyone will stop playing it.
It's not going to happen for Old Republic.
Best case scenario is that Bioware doesn't go under six months after launch.
Mass Effect 3 will be christmas come early for me.
TOR on the other hand makes me quake with rage, I am still one of those fans angrily waiting for the real Kotor III.
TOR on the other hand makes me quake with rage, I am still one of those fans angrily waiting for the real Kotor III.
see thats the problem with alot of high fantasy its all SAVE THE WORLD!! every timeWouldYouKindly said:
I mean if you create such an interesting world with good charachters you dont have to have the chosen one save it every bloody time when theres obviously so much other interesting stuff going on
Mess effect 3 is a different team to DA2 (DA kinda copied them I supose) anyway I dont see what people are so worried about, unless your expecting a game to fit exactally your standards you shouldnt be disapointedJandau said:
and besides I doubt they'll change things up too much this time around save for some improvments (I hear theres ladders you can climb!)
thats a pretty..strange quote any Idea where it came from?Mikeyfell said:
anyway I know they wanted to tweak and improve the shooting...oh and ALOT of people liked ME2 so they didnt lose any money there..
and Im going to be honest and say I think some so called Bioware "fans" need to pull their heads out of their ass and realise its not the end of the world if bioware makes a game they dont like...or doesn't match up to their standards and ALSO stop treating their own opinion as fact
and I dont know....enjoy the game on its own merits as opoased to weather or not is has an inventory systm?
If anyone can do it, it is Bioware. I think Dragon Age 2 was rushed, but I also think they changed the gameplay more than they really had to in an effort to appease console players (pssst they think you're dumb).
I think Mass Effect has become THE game they are probably focusing on. I'm sure they have been doing work on 3 since before 2 wrapped, so don't be so sure it is rushed. They have more done than they are showing I think. Mass Effect 3 will probably kick ass like 2 did. I don't see them dropping the ball.
Now the MMO... I hate MMOs these days. The potential for failure here is much much greater. The scope is huge, the balancing is complex. Of course WoW is like a 700lb. man sitting on your face. Good luck getting rid of that. Being a Star Wars property gives it an audience a little larger perhaps than the gamers who played KotoR. If they can demonstrate quality I think they stand a better chance than a smaller developer.
I think Mass Effect has become THE game they are probably focusing on. I'm sure they have been doing work on 3 since before 2 wrapped, so don't be so sure it is rushed. They have more done than they are showing I think. Mass Effect 3 will probably kick ass like 2 did. I don't see them dropping the ball.
Now the MMO... I hate MMOs these days. The potential for failure here is much much greater. The scope is huge, the balancing is complex. Of course WoW is like a 700lb. man sitting on your face. Good luck getting rid of that. Being a Star Wars property gives it an audience a little larger perhaps than the gamers who played KotoR. If they can demonstrate quality I think they stand a better chance than a smaller developer.
lookin ant the info on TOR its gonna kill,a lot of WoW people bound to leave ol'faithful for TOR cause guess what has the biggest fan base on the planet..star wars
Depends.
It all rests on The Old Republic. IF the rumors about it's astronomical cost are to be believed.
Mass Effect 3 will sell great, even if it's rubbish. Average Joe gamer wont know that it's the same company that...excreted Dragon Age 2.
Though, the Mass Effect team has talent. I didn't like the direction either Mass Effect 2 or Dragon Age 2 took. The difference is I still loved Mass Effect 2 by the end.
I'm confident it will be great (Bet it wont live up to the hype though, the bar is WAY to high).
TOR...I cant say fairly, not an MMORPG fan, never played one for any length longer then a trail.
It looks just like WOW though, dated graphics, stiff animation, collect 10 Wookie hides.
It's certainly not winning me over. On top of that, the "Force Mage" in Dragon Age 2 felt like a preview to me. If it was? Not impressed.
Now, Guild Wars 2 on the other hand...I might consider.
It all rests on The Old Republic. IF the rumors about it's astronomical cost are to be believed.
Mass Effect 3 will sell great, even if it's rubbish. Average Joe gamer wont know that it's the same company that...excreted Dragon Age 2.
Though, the Mass Effect team has talent. I didn't like the direction either Mass Effect 2 or Dragon Age 2 took. The difference is I still loved Mass Effect 2 by the end.
I'm confident it will be great (Bet it wont live up to the hype though, the bar is WAY to high).
TOR...I cant say fairly, not an MMORPG fan, never played one for any length longer then a trail.
It looks just like WOW though, dated graphics, stiff animation, collect 10 Wookie hides.
It's certainly not winning me over. On top of that, the "Force Mage" in Dragon Age 2 felt like a preview to me. If it was? Not impressed.
Now, Guild Wars 2 on the other hand...I might consider.
I can't run things at max levels anyway, so I'm used to games looking like shit. Besides, graphics are pretty but tons of people get a lot of enjoyment out of the boxes of Minecraft. The game didn't appeal to you. Let's use other media to demonstrate, I don't like emo music, does that mean no one can honestly like emo music? I wish that were true, but it's probably not. I like punk rock(reason #1 why I hate emo music, damn bastards ripping us off and then pansifying it), does that mean everyone has to like it? No. You have your opinion, I have mine and you don't have to assume there's a psychological reason I refuse to acknowledge what you perceive as a mistake. Oh, and I don't mind being wrong, when there is a definite wrong. In the world of entertainment, there is no definite wrong or right so stop acting like there is. Oh, what does it matter anyway, you're just going to use BS soft science psychology to say my 50$ regret is making me say these things.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Well, there went my good mood for today, and I was so happy(in a kinda superficial way) after the Bruins won today.
Vault101 said:
My initial reaction to that was "Oh shit, what corners did they cut to improve the combat."
but even if they didn't cut any corners anywhere this shows that they don't even remember that they make RPG's anymore.
Yes A LOT of people liked Mass Effect 2, I'm among them. ME2 has got to be one of the best games I've ever played. The combat is not the hook of that game. The people who only care about the combat would be playing Gears of War. It's hard for me to believe that Bioware wants to compete in a different market.
In the back of my mind I'll never give up the hope that all this talk about Mass Effect being a CoD killer is just a marketing ploy to trick the FPS crowd into buying their game. That way after they make billions of dollars they can say "Gotcha suckers, now we can make a new IP!"
And who knows maybe The Old Republic will overtake WoW and become the new king of MMO town.
But the best part the people who go on a thread asking people what their opinion is about something and say this.
but you took that quote and completley twisted it around, all it really ment was "we are working on improving the combat" not "we want it to be like bullet storm"Mikeyfell said:
Bullet storm is a FIRST person shooter...ME? 3rd person perspective...VERY different things
Mass effect a COD killer? since when? like I said 3rd person FIRST person...VERY different
mabye Bioware isnt so much focusing on the hardcore RPG thing...well what can you do? I mean as long as the GAMES are good (like you even said with ME2) then thats all one can really hope for
anyway Im not saying your not entitled to your opinion...its just somtimes I get the impression that people expect a game to follow an EXACT set of standdards if its from a developer with a reputation and following like Bioware (or the game to be perfect), they try and deviate from that (or put out somthing less thatn perfect) and people act like they have unsulted their god or somthing
and I mean they arnt actually looking at what the game is rather what it ISNT. Im not saying you or anyone else has to love every game Bioware makes but it justs seems like people lack perspective
Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2 are and were developed by two different Bioware studios. What's happened in DA won't negatively effect ME, because it's a different team working on it. I have to say that I'm pretty pumped.
TOR, I'm not sure about though. Admittedly, the project stole all of Bioware's best writers - that's why ME2 wasn't story-wise at quite the same level as its predecessor - and they've put a lot of time and a lot of money into developing it. However, I don't know how well it's all going to come together, or even where the potential crowd is going to come from. It's very difficult to steal an audience from another MMO, and there aren't just that many people left who might potentially pick this game up. Then again, I could be wrong.
Side note:
It's DA3 that I'm really concerned about. Hopefully the studio responsible for that game can put in a much greater effort next time.
TOR, I'm not sure about though. Admittedly, the project stole all of Bioware's best writers - that's why ME2 wasn't story-wise at quite the same level as its predecessor - and they've put a lot of time and a lot of money into developing it. However, I don't know how well it's all going to come together, or even where the potential crowd is going to come from. It's very difficult to steal an audience from another MMO, and there aren't just that many people left who might potentially pick this game up. Then again, I could be wrong.
Side note:
It's DA3 that I'm really concerned about. Hopefully the studio responsible for that game can put in a much greater effort next time.
you know the whole "if you disagree with me then your eather deluded or proving me right" thing doesnt exactally do much for your argument, kind of like Moviebobs video on PC gamingSmashLovesTitanQuest said:
then again its a rant...so yeah