Real lightsaber hits UK stores

[Skullmaster123]

It's less dangerous than a gun you pansies.

This totally won't go wrong, nope, not at all.

OT: Wow, that really needs to be band, and the businesses shut down. I know the government going around shutting things down is very bad for PR, but you have a company selling a weapon touting as being the most deadly of it's kind ever, without any restrictions, to anyone, anywhere (in the U.K.), for a rather small price. I'm pretty sure you can't even buy a gun for two hundred seventy dollars (rough estimate), which at least then it's registered and each gun can be traced, at least in one way or another.

Yes, that sounds great! Let's ban it, so only criminals will have them!
Wait, so we're communists now?

 

[Ulquiorra4sama]

Picture this.
*Kid opens his package from the postal office"
Yay, i finally have my own lightsaber now i can go out and do some target practice. *Walks out and sets up a target, points the laser at it and of course he'll watch as he activates the laser, then..." AHH! My eyes!! *Blind for life*

And that is still just a very mild scenario, the number of ways for this to go bad is somewhere close to infinite.

 

[CloggedDonkey]

It's less dangerous than a gun you pansies.

This totally won't go wrong, nope, not at all.

OT: Wow, that really needs to be band, and the businesses shut down. I know the government going around shutting things down is very bad for PR, but you have a company selling a weapon touting as being the most deadly of it's kind ever, without any restrictions, to anyone, anywhere (in the U.K.), for a rather small price. I'm pretty sure you can't even buy a gun for two hundred seventy dollars (rough estimate), which at least then it's registered and each gun can be traced, at least in one way or another.

Yes, that sounds great! Let's ban it, so only criminals will have them!
Wait, so we're communists now?

Yes, but criminals will have them either way. It's like countries that ban guns. Sure, only criminals have guns, but criminals will have them either way, and it probably stops a few criminals. It also means less people get hurt by them accidentally. And what's so bad about Communism? It works in small groups, like a commune (ho hey, look, the first part of Communism is the word Commune), but not in large groups (like countries).

 

[Larmo]

Part of me wonders if this is real

 

[Skullmaster123]

It's less dangerous than a gun you pansies.

This totally won't go wrong, nope, not at all.

OT: Wow, that really needs to be band, and the businesses shut down. I know the government going around shutting things down is very bad for PR, but you have a company selling a weapon touting as being the most deadly of it's kind ever, without any restrictions, to anyone, anywhere (in the U.K.), for a rather small price. I'm pretty sure you can't even buy a gun for two hundred seventy dollars (rough estimate), which at least then it's registered and each gun can be traced, at least in one way or another.

Yes, that sounds great! Let's ban it, so only criminals will have them!
Wait, so we're communists now?

Oh my fucking god......
So you're in favour of giving everyone access to dangerous items so?
Let me tell you, lots of potential crimes never happen because they were unable to obtain a weapon.
Yes only criminals will have them, do you know why?
Because they intend on doing harm with them!
It's a lot better to reduce the amount of people with the intent of doing harm that are able to get their weapon of choice!

If you ban it, the only people buying them will be the ones who want harm people with them.
In other words, banning it would only stop law-abiding starwars fans from buying them.
Besides, only pansies actually listen to what a government says.

 

[Skullmaster123]

It's less dangerous than a gun you pansies.

This totally won't go wrong, nope, not at all.

OT: Wow, that really needs to be band, and the businesses shut down. I know the government going around shutting things down is very bad for PR, but you have a company selling a weapon touting as being the most deadly of it's kind ever, without any restrictions, to anyone, anywhere (in the U.K.), for a rather small price. I'm pretty sure you can't even buy a gun for two hundred seventy dollars (rough estimate), which at least then it's registered and each gun can be traced, at least in one way or another.

Yes, that sounds great! Let's ban it, so only criminals will have them!
Wait, so we're communists now?

Yes, but criminals will have them either way. It's like countries that ban guns. Sure, only criminals have guns, but criminals will have them either way, and it probably stops a few criminals. It also means less people get hurt by them accidentally. And what's so bad about Communism? It works in small groups, like a commune (ho hey, look, the first part of Communism is the word Commune), but not in large groups (like countries).

Which is why regular citizens should be allowed to have one in case a criminal attacks them.
Besides, it only burns your skin. It's less lethal than a friggin' gun!

 

[F-I-D-O]

I like the warning in the product description:

"This class 4 beam will cause immediate and irreversable retinal damage"

"set fire to skin"

"cause cancer"

I think some kids are going to have an awesome Christmas!

Ok, I need to get some sunglasses and a crossbow. First, modify the crossbow so it will turn on the lightsaber when fired. Load the lightsaber on the crossbow, put on sunglasses, fire into a large crowd and have fun!
Or, launch it in a Christmas tree.
Best. Christmas. Ever.
On another note, who wants to take bets on how many people will be maimed/blinded before this is banned?
Or how long the company will last before being sued?
100 to 1 odds on a year
50 to 1 on a month
15 to 1 odds on a week
1 to 1 odds that I just made these odds up

 

[Skullmaster123]

It's less dangerous than a gun you pansies.

This totally won't go wrong, nope, not at all.

OT: Wow, that really needs to be band, and the businesses shut down. I know the government going around shutting things down is very bad for PR, but you have a company selling a weapon touting as being the most deadly of it's kind ever, without any restrictions, to anyone, anywhere (in the U.K.), for a rather small price. I'm pretty sure you can't even buy a gun for two hundred seventy dollars (rough estimate), which at least then it's registered and each gun can be traced, at least in one way or another.

Yes, that sounds great! Let's ban it, so only criminals will have them!
Wait, so we're communists now?

Oh my fucking god......
So you're in favour of giving everyone access to dangerous items so?
Let me tell you, lots of potential crimes never happen because they were unable to obtain a weapon.
Yes only criminals will have them, do you know why?
Because they intend on doing harm with them!
It's a lot better to reduce the amount of people with the intent of doing harm that are able to get their weapon of choice!

If you ban it, the only people buying them will be the ones who want harm people with them.
In other words, banning it would only stop law-abiding starwars fans from buying them.
Besides, only pansies actually listen to what a government says.

This guy basically sums up my arguement against you.
Fuck off to somalia so if you hate government, see how long you last with everyone being able to do whatever the fuck they want.
The sooner you leave the land of lolipops and run into reality you'll realise that laws are their for your protection and for your own well being!

Yes, but criminals will have them either way. It's like countries that ban guns. Sure, only criminals have guns, but criminals will have them either way, and it probably stops a few criminals. It also means less people get hurt by them accidentally. And what's so bad about Communism? It works in small groups, like a commune (ho hey, look, the first part of Communism is the word Commune), but not in large groups (like countries).

Laws do not prevent crimes or protect people, this is proven by the fact that criminals exist.

 

[Double A]

That needs to be made illegal.
No civilian should have access to weapons!

pansy

just to clarify, why do you trust the government to the extent that you would gladly allow them monopoly on weapons? an armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject.

Just so you know you need to quote my post, not yours.

The state is far more trust-worthy then a random person I feel.
I am loyal to and trust the state, the state works for the benefit of the country.
The individual nearly all the time works for their own benefit.

Trust me, if the state collapsed and your country turned into an anarchist country I can gaurantee you that all the people with guns wont be as friendly as they are now.

Sorry bud, but I gotta side with Locke here. What if the government is extremely corrupt?

No wait, let me start again.

What if the corrupt government bans guns, and later, or if they already have, make the system one-party and enforce their rule with the military by giving all of the soldiers benefits such as increased pay and not having to work in the slave factories? Unlikely, I'll admit, but better safe than sorry.

Wanting to be authoritarian is not corruption.
The slave factory thing though....it depends how and why it's done and how the slaves are picked.

Communists were corrupt, and they were authoritarian. And still are.
And the slave factories are just an example.

Wait, do you actually want an authoritarian government?

I support Fascism so...yes I do.

That needs to be made illegal.
Civilians should not have access to weapons!

You can take away my right to protect my property, family, and free speech out of my cold, dead hands.

Oh I would gladly do that, don't you worry.

Then you take pleasure in the act of ending someone's life? I have seeing trouble how this makes you much better than people who want guns in order to protect themselves and their ways of life.

You misunderstand.
I'm just like you, I'm willing to fight for my ideal society.

That needs to be made illegal.
All civilians should have access to weapons!

Changed that for you. Much better.
You can take away my right to protect my property, family, and free speech out of my cold, dead hands.

Really think if the government wanted you dead a shotgun would make any difference? And why do people always use that additive last time I checked a gun is not speech, if they start banning or editing your litterature or tapping your phonecalls sure *cough texas schoolboard republicans cough*

A shotgun would certainly make a difference once the rest of the citizenship starts to rise up and every possible gun would be needed. Demented Teddy is talking about an Authoritarian system of government, essentially a dictatorship. The populace will not permit such a government to be formed willingly, which means that secret police and censorship will be instated in order to control them.

Here's the thing though, the armed forces > Untrained civilians with weapons.

You can tell that to the Founding Fathers and the Colonial Militia.

We're living proof, that if you're determined enough, you can overthrow an unjust government. Or one that pisses 2/3 of the populace off.

Furthermore, I am extremely against Fascism and Authoritarianism. Republics aren't perfect, but the people get SOME say, which is better than none at all.

 

[mattttherman3]

As a security guard, this would be awesome, just blind the bad guy

 

[Angryman101]

snip

We're nothing alike, though. I fight for me and mine, I could care less about society and government, except when it starts infringing upon my personal freedoms. Then it's time to revolt.
I'm unsure if you're mocking me when you say that I understand where you're coming from. Untrained populaces have a tendency to be an incredibly destructive force, especially in modern times when governments can be demonized world-wide for the deaths of civilians. Once an organized revolt is formed, enemies of the country can openly aggrieve the state in the name of the revolutionaries due to the unfavorable policies of the demonized government. People the world over will support the destruction of this government, and more and more power and funding will pour into the revolution. It would have a fair chance of working with the proper support of both the foreign state's/states' coffers and military training and the inevitable defectors coming from the authoritarian government's army.

Yes, the internet and world wide media is a powerful tool of the bleeding hearts isn't it?
There are many around those problems that you listed.
Removing key opponents to the state silently for one.
I can't think of a way to properly word the other ways at the moment.

Also see the problem with people like you?
You don't care about humanity, you don't care about the good of your nation, you don't care about society!
All you care about is yourself and it sickens me.

I care about my freedom, and the freedom of others. Why should I lay down and let someone else control my life? For peace? For a better society? Fuck that. Peace and stability is not worth giving up your personal freedoms. I don't care about the state, and I don't care about society, but, as previously stated, I care about other people. Possibly getting them killed is far and away the better option to letting them become permanent indentured servants to the government.
I realize there are a lot of holes to that theory, but I'm generalizing to the extreme. There are a number of ways to take down the government. That's only one of them.

 

[F-I-D-O]

snip

If it is more powerful then the Sun on human skin, it will burn through the skin. It blinds people, and causes skin cancer. But no, it's ok, it won't kill someone like a gun! Do a google image search on third degree burns. Yeah, it only burns. It's perfectly normal. While my other post was humorous, these should be banned and destroyed.
Burns can still kill.
If they are destroyed, voila, we don't need them for defense.
Now, imagine someone having one in a pocket for defense. It accidentally goes off in a crowded place. Everyone there is blind, the person's leg is probably gone or seriously burnt, they now have skin cancer.
Or a can of pepper spray, which doesn't affect anyone so seriously.
Plus, if a criminal gets it, he'll probably activate it in his home and get a Darwin award. No threat, unless he becomes an evil daredevil.
Normal human may hang it on their house or put it on their desk. Accidentally goes off and their blind. These shouldn't exist or be up for sale. Not now, and not in the future.

Anyone read the Dune prequels (Butlerian Jihad, Machine Crusade, Battle for Corrin)? Remember what happened when the laser hit the shield in the crowded city?

 

[Double A]

That needs to be made illegal.
No civilian should have access to weapons!

pansy

just to clarify, why do you trust the government to the extent that you would gladly allow them monopoly on weapons? an armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject.

Just so you know you need to quote my post, not yours.

The state is far more trust-worthy then a random person I feel.
I am loyal to and trust the state, the state works for the benefit of the country.
The individual nearly all the time works for their own benefit.

Trust me, if the state collapsed and your country turned into an anarchist country I can gaurantee you that all the people with guns wont be as friendly as they are now.

Sorry bud, but I gotta side with Locke here. What if the government is extremely corrupt?

No wait, let me start again.

What if the corrupt government bans guns, and later, or if they already have, make the system one-party and enforce their rule with the military by giving all of the soldiers benefits such as increased pay and not having to work in the slave factories? Unlikely, I'll admit, but better safe than sorry.

Wanting to be authoritarian is not corruption.
The slave factory thing though....it depends how and why it's done and how the slaves are picked.

Communists were corrupt, and they were authoritarian. And still are.
And the slave factories are just an example.

Wait, do you actually want an authoritarian government?

I support Fascism so...yes I do.

That needs to be made illegal.
Civilians should not have access to weapons!

You can take away my right to protect my property, family, and free speech out of my cold, dead hands.

Oh I would gladly do that, don't you worry.

Then you take pleasure in the act of ending someone's life? I have seeing trouble how this makes you much better than people who want guns in order to protect themselves and their ways of life.

You misunderstand.
I'm just like you, I'm willing to fight for my ideal society.

That needs to be made illegal.
All civilians should have access to weapons!

Changed that for you. Much better.
You can take away my right to protect my property, family, and free speech out of my cold, dead hands.

Really think if the government wanted you dead a shotgun would make any difference? And why do people always use that additive last time I checked a gun is not speech, if they start banning or editing your litterature or tapping your phonecalls sure *cough texas schoolboard republicans cough*

A shotgun would certainly make a difference once the rest of the citizenship starts to rise up and every possible gun would be needed. Demented Teddy is talking about an Authoritarian system of government, essentially a dictatorship. The populace will not permit such a government to be formed willingly, which means that secret police and censorship will be instated in order to control them.

Here's the thing though, the armed forces > Untrained civilians with weapons.

You can tell that to the Founding Fathers and the Colonial Militia.

Yeah because in modern times the state does not have access to tanks, fighter jets, battle ships, sattellites etc.
/sarcasm.

I added more.

That's a fair point though, but who makes up the army? The people you're attacking with them. Their friends and family who are opposed to the government, who they are supposed to kill. And that turned out REAAAAAL well for Tzar Nicholas II.

 

[Jzolr0708]

Wow, this better be a June-Fools joke, because this is ridiculously dangerous. People cut themselves with kitchen knives, and they're making a deadly laser that can instantly blind people, causes cancer, and cuts through limbs available to the general public for a meager price like that?

 

[F-I-D-O]

As a security guard, this would be awesome, just blind the bad guy

And yourself....
These don't work as self defense.
I'd rather strap a can of raid/pepper spray to a baton with a longer trigger.
More fun, less innocents get hurt by effects.