Poll: Woman cuts man's penis with boxcutter - gets no jail time

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Something Amyss

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stroopwafel said:
Well, accordingly the perpetrator got no jail time and she wasn't put on trial for fraud. Which definitely should have happened. This reeks of a shitty deal in the DA's office.
Which has little to do with what the victim was okay with.
 

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Huh, I see I'm in a very clear minority that voted the thing as injustice to the man, and justice for the woman. We are a bit of a vengeful sort, aren't we? Maybe it's because I've started to try and distance myself from the situation, and instead of thinking "what would I personally like to see happen to those two?" and more "what would be more benefical for the society as a whole?"
And in my opinion, it would benefit the community most if she gets that 16-months treatment, which hopefully will motivate her to not go crazy and cut guys penises with a box cutter (difficult to say, since I haven't exactly got a psych profile on her) , and continue being a productive member of the group instead of the community using further resources to unneccesarily imprison her longer (whatever sentence she gets, she's probably going to be remembered for quite some time as "that crazy ***** who cut a guy's penis with a box cutter" and have to live with that).
 

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I've seen this reported differently. Someone shared a link on FB (can't remember which news site, didn't read it) and she shared her opinion. From what she said, the man had molested the child and had an unfairly small jail term. She attacked him when he was released. The person who posted the link was in full support of the woman, citing she would do the same if someone touched her son. Even from what she said, I didn't agree with it.

Whilst I know how hard it is to not let your emotions interfere with something like this, even if the man was guilty, she was insanely wrong to do this. If anyone ever molested my nieces or nephews I'd want to hunt them down and put them six feet under but they should be left to rot in prison.

Trying to get "justice" is just stupid. It makes you no better than them. This woman sounds sick in the head, I really hope her children are removed from her care.
 

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nightmare_gorilla said:
secondly the reasons given for circumcision are almost exactly the same as the reasons for FGM. they do it for religious reason, to be visually apealing for the rest of the world, and to desensitize the area in order to discourage the person from masturbating or engaging in sex before marriage. and yes circumcision does desensitize the penis. it is literally almost exactly the same thing.
It isn't. It really, really is not.

Yes, there are problems with circumcising males. FGM, or at least the forms generally complained about, happens to be much worse. Male circumcision is used as a false equivalency, to say "what about the menz?", but it's not the same.
 

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Without knowing what her suspicions were, I'm voting injustice for both. She needs more time/worse punishment, and he should have been punished through the legal system. I don't have a large amount of faith in the system, but I think I'd feel better about them administering his punishment than a crazy chick with box cutter.
 

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Okay, okay, I know the singular of "data" is "datum," not "anecdote," but here goes anyway.

nightmare_gorilla said:
The reasons given for circumcision are almost exactly the same as the reasons for female genital mutilation: religious reasons; to be visually appealing for the rest of the world; and to desensitize the area in order to discourage the person from masturbating or engaging in sex before marriage.
My parents said they did it to me for health and hygiene reasons, though I suppose they might lie to me if the real reason was that my dick wearing a turtleneck skeeved my mom out or that they thought it would attract more sexual partners to me. If they thought it would stop me jacking off, though, they couldn't have been more wrong. Comical crudeness of my tone notwithstanding, I am deadly serious when I say I masturbated so much I felt like the punchline in a joke about how often men wank. Four times a day was quite common for a while there. I don't know how often those of you with your foreskins would rub one out, but I feel like it would almost have to be less than me during my prime.

nightmare_gorilla said:
Circumcision does desensitize the penis.
I'm grateful for that, then, because it an orgasm feels even better to you than it does to me, then I'm not sure I could handle it (rimshot).
 

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It's just like when the View made fun of a guy who got his penis chopped off and thrown in the garbage disposal. Lulz all around, and you go girl, that guy deserved it, and then didn't even bother to give a sincere apology when people rose a stink.
If the genders were flipped in either case the man would either be dead or be in prison for life.
It's pretty much shit like this that causes me not to give a flying fuck when people complain about various crap. Oh no you're offended by a guy wearing an eccentric shirt and you're demanding he lose his job over it, oh but that guy getting mutilated is hilarious? DIAF.
 

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Ok, at first I swore it said she cut it off, and then I thought that they had dramatically underprosecuted her. Instead she cut a dude in a non fatal region. It's not a matter of justice for the guy. If he was guilty of molesting the kid, then the authorities should do something about it. However if he did nothing (and the mom's assertion looks lousy), then this was terribly unjust. If this causes him lasting damage either way, it's pretty unjust.
So in the end it sounds like she got some probation and house confinement. She DID plead guilty, as such she deserves a lighter sentence. If she went down swinging saying not guilty, then I would have said to throw the book at her to make an example of her.
 

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Xiado said:
And here we see the effects of feminism in action: Women being absolved of responsibility for their decisions... Even more disgusting is the men who helped her commit the crime, idiotic white knights taking a woman's word for it with no evidence and ruining a man's life.
I know, right, women weren't treated differently from men before feminism, nor assumed to be incapable of causing serious harm.
 

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Hey hey hey hey hey hey, slow down there.

Did I say anything about this being a fair punishment?

No?

Then don't phrase your browbeating of me in a way that indicates I did.
It's probably because it does seem like you are only commenting on people's quotes who are having an emotional reaction to the fact that it does appear at first glance that a woman in Indiana can get away with capturing and torturing a man with relatively little repurcussions.

Admittedly I'd like to know more about the case, but sensational journalism for the win!
 

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Xiado said:
And here we see the effects of feminism in action: Women being absolved of responsibility for their decisions... Even more disgusting is the men who helped her commit the crime, idiotic white knights taking a woman's word for it with no evidence and ruining a man's life.
Hate to break it to ya pal, but this is "The Patriarchy" in action. After all, you've got the "mom in defense of her child" bit and the "women are less prone to violence" bit; which leads into the "she must've had a reason" bit and the "ladies shouldn't go to jail" bit.

Tear those down and we can treat this sort of thing as equals.
 

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the December King said:
It's probably because it does seem like you are only commenting on people's quotes who are having an emotional reaction to the fact that it does appear at first glance that a woman in Indiana can get away with capturing and torturing a man with relatively little repurcussions.

Admittedly I'd like to know more about the case, but sensational journalism for the win!
Yes, it seems reasonable to paint me as defending this woman for simply sticking with facts.

I also want to point out that the coverage wasn't even particularly sensationalist. People here added things like her cutting "off" his dick, and until it was revised the topic didn't mention that she faced house arrest, let alone probation and anger management. In fact, you know where I got all my information? From those "sensationalist" journalists.

That's the problem here. It wasn't the journalists that were the problem. It was a bunch of people who either didn't read or misrepresented the articles in question getting butthurt because of perceived "reverse sexism" without stopping to make any consideration for the fact.

Or as it's better known in gaming circles, "ethics in journalism."
 

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MURICA FUCK YAH!

This type of double standard is ridiculous and disgusting, but it's the american justice system so I can't say I'm suprised, the news report seems a bit dodgy to me though, seems to be alot of details missing...
 

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Xiado said:
And here we see the effects of feminism in action: Women being absolved of responsibility for their decisions... Even more disgusting is the men who helped her commit the crime, idiotic white knights taking a woman's word for it with no evidence and ruining a man's life.
altnameJag said:
Hate to break it to ya pal, but this is "The Patriarchy" in action. After all, you've got the "mom in defense of her child" bit and the "women are less prone to violence" bit; which leads into the "she must've had a reason" bit and the "ladies shouldn't go to jail" bit.

Tear those down and we can treat this sort of thing as equals.
Actually, you're both wrong. This is the State of Indiana in action, and they apparently have a history of shitty sentencing.

Like this dude, who got a year's probation after pleading to four counts of battery:

http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/local_story/Former-officer-pleads-guilty-_1415928352/

It looks like the gender of the individual isn't a factor, or at least not to the same extent people are making it out to be. No feminism, no patriarchy involved.

Can we stop trying to force this to fit our own agendas and look at the real issue that seems to be at play here?
 

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thewatergamer said:
This type of double standard is ridiculous and disgusting, but it's the american justice system so I can't say I'm suprised, the news report seems a bit dodgy to me though, seems to be alot of details missing...
What double standard are you talking about here?
 

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Rednog said:
It's just like when the View made fun of a guy who got his penis chopped off and thrown in the garbage disposal. Lulz all around, and you go girl, that guy deserved it, and then didn't even bother to give a sincere apology when people rose a stink.
Not really...accuse a guy of molesting a kid and you'll find people to support whatever you do to him. The victim in the case you mention wasn't even accused of doing anything illegal, IIRC.

Rednog said:
It's pretty much shit like this that causes me not to give a flying fuck when people complain about various crap. Oh no you're offended by a guy wearing an eccentric shirt and you're demanding he lose his job over it, oh but that guy getting mutilated is hilarious? DIAF.
By extension, nobody should care about this because of something worse that has happened.