Poll: Would you die for your country?
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It is just a bit sad, but what can you expect? And why do you think people will get banned?DannibalG36 said:
That is probably one of the best speeches in a movie I have ever heard, damn I need to watch that again.Totenkopf said:
No. The United States is basically like my high school. I don't mind the place itself, don't really mind the people in charge (but I do tend to disagree with them), but I have an extreme hatred for 80%+ of the morons I'm stuck here with...
Psst! Come to America, we have cookies and gorgeous women, what other reasons do you needRanD00M said:
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I find the question too simple to be responsibly answered.
Would I put my life on the line for an adequately good cause? Sure. Nobody lives forever anyway, and if I end up spending my life on something far greater than I could have accomplished with that time, then it's the best legacy I can leave the world.
Would I enroll in a military whose conscripts lives are thrown away in unworthy causes whose main purpose is to serve the profiteers under the pretense of patriotism? Not if I can help it.
"For your country" is ambiguous in that it does not clearly establish the true scenario. World War II was a good war with a good cause. Many of the wars that have followed, however, smell strongly of the later scenario. Throughout history, in many cases, fools being duped to be pawns in the power struggles among the upper class have always been the true face of war. It's much harder to spill blood for truly good causes than it is bad causes pretending to be good causes.
Would I put my life on the line for an adequately good cause? Sure. Nobody lives forever anyway, and if I end up spending my life on something far greater than I could have accomplished with that time, then it's the best legacy I can leave the world.
Would I enroll in a military whose conscripts lives are thrown away in unworthy causes whose main purpose is to serve the profiteers under the pretense of patriotism? Not if I can help it.
"For your country" is ambiguous in that it does not clearly establish the true scenario. World War II was a good war with a good cause. Many of the wars that have followed, however, smell strongly of the later scenario. Throughout history, in many cases, fools being duped to be pawns in the power struggles among the upper class have always been the true face of war. It's much harder to spill blood for truly good causes than it is bad causes pretending to be good causes.
I'd defend my family or friends if they were threatened, but if it was some war that doesn't affect me there's no way in hell I'm getting involved.
Yes, and you will have a minimum of one wild sex orgy a day with the rest of the moon-beings.oktalist said:
I always wondered what the end of warfare would look like. Doubted it would be a billion chilled-out humanitarians sitting around in a circle singing Let It Be.
I think this thread is a fairly good example of what it'd really be like.
It's bunch of cynical-before-their-time individualists proclaiming their own self-worth and importance above that of the collective; neatly rationalized through convenient exploitation of the inherent flaws and complications of a complex system and sustained through the willful misreading (or outright dismissal) of the actual meaning of what it is to be united under the banner of a nation.
Sheesh. I'll take over-enthusiasatic nationalism any day. It may not be pretty all of the time (though it certainly can be), but at least the participants don't put Nietzsche's Last Man to shame.
I think this thread is a fairly good example of what it'd really be like.
It's bunch of cynical-before-their-time individualists proclaiming their own self-worth and importance above that of the collective; neatly rationalized through convenient exploitation of the inherent flaws and complications of a complex system and sustained through the willful misreading (or outright dismissal) of the actual meaning of what it is to be united under the banner of a nation.
Sheesh. I'll take over-enthusiasatic nationalism any day. It may not be pretty all of the time (though it certainly can be), but at least the participants don't put Nietzsche's Last Man to shame.
America hating Socialist! Quick, everyone hide your grandparents!geldonyetich said:
Seriously though, this. It would vary widely on circumstance, as it stands now I will not serve a military force that won't accept me as is. I would also like to believe that I think for myself enough to fight for my own ideals, and not just blindly follow the ideals of my countrymen.
