Poll: Would you harbor a nazi?

[Leg End]

You don?t get a say.

Any reason why not? :/

And this is hardly playing god this is simply bring a war criminal too justice.

Can we have George W. Bush on trial then? :/

The Revenge based justice system is crap. Solves absolutely nothing. He has payed his dues in more ways than one. Punishment now would be meaningless.

Bush wasn't the (only) root of that problem, but I don't want to get into that argument... too long, too stupid, too painful.

You are right that revenge based justice is useless; mainly because it relies entirely on opinion, which by nature varies from person to person. We, as a society, agree on a few things that should not be allowed, and these are codified in "laws." But laws have jurisdictions. If a man murders someone who isn't a citizen of any nation, on land that isn't owned by any nation, is it a crime? By law, no. By morality? Too complex to answer simply yes or no. Morality is too fluid and mutable to use as a basis for any decision, since it is different for every individual. There is no way to deal with this in a fully just and fair way; no matter the intent of a system, there will be SOMEONE who gets unjustly screwed. NO system is perfect.

We can, however, look at the values that form morality. WHY do we hate the Nazis? Most of them never killed anyone. Not. ONE. Person. Only a select few committed what we would call "war crimes" but even that term is useless; did not allied generals commit atrocities which the Germans could never hope to match? how about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? How about the firebombing of Tokyo? between the three, more than 500,000 civilians dead, in just three days of terror and destruction. Were the generals that ordered those strikes persecuted? No. 'Justice' is a meaningless term, used by those with loose morals to rationalize the destruction of those they hate.

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I love you. You win on every level. Forever.

You don?t get a say.

Any reason why not? :/

And this is hardly playing god this is simply bring a war criminal too justice.

Can we have George W. Bush on trial then? :/

The Revenge based justice system is crap. Solves absolutely nothing. He has payed his dues in more ways than one. Punishment now would be meaningless.

Like I said it?s the justice system that determines if someone as paid their dues not you or anyone else.


The law doesn?t make exceptions based on age if you break the law your punished it doesn?t matter how old you are or if you?ve repented

Is the justice system some sort of floating head? :/ You state it as if humans were not the ones running the system. :/

Well, that varies from place to place actually. But, back to the previous point, the idea of the "Justice" system as it is, is a load of fish paste. <.< Punishment is not a good deterrent and does nothing to actually solve the issue in the first place, but, I digress. That is a discussion for another thread.

 

[Lord Doomhammer]

I might have harbored someone like Erwin Rommel, the tank commander of the Africa core. He fought a war of honor and cunning maneuvers, a gentleman soldier who had a sense of self respect and fair play.

Someone from a concentration camp would be another story. Odds are I'd bring him to the police myself. You don't repent from evil.

 

[Th37thTrump3t]

How old are we talking about exactly? If he is anywhere between 75-80 then I would just say fuck it and leave him be. Chances are he'll die within a few years so what's the point of throwing him in jail? Nature is the most effective killer.

 

[Kouryuu]

Considering the fact that I live in a country that split off from the CCCP, I'd say that I'm quite familiar with the Soviet modus operadi.

Nice to see a neighbour here too. greetings from Latvia. Labs rits!

Anyone Read "Blitzwing" motto in the profile!

 

[Booze Zombie]

They couldn't do anything about it. They were fools, and have changed. One exception. If the words or phrase "I was just following orders." come out of their mouth, I'm turning them in. To quote The 9th Doctor: "And with that sentence, you just lost the right to even talk to me."

Except it has been found through this experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment) that a lot of people will simply follow orders from someone who's "in charge".
Which is a shame, really...

 

[Lucie]

I would turn him in, after all I'm not the one to judge, there's a legal system for that. It's their decision to imprison him or not or opt for another punishment. Not my choice to make. After all, even if years go by and he sincerely regrets his actions, where do you draw the line on which crime to forgive and which one not? I couldn't forgive all crimes, even after repentance so it would be kinda hypocritical of me to pick the ones I think are acceptable to forgive and forget.

 

[demotion1]

We are all people. A war is an impossible situation were the worst of people comes out. If they have regretted that means that their life has and will be hunted forever by what they did. I would help them if they are good people. I would probably not hide them though.

Ask yourself this: would you do the same for the Americans who dropped the atomic bombs? That was a worst crime than all the nazi crimes put together in my oppinion.

 

[Slippers]

Considering the fact that I live in a country that split off from the CCCP, I'd say that I'm quite familiar with the Soviet modus operadi.

Nice to see a neighbour here too. greetings from Latvia. Labs rits!

Anyone Read "Blitzwing" motto in the profile!

Laba diena broli Latvi.

Could you tell me what that videos about? My internet connection is incredibly slow at the moment.

Soviet war crimes.

 

[kahlzun]

It depends to what degree he was involved in stuff.

I get that he could have quite easily been caught up in things, and by the time he realised what was going on, he was in too deep to escape.

If he was one of the SS guys who collected tattoos or skulls: no, i would turn him over

If he was like the Kommandant out of "My Name is David" then yes, i would harbour him.

 

[Macgyvercas]

Well this is quite the conundrum. I like to consider myself Lawful Good and don't like the idea of breaking the law... Yet at the same time if I've seen that this man changed, I wouldn't want him to just be sent to a court where he'd be condemned as soon as the word "Ex-Nazi" is uttered... I would probably just let him stay for the meantime and try to convince him to go to court himself and make an appeal, hell I'd even be willing to put my reputation on the line to stand up for him in court.

Just pray that the jury and judge are Lawful Neutral. They'd be the most fair in a court case.

 

[Kouryuu]

True but if police are looking for this hypothetical Nazi then he didn?t meet them.

Did Nuremberg work on individual cases? I guess not.

watch this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5qQsXUZh0I&feature=related ]

Could you tell me what that videos about? My internet connection is incredibly slow at the moment.

for example about this

The Holodomor (Ukrainian: &#1043;&#1086;&#1083;&#1086;&#1076;&#1086;&#1084;&#1086;&#1088;, '&#1052;&#1086;&#1088;&#1080;&#1090;&#1080; &#1075;&#1086;&#1083;&#1086;&#1076;&#1086;&#1084;', literal translation Killing by hunger) was a man-made famine in the Ukrainian SSR, part of the Soviet famine of 1932?1933. During the famine, which is also known as the "terror-famine in Ukraine" and "famine-genocide in Ukraine", millions of Ukrainians died of starvation in a peacetime catastrophe unprecedented in the history of Ukraine.

For clarification Man-Made means the Soviets took the food away and sold it to Europe(Germany)!

and don't even get me started on things that happened in wartime.
If you insist on representing the justice, then you should know everything, not just The big Picture.
then for my country The Nazis Where the heroes. They done things that are unforgivable, but they are angels in compartment to the soviets.

 

[Leg End]

Of course humans run the system but you aren?t one of them.

You would be correct, I am no human. I am something else entirely, yet that is for another reason entirely, completely unrelated to the reason you hint at.

But, I digress.

My point being, the "system" is run by man, you act as if it is run by the Patriots AI. :/

 

[graverobber2]

I?d keep him hidden like the jews in WWII and have him live in fear just like them
(i.e. taste of his own medicine)

 

[michiehoward]

If he was truly repentant and regretted his crimes, he would have turned himself in. Seems to me he is only sorry that he has finally been caught.