Real lightsaber hits UK stores

[lacktheknack]

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WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY THINKING?!?

Nice knowing you, UK...

 

[F-I-D-O]

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WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY THINKING?!?

Nice knowing you, UK...

Have to admit, a pretty badass/geeky way for a country to be destroyed.
Hey everyone, we have a new Atlantis! Except this one BURST INTO FIERY FLAMES OF DEATH then sunk.

 

[Angryman101]

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We're nothing alike, though. I fight for me and mine, I could care less about society and government, except when it starts infringing upon my personal freedoms. Then it's time to revolt.
I'm unsure if you're mocking me when you say that I understand where you're coming from. Untrained populaces have a tendency to be an incredibly destructive force, especially in modern times when governments can be demonized world-wide for the deaths of civilians. Once an organized revolt is formed, enemies of the country can openly aggrieve the state in the name of the revolutionaries due to the unfavorable policies of the demonized government. People the world over will support the destruction of this government, and more and more power and funding will pour into the revolution. It would have a fair chance of working with the proper support of both the foreign state's/states' coffers and military training and the inevitable defectors coming from the authoritarian government's army.

Yes, the internet and world wide media is a powerful tool of the bleeding hearts isn't it?
There are many around those problems that you listed.
Removing key opponents to the state silently for one.
I can't think of a way to properly word the other ways at the moment.

Also see the problem with people like you?
You don't care about humanity, you don't care about the good of your nation, you don't care about society!
All you care about is yourself and it sickens me.

I care about my freedom, and the freedom of others. Why should I lay down and let someone else control my life? For peace? For a better society? Fuck that. Peace and stability is not worth giving up your personal freedoms. I don't care about the state, and I don't care about society, but, as previously stated, I care about other people. Possibly getting them killed is far and away the better option to letting them become permanent indentured servants to the government.
I realize there are a lot of holes to that theory, but I'm generalizing to the extreme. There are a number of ways to take down the government. That's only one of them.

Yeah, I'm sure democratic governments don't indoctranate their populations at all.
I mean those freedom songs, democratic posters you find in schools, glorification of democracy and all that stuff has not influenced your opinion of things at all......

Hmph.

A population should be one.
The state is their for it's citizens, it's citizens should be there for the state.
They both aid eachother.
A nation under control will have no scumbags going around beating the shit out of people for petty reasons, there will be no hate groups like the KKK or The Westborugh Baptist Church, organised crime could be attacked directly instead of all that "by the book" bullshit, corporations can be made to work according to the states directive, we will be able to advance far more effectively.

A nation under control is what is best.

I never said my state was the best. I'm not naive enough to seriously follow the propaganda and nationalism that is constantly being promoted. There is so much that can be improved upon-but I am at least allowed to say what I want, do what I want (as long as it doesn't harm others), and live the life that I want to lead. At least my fate isn't dictated by officials that took power without my consent nor my backing.
Do you honestly think that that hatred will disappear? It can't, and it won't; because of the pratfalls of modern society, the dissatisfaction of the populace with their lives and their resentment of the world around them will always need to be directed at something. If the state does not direct it at a particular people or ideal, the anger and resentment will be directed at the state itself. A smart Authoritative state will direct this anger towards either an ethnic group or a political ideal: see the Nazis and the Jews, the Taliban and the Hazara/Shia, and the U.S. Government and Communists back in the fifties.
With few people in power, there is no way to regulate their actions. They will eventually succumb to greed or paranoia; history has shown this to be true again and again. They will abuse their powers. The citizens will not just sit back and let this happen. Civil war is inevitable, unless you intend to turn people into mindless automatons, as North Korea has done.

 

[automatron]

Why the hell are these being sold?
I mean, seriously... why?

 

[Reolus]

Sigh, time to add "cancer, blindness and severe burns" to the list of 'ways stupid people can harm you'.

 

[Double A]

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Soviet Russia was corrupt.
Communism, pure communism is not.
Everyone is equal, everyone has the same opportunities, and the government, which eventually fades away with no impact on the populace is the guide to the Utopia.
It is a great thing that would be amazing if executed PROPERLY! Human greed has gotten in the way, as have governments that don't want to disappear. Soviet communism is bad, pure communism is good. Every attempt, however, has been instigated by corrupt people, and collapses because the fake beliefs can not hold the reality.
Communism is a good system if it is executed properly, sadly, this will likely never happen due to human nature and humans wanting more than another.

You want to get for what you work for, this is only natural. If you are paid the same for being a doctor as you would for being a farmer or a pencil pusher, obviously you are not going to work as hard. This is not greed, this is wanting fairness. I agree that Marxism in its true form in a society would be perfect, but perfection is not possible.

If we were taught that it would be for the good of society (which it would be), over time we wouldn't care. Humans are like dogs-teach something to us for long enough and we will obey. But, problems arise, and as you said, perfection is not possible.
Is it bad then when I hear Marxism I think of those sniper games in arcades?

Yeah, it's good on paper, but so was the Virtual Boy.

And no

 

[lacktheknack]

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WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY THINKING?!?

Nice knowing you, UK...

Have to admit, a pretty badass/geeky way for a country to be destroyed.
Hey everyone, we have a new Atlantis! Except this one BURST INTO FIERY FLAMES OF DEATH then sunk.

I hope the UK sinks before they release the laser to the rest of the world.

 

[Earthbound]

Yeah, I'm sure democratic governments don't indoctranate their populations at all.
I mean those freedom songs, democratic posters you find in schools, glorification of democracy and all that stuff has not influenced your opinion of things at all......

Hmph.

A population should be one.
The state is their for it's citizens, it's citizens should be there for the state.
They both aid eachother.
A nation under control will have no scumbags going around beating the shit out of people for petty reasons, there will be no hate groups like the KKK or The Westborugh Baptist Church, organised crime could be attacked directly instead of all that "by the book" bullshit, corporations can be made to work according to the states directive, we will be able to advance far more effectively.

A nation under control is what is best.

You glorify a world of stagnation and stability versus a world of instability and change. Personally, I prefer the latter. The merits of your world are obvious: no crime, no danger, and no change. The merits of mine are subtle: change and betterment through chaos. Not pure chaos, mind you, but the creative chaos that comes from the ability to act and think how you want. In return for that, safety would not be complete. There will be danger; there will be criminals. Telling people how to live their lives results in organized lives, but not creative or unique ones. Your world is safer, but mine is more exciting.

 

[The_Healer]

Holy shit.

I want one.

I'm sure I will end up going to jail by accidentally burning out someone's eyes, but I don't care.

 

[51gunner]

Oh. My. God.

... this thing is terrible. Permanent and irreparable eye damage places it firmly in the 'weapon' category to the reasonable (as well as cancer-causing), but I'm guessing a lot of government regulatory bodies will have a hard time pinning something this unconventional down due to wording of laws and the like.

I'm betting a company slippery enough to make and start marketing this can put a hold on a ban long enough to get a LOT of units out there.

I'm sure there's restrictions on lasers, particularly given that there's an official classification (Class 4), but I'm betting those regulations are not as heavily scrutinized as weapons regulations, due to a lack of demand.

This could get ugly.

 

[F-I-D-O]

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You disproved your own statement. Apparently they sat back in North Korea. Oh, and people seem to be pretty happy in China too, plenty of jobs, cheap food, and, as John Funk stated in one of his articles, cheap video games.
People abuse their power. As I said in a previous post, communism is a great system. People driving it are often not.
In pure communism, eventually there is no government. There is only equality among the people. Yeah, it won't work until humanity evolves beyond selfish desires.
Hatred may exist in modern society, but it could disappear in a future society.
Do you vote? Did someone you didn't elect get into office?
If you answered no or yes respectfully, congratulations, officials made it without your backing! Your life, in any country is governed by the government. The government decides your rights, what you can own, what you can eat, wear, what you can do, who you can marry, etc. etc. Some governments may be more involved or less involved but they STILL HAVE CONTROL! You are naive assuming you have control in your own life. Yes you can decide what to eat tonight. Did you decide what made it to the store, what options you were presented with? The government trade laws dictated that.
I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am not overly paranoid. But assuming you have absolute control in your life is wrong. If you live in a society, a government exists. Even anarchy is a system of government.

 

[spacepope22]

Lots of people will think they're really cool, until a kid sets his friend on fire. These things need to banned on the open market, because someone is going to die.

 

[Earthbound]

Yeah, I'm sure democratic governments don't indoctranate their populations at all.
I mean those freedom songs, democratic posters you find in schools, glorification of democracy and all that stuff has not influenced your opinion of things at all......

Hmph.

A population should be one.
The state is their for it's citizens, it's citizens should be there for the state.
They both aid eachother.
A nation under control will have no scumbags going around beating the shit out of people for petty reasons, there will be no hate groups like the KKK or The Westborugh Baptist Church, organised crime could be attacked directly instead of all that "by the book" bullshit, corporations can be made to work according to the states directive, we will be able to advance far more effectively.

A nation under control is what is best.

You glorify a world of stagnation and stability versus a world of instability and change. Personally, I prefer the latter. The merits of your world are obvious: no crime, no danger, and no change. The merits of mine are subtle: change and betterment through chaos. Not pure chaos, mind you, but the creative chaos that comes from the ability to act and think how you want. In return for that, safety would not be complete. There will be danger; there will be criminals. Telling people how to live their lives results in organized lives, but not creative or unique ones. Your world is safer, but mine is more exciting.

Organisation is more effective then chaos.
With industry, corporations and the like under state control, change will be far more positive then the change in your ideal world.
It's not just change, it's change we want.

Is it worth giving up the identity of the individual? Is efficiency worth the loss of humanity? People should possess the ability to make choices, even if those choices are wrong. A society of robots may live on the ideas of the collective good, but humans are individuals, people, with their own ideas and ambitions. Perfect organization destroys that, even it is more effective economically.

 

[Souplex]

For $200 it better.

That needs to be made illegal.
No civilian should have access to weapons!

Fascist!

 

[Enigma6667]

I never thought I'd say this, but now I can safely say that No More Heroes is correct. You really can get a store-brand lightsaber.

 

[halfeclipse]

Here's the thing though, the armed forces > Untrained civilians with weapons.

Active members of the Irish military forces: ~10000 (Ten Thousand)
Population of Ireland: ~4500000 (Four Million, Five Hundred Thousand)
Ratio: 450:1

Let me know how well that works out will yea.